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scott1953

Hello Khryzthinne, I recall you reminding us to stay on the topic of Current Conditions in the Philippines. I  was curious why then did you post a video of the harsh, and brutal  treatment of the native American Indians by my ancestors? Why dont we just go back to the day of the free roaming dinosaurs and cave man? Humans have been fighting, dying , building walls, guarding borders well before the days when Christ walked the earth. The result has been countless deaths and suffering through the ages. Now back to the subject. Personally,   i am enjoying my stay in your country and have had no one here disrespect me or say an unkind word to me. I have always chosen to visit developing 3rd world countries. It just makes me appreciate my life so much more when i see all the poverty and struggle to survive. I wish the best of your new President and his desire to make a friend, not an enemy with  your neighbor China. No country  in the world with an ounce of sense wants to see another world war. It will not be fought with conventional warfare with all the thousands of nuclear war heads pointed in every direction. One last point. I will defend my country anytime i see a remark i dont think is fair and will reply respectfully with my honest rebuttal.
Nice script........khryzthinne Yesterday 12:09:09 Report

https://www.facebook.com/nativeamerican … 596395921/

khryzthinne

Sorry about that, Sir. Even if I have it removed, you already quoted it. Before I stated about sticking to the title, I have posted that one. You see, you all have been posting the same thing as what the video implies, negative. But that is not what we all want. We wanted a positive kind of living, a positive outlook, a peaceful one.

Again, sticking to what the title states, whether it's positive or negative, we're all free to express what we are truly experiencing in the country now. May we achieve that goals in life!

khryzthinne

And one more thing, I am a native of this country so I know very well my country better than anyone else. How I wish everyone do the same thing. We admit to our mistakes because we are humans and we are not that proud but we have the right to earn a place in this planet and we have the right to be respected. People of different races have been looking down on us and others especially those who became colonial masters in the past. We cannot argue anymore, we can only be thankful. But again, if we truly wanted what is good for everyone not just one, make sure it's sincere and for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqASXGI_9j0

scott1953

Hello Khryzthinne, It was nice to hear back from you and hear you explain your reasoning in an educated , civil manner.When you state "you all have been posting negative remarks" interests me. If you could be  more specific as to who "you all" are  or see where i make a negative post about your country please bring it to my attention so i can review it and correct it if it is not a true fact. I think we both agree that it is a luxury and privilege to reside in free democratic countries like the USA and Philippines where we can have civil open discussions, freedom of speech, free press with out worry  of arrest, jail or even worse death in some government prison.

scott1953

Hello Khryzthinne, Just wanted to say i enjoyed with laughter the  video  you posted here about the water buffalo and the gator. It say a lot about human nature in 1 minute. Also from what i read of your post ,you have a lot of pride, and defend  your country as  strongly as i  do  mine in a constructive educated manner.Out of respect to any of the many countries i visit, i take the time to read as much history from a variety of sources  as i can. I can see that the Philippines is a bit defensive after being invaded from Spain, America, and Japan. As for your remark of feeling looked down upon by other   races or countries can only happen if you allow it be the norm. Your country has so much potential and resilient citizens that   hopefully by the end of his term ,Presedent Duerte will have your country looking more like Singapore.

khryzthinne

Hello, scott1953. Thank you, Sir. I am sorry that I have been offensive somehow. Indeed, we are not against the Americans nor anyone. What's happening in our country about the so-called EJK are mostly manipulated by the biased media. Some individuals are carrying their own crusades to show and prove there's something good happening in the country now. Those things in the past, may still be important but not as important as what we have in the present. We are not just hoping and holding to these changes in this country, we are also struggling to change for the better. For now, what we're seeing in the news mostly are malicious and instigating any parties involved which could lead to something dreadful.

"Whoever controls the media, controls the mind" as stated by American Jim Morrison but when it comes to media, "Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see" as also stated by another great American.

FilAmericanMom

TheDigitalMage wrote:

Is this a country currently feeling anti-american?  Will I be safe?  I'm 67 and a bad leg...


My husband and I moved here back in 2008. Back in America in 2006 just before my son was born, I got laid off. And by the time it was 2008, the prospect of getting employed was becoming less and less likely. With the onslaught of a recession, foreclosures were becoming more and more common. We were not affected by foreclosures because we didn't have a house. We were renters, and if we stayed there, we would probably be renters for life. So we moved here.

We both work here. Honestly, we don't feel that the Philippines or its current government is anti-American. Have our taxes been raised just because we're Americans? Has the government announced that my husband's full retirement age will be extended? With the new administration, have we been recently put under constant surveillance? Has the government decided to shorten my husband's visa expiration, or put him under strict scrutiny with the possibility of being deported and separated from his family? The answer to all that is no.

After Duterte took office, did we feel less safe? No. Did we feel safer? No. Was there a time when we felt safer? Yes, right after we moved two years ago from my parents' house, which was on a narrower and more busy street, to a subdivision with better security, wider roads and just our neighbors' vehicles passing by. 

My husband said that he is happier at his work here compared to his work back home. He feels more appreciated and wanted. And his co-workers have been very nice and appreciative that their stats improved due to coaching from him.

My uncle's wife, who is a naturalized American, is currently in the Philippines for a short visit. She said that before coming here, she had second thoughts as her co-workers dissuaded her from making the trip because of what they hear in the media in America. Around 4 days before her flight, she said, "What the heck! I already paid for the ticket." When she got here, she said, "What were they talking about in America?" She is enjoying her stay, visiting childhood friends and family in Pangasinan, eating out (or more like treated out) at an excellent dimsum place in Quezon City with family members of her friends in America, and was impressed with what my husband and I accomplished here.

I personally feel that if there is any place that would be anti-American, it's America. For one, what's up with the trillions in bailouts, part of which paid for bonuses of top executives of failed businesses for which the average taxpayer is paying? There are just so many things going wrong in America. I'm not going to enumerate the rest of my misgivings and questions in this forum because big brother is . . . doing what it's intended to do. 

With all the arguments in this thread, I say, before you hurl mud at someone, look first at your own flaws, your own stench, as an individual. What applies to you may not apply to everyone to the group to which you belong.

Just my personal experience and two cents.

TheDigitalMage

khryzthinne wrote:

And one more thing, I am a native of this country so I know very well my country better than anyone else. How I wish everyone do the same thing. We admit to our mistakes because we are humans and we are not that proud but we have the right to earn a place in this planet and we have the right to be respected. People of different races have been looking down on us and others especially those who became colonial masters in the past. We cannot argue anymore, we can only be thankful. But again, if we truly wanted what is good for everyone not just one, make sure it's sincere and for real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqASXGI_9j0


I hope I have not done any of that...

I would love to come there and get to know the people. 

Sadly, that is not going to happen.

It would be a good thing if your new president read this thread :)

pej1111

Hope that we can keep this topic on point.  Let's try and state facts and real life experience.  Don't judge others.  and only reply to someone if you can add benefit to the post.

lukas83

Best advice I seen on this site.

TeeJay4103

FilAmericanMom wrote:
TheDigitalMage wrote:

Is this a country currently feeling anti-american?  Will I be safe?  I'm 67 and a bad leg...


My husband and I moved here back in 2008. Back in America in 2006 just before my son was born, I got laid off. And by the time it was 2008, the prospect of getting employed was becoming less and less likely. With the onslaught of a recession, foreclosures were becoming more and more common. We were not affected by foreclosures because we didn't have a house. We were renters, and if we stayed there, we would probably be renters for life. So we moved here.

We both work here. Honestly, we don't feel that the Philippines or its current government is anti-American. Have our taxes been raised just because we're Americans? Has the government announced that my husband's full retirement age will be extended? With the new administration, have we been recently put under constant surveillance? Has the government decided to shorten my husband's visa expiration, or put him under strict scrutiny with the possibility of being deported and separated from his family? The answer to all that is no.

After Duterte took office, did we feel less safe? No. Did we feel safer? No. Was there a time when we felt safer? Yes, right after we moved two years ago from my parents' house, which was on a narrower and more busy street, to a subdivision with better security, wider roads and just our neighbors' vehicles passing by. 

My husband said that he is happier at his work here compared to his work back home. He feels more appreciated and wanted. And his co-workers have been very nice and appreciative that their stats improved due to coaching from him.

My uncle's wife, who is a naturalized American, is currently in the Philippines for a short visit. She said that before coming here, she had second thoughts as her co-workers dissuaded her from making the trip because of what they hear in the media in America. Around 4 days before her flight, she said, "What the heck! I already paid for the ticket." When she got here, she said, "What were they talking about in America?" She is enjoying her stay, visiting childhood friends and family in Pangasinan, eating out (or more like treated out) at an excellent dimsum place in Quezon City with family members of her friends in America, and was impressed with what my husband and I accomplished here.

I personally feel that if there is any place that would be anti-American, it's America. For one, what's up with the trillions in bailouts, part of which paid for bonuses of top executives of failed businesses for which the average taxpayer is paying? There are just so many things going wrong in America. I'm not going to enumerate the rest of my misgivings and questions in this forum because big brother is . . . doing what it's intended to do. 

With all the arguments in this thread, I say, before you hurl mud at someone, look first at your own flaws, your own stench, as an individual. What applies to you may not apply to everyone to the group to which you belong.

Just my personal experience and two cents.


We said and Thank you.

pej1111

Latest advice, 4 November 2016
On 3 November, the US Government warned that terrorists are planning to conduct kidnappings in areas frequented by foreigners on the southern part of Cebu Island, specifically the areas around Dalaguete and Santander (including Sumilon Island). The level of advice has not changed. We continue to advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in the Philippines overall. Higher levels apply in some parts of the country.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/a … pines.aspx

scott1953

Hello Khryzthinne, Your most welcome. No need to be sorry for sharing your opinions in a constructive manor. The media no longer has the power to influence as much as they use to with so many different sites now and the power of the internet. But your correct, there is media bias in my country as well.

kaoru16

TheDigitalMage wrote:

I've been considering a trip BUT the Philippine president does not seem to be overly friendly toward Americans.  I have to wonder...

Is this a country currently feeling anti-american?  Will I be safe?  I'm 67 and a bad leg...

I was thinking about going there to look for a wife.


First, don't get discouraged by what you read in the media, specially local media, it is not accurate and completely paints a different picture for the Philippines. I am a Filipino who lives in the Philippines so I know the real situation. Philippines is now safer thanks to the new president, police starts doing their job, rules are now being enforced, and there is now lesser chance you'd get robbed or killed in the street. By lesser, I meant compared to previous administration, bad things can still happen just practice caution. The best advice I can give if you feel anxious about our president DON'T BRING OR GET ASSOCIATED WITH DRUGS.
About the PresidentDuterte issue with Americans, I just think he is trying to play this tug of war games with economic giants (china and russia) just to get the most benefit for our country. He's a tough guy with high hopes and good intentions for the country despite his foul mouth and lunatic demeanor most of the times. Yes, not the typical politician.
You will be safe, filipinos are very hospitable to foreigners. Just don't get scammed, filipinos are generally kind. But sometimes due to extreme poverty, some would take advantage of an overly trusting american.
You may find a wife who can care for you, or you can meet a lot of girls, young girls even who are attracted to the american dream. Her family may even encourage the relationship as they would see you as someone who can help them get out of poverty. This sounds negative, but that's the reality of it. Bottomline is don't trust too much, there will be some who are after the money but there are also genuine ladies who would care for you.

TheDigitalMage

kaoru16 wrote:
TheDigitalMage wrote:

I've been considering a trip BUT the Philippine president does not seem to be overly friendly toward Americans.  I have to wonder...

Is this a country currently feeling anti-american?  Will I be safe?  I'm 67 and a bad leg...

I was thinking about going there to look for a wife.


First, don't get discouraged by what you read in the media, specially local media, it is not accurate and completely paints a different picture for the Philippines. I am a Filipino who lives in the Philippines so I know the real situation. Philippines is now safer thanks to the new president, police starts doing their job, rules are now being enforced, and there is now lesser chance you'd get robbed or killed in the street. By lesser, I meant compared to previous administration, bad things can still happen just practice caution. The best advice I can give if you feel anxious about our president DON'T BRING OR GET ASSOCIATED WITH DRUGS.
About the PresidentDuterte issue with Americans, I just think he is trying to play this tug of war games with economic giants (china and russia) just to get the most benefit for our country. He's a tough guy with high hopes and good intentions for the country despite his foul mouth and lunatic demeanor most of the times. Yes, not the typical politician.
You will be safe, filipinos are very hospitable to foreigners. Just don't get scammed, filipinos are generally kind. But sometimes due to extreme poverty, some would take advantage of an overly trusting american.
You may find a wife who can care for you, or you can meet a lot of girls, young girls even who are attracted to the american dream. Her family may even encourage the relationship as they would see you as someone who can help them get out of poverty. This sounds negative, but that's the reality of it. Bottomline is don't trust too much, there will be some who are after the money but there are also genuine ladies who would care for you.


Thank you, Keru16, for this reply.

First, please allow me to comment on your excellent use of the English Language!  There were only a couple of places that identified you as a person whose first language in not English.  Is this the level of English I can expect in the Philippines?  I don't expect anything neat it...

Here is a link to an interesting story:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippine-m … 01887.html

Conceptual continuity is at issue.  i.e. the background; the setting, if you will, in which a person's life has taken place, so far.  I am sure you understand that my life, here, has produced a (very) different set of expectations - a different "reality" - than the one in which you live, and vice-versa.

Now let me tell you, as gently and politely as I am able, that the events in the story (link) above are about as foreign to my concept of reality as they possibly could be, unless maybe they took place on another planet!  That is how shocking and downright scary that story is to me and, no doubt, to all that live here.

Even granting that nothing is the same there (and that certainly must be the case!) I know you people have tear gas.  Just toss a couple in there, and wait. 

Being familiar with firearms and the danger of the misuse of same I can just imagine the situation in that jail - rounds hitting steel bars and fragmenting - going off in all directions - and shredding everyone in that small, confined area!  What are the odds of hitting someone in the head, in that situation?  (Remember - they're returning fire and you're both in a cell block).

No person with fifteen minutes of firearms training would engage in a gunfight in an area that was enclosed, and populated with vertical steel bars!  And, since the "criminals" were locked up, the decision to have a gun battle must have been made by the authorities.  So the authorities there come off looking like cowboys, from some wild west movie?

Ah, reasoning - I often times wonder if you are my servant, or it is the other way around.

Do you believe this story?  If not, what really happened?

Don't get me wrong.  It's YOUR country and if you're enjoying the way things are, more power to you!  Dead serious. 

I will, however, judge you.  I will judge you in terms of do I want to go there and would I feel safe, after I get there.  And yes, I am aware that you do not need me to be there, individually, at least...

You say you believe Mr. Duarte is acting in the best interests of your country.  The cursory examination of current events given to you by someone from half-way around the world may give you more information, and cause you to rethink your conclusion, especially in the light of the dollars tourism brings to your country.

Maturity.  Wisdom.  Statesmanship.  Intelligence.  Self-control.  SOPHISTICATION. These are some of the qualities that are absolutely necessary in a leader of a nation.  If machismo is of any use I have yet to realize it.

In my country we have an old saying about a bull, loose in a china shop (a store that sells dishes).  What he can't break, he defecates on.

pej1111

TheDigitalMage wrote:
kaoru16 wrote:
TheDigitalMage wrote:

I've been considering a trip BUT the Philippine president does not seem to be overly friendly toward Americans.  I have to wonder...

Is this a country currently feeling anti-american?  Will I be safe?  I'm 67 and a bad leg...

I was thinking about going there to look for a wife.


First, don't get discouraged by what you read in the media, specially local media, it is not accurate and completely paints a different picture for the Philippines. I am a Filipino who lives in the Philippines so I know the real situation. Philippines is now safer thanks to the new president, police starts doing their job, rules are now being enforced, and there is now lesser chance you'd get robbed or killed in the street. By lesser, I meant compared to previous administration, bad things can still happen just practice caution. The best advice I can give if you feel anxious about our president DON'T BRING OR GET ASSOCIATED WITH DRUGS.
About the PresidentDuterte issue with Americans, I just think he is trying to play this tug of war games with economic giants (china and russia) just to get the most benefit for our country. He's a tough guy with high hopes and good intentions for the country despite his foul mouth and lunatic demeanor most of the times. Yes, not the typical politician.
You will be safe, filipinos are very hospitable to foreigners. Just don't get scammed, filipinos are generally kind. But sometimes due to extreme poverty, some would take advantage of an overly trusting american.
You may find a wife who can care for you, or you can meet a lot of girls, young girls even who are attracted to the american dream. Her family may even encourage the relationship as they would see you as someone who can help them get out of poverty. This sounds negative, but that's the reality of it. Bottomline is don't trust too much, there will be some who are after the money but there are also genuine ladies who would care for you.


Thank you, Keru16, for this reply.

First, please allow me to comment on your excellent use of the English Language!  There were only a couple of places that identified you as a person whose first language in not English.  Is this the level of English I can expect in the Philippines?  I don't expect anything neat it...

Here is a link to an interesting story:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippine-m … 01887.html

Conceptual continuity is at issue.  i.e. the background; the setting, if you will, in which a person's life has taken place, so far.  I am sure you understand that my life, here, has produced a (very) different set of expectations - a different "reality" - than the one in which you live, and vice-versa.

Now let me tell you, as gently and politely as I am able, that the events in the story (link) above are about as foreign to my concept of reality as they possibly could be, unless maybe they took place on another planet!  That is how shocking and downright scary that story is to me and, no doubt, to all that live here.

Even granting that nothing is the same there (and that certainly must be the case!) I know you people have tear gas.  Just toss a couple in there, and wait. 

Being familiar with firearms and the danger of the misuse of same I can just imagine the situation in that jail - rounds hitting steel bars and fragmenting - going off in all directions - and shredding everyone in that small, confined area!  What are the odds of hitting someone in the head, in that situation?  (Remember - they're returning fire and you're both in a cell block).

No person with fifteen minutes of firearms training would engage in a gunfight in an area that was enclosed, and populated with vertical steel bars!  And, since the "criminals" were locked up, the decision to have a gun battle must have been made by the authorities.  So the authorities there come off looking like cowboys, from some wild west movie?

Ah, reasoning - I often times wonder if you are my servant, or it is the other way around.

Do you believe this story?  If not, what really happened?

Don't get me wrong.  It's YOUR country and if you're enjoying the way things are, more power to you!  Dead serious. 

I will, however, judge you.  I will judge you in terms of do I want to go there and would I feel safe, after I get there.  And yes, I am aware that you do not need me to be there, individually, at least...

You say you believe Mr. Duarte is acting in the best interests of your country.  The cursory examination of current events given to you by someone from half-way around the world may give you more information, and cause you to rethink your conclusion, especially in the light of the dollars tourism brings to your country.

Maturity.  Wisdom.  Statesmanship.  Intelligence.  Self-control.  SOPHISTICATION. These are some of the qualities that are absolutely necessary in a leader of a nation.  If machismo is of any use I have yet to realize it.

In my country we have an old saying about a bull, loose in a china shop (a store that sells dishes).  What he can't break, he defecates on.


Let's try and state facts  and real life experience.  Don't judge others.  and only reply to someone if you can add benefit to the post.

dandunn

I have been coming back and forth now for 5 years This is now my homebase I have noticed a difference since the new president was elected. Not how I have been treated which is exceptionally well. It seems the locals are less jubilant than in the past.  I would spend sometime on the internet (dating sites) and try to get to know a lady before traveling. Personally I would look for someone in the provinces and within 25 years of your age.(Think with your big head not your little one) As others have stated a good women will make your life a lot happier here and will always put your interest before her own. One last bit of advise. Be generous and it will be returned 10 times over. I have a small house in Dulag Leyte no one here goes hungry and all have a place to sleep My door is always open and I share my extras readily Internet, TV  and any extra food. 100 pesos is a little over $2 not a big deal to me but it can feed a family for the day, a little goodwill goes a long way and I sleep well at night :-)

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot

DU30 just said that drug dealers are now resorting to KFR so keep your head down and watch your back.

TheDigitalMage

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot wrote:

DU30 just said that drug dealers are now resorting to KFR so keep your head down and watch your back.


Yes.  The hunters (police) become the hunted.

Man, I NEED to get involved in that situation!

Thanks for your candor, WhiskyTangoFoxtrot.  I dunno what KFR is... then again, I do.  Sounds like they're turning that hapless place into a little Mexico.

Today we have the same choice, here.  If the Donald is elected...  well, I certainly will redouble my efforts to leave here!

Fred

TheDigitalMage wrote:

I dunno what KFR is..


It's either a KFC rip off or kidnap for ransom.

TheDigitalMage

Fred wrote:
TheDigitalMage wrote:

I dunno what KFR is..


It's either a KFC rip off or kidnap for ransom.


Lovely...

This gets better and better!

HEY!  Kentucky fried rattlesnake!  Should sell well in Tejas :)  I'M RICH!

THANKS FRED.

Fred

Assuming the post above is accurate and the dealers are turning to kidnap as a new source of income, it could validate Duterte's actions against drug dealers in many eyes, proving they really are the scum of the earth so there's no reason to share oxygen with them, thus killing them is perfectly acceptable.

The possibility exists, but can WTF (Rats, that's only just struck me - I'm old and slow these days) provide any links to his suggestion so we can assess the likelihood of KFR becoming an issue for expats (and locals).

As for the Donald, US internal politics can be a serious problem for American expats in many countries, and him winning is very likely to cause issues for US expats in the Philippines. That isn't especially designed to be anti Trump, more a statement of likelihood.

FilAmericanMom

TheDigitalMage wrote:

If the Donald is elected...  well, I certainly will redouble my efforts to leave here!


Haha. My mother-in-law was here in the Philippines last February. She said she'll move here if Trump becomes president.

FilAmericanMom

FilAmericanMom wrote:
TheDigitalMage wrote:

If the Donald is elected...  well, I certainly will redouble my efforts to leave here!


Haha. My mother-in-law was here in the Philippines last February. She said she'll move here if Trump becomes president.


You are not alone in thinking about leaving:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 … of-the-wo/

Fred

Trump is now president elect, meaning a lot of people are going to be very upset.
It's really down to how many of his more controversial promises he keeps, and how many people he upsets when doing it.
As far as the Philippines goes, Trump's assertion that country is a terrorist nation and his stated intent to ban US travel for citizens is less than likely to endear Americans to Duterte.
One sad thing about politicians' rants is they tend to label all their countrymen as believing the total crap they spout, even when they don't.
Trump is very likely to paint all US citizens in a very bad light, especially expats in countries Trump has insulted.

TheDigitalMage

Fred wrote:

Assuming the post above is accurate and the dealers are turning to kidnap as a new source of income, it could validate Duterte's actions against drug dealers in many eyes, proving they really are the scum of the earth so there's no reason to share oxygen with them, thus killing them is perfectly acceptable.

The possibility exists, but can WTF (Rats, that's only just struck me - I'm old and slow these days) provide any links to his suggestion so we can assess the likelihood of KFR becoming an issue for expats (and locals).

As for the Donald, US internal politics can be a serious problem for American expats in many countries, and him winning is very likely to cause issues for US expats in the Philippines. That isn't especially designed to be anti Trump, more a statement of likelihood.


This person goes around saying he supports executions without trials. 

Ah, how quickly we forget.  The Jews were the "scum of the Earth" as well...

You have not said you are American, Fred.  I assume you are.  In my mind, you are the sort of person to whom a passport should never have been granted. 

There are people like Fred here (and, I assume, everywhere).  I am ashamed to admit there are lots of them.  And they just elected Donald Trump!  Or, so it would seem.

Like Mr. Duarte and the story of the "gunfight in the jail", we need to keep our dirty laundry at home and prevent the stench coming off of it from permeating our our borders.  When you go running your mouth in Adolph Hitler mode, Fred, you embarrass all Americans.  Now I will try to correct the damage you have done.

There are concepts - things I truly believe.  Concepts for which I will stand, fight and die, like so very many before me.  Concepts, such as every man has the right to a trial before he is punished; to speak, in his own defense and to confront, his accusers. 

When ANY MAN makes statements contrary to these concepts, that man is saying he is NOT an American.

dandunn

They will get over it I am on the ground here in the PI so far they are liking what they here from OUR next President Donald Trump- they also knew Hillary was a corrupt liar

Fred

TheDigitalMage wrote:

This person goes around saying he supports executions without trials.


Who has?

TheDigitalMage wrote:

Ah, how quickly we forget.  The Jews were the "scum of the Earth" as well....


My uncle escape a labour camp, and I've attended a good few meetings on the subject, not enough to be an expert on the matter, but easily enough to know what a terrible time that was.

TheDigitalMage wrote:

You have not said you are American, Fred.  I assume you are.


Assumption is the mother of all 'mess' ups, and commonly makes the accuser look very silly.

TheDigitalMage wrote:

In my mind, you are the sort of person to whom a passport should never have been granted.


In your mind maybe, but that seems to be a though not shared by most people who know my long record of being very anti racist/bigotry and my family who are mixed race. Not that their genetics much matter because they're people first, everything else second.

TheDigitalMage wrote:

There are people like Fred here (and, I assume, everywhere).  I am ashamed to admit there are lots of them.  And they just elected Donald Trump!  Or, so it would seem..


Not when you consider I'm not an American and I can't stand the sight of the bloody idiot we know as Trump.
You assume I would vote for that moron without the slightest clue about me.
I don't normally bother stating my political opinions on this forum, but your rabid insult deserves a reply.
Here it is, "Flip off". (Sorry about the poor spelling)

TheDigitalMage wrote:

When you go running your mouth in Adolph Hitler mode, Fred, you embarrass all Americans.  Now I will try to correct the damage you have done.


See my reply above.

TheDigitalMage wrote:

that man is saying he is NOT an American.


I'm not an American, but you seem to assume I am for some strange reason.

I'm going to be gracious and assume your idiotic rant was down to alcohol and/or drugs, not stupidity.

Fred

An apology from Digital image would be accepted.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot

The anti American sediment should subside now that the US has a REAL President.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot

Haha...If HRC won I would never return to the US 😅

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot

I would call the Philippines the Mexico of Asia but I don't want to offend anybody 😇

Bhavna

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