How do I know if my Girlfriend is who she says she is.

FortuneFavorsTheBold wrote:

Well put Lotus!!!

Again,  Common scenario: Filipina with her secret Filipino boyfriend chatting up foreigners for money.

You remind me of my first experience with a Filipina in Las Vegas. I met her in a Casino and she said she was separated from her husband who also lives in Las Vegas, she & I became quite good friends, maybe a little more.

One day I saw her with him in the Casino and she indicated to me not to say anything. Another time, I was in the casino alone playing blackjack and he sits down next to me (he does not know about me). I was thinking if he only knew about his wife & me.

After some time the truth comes out, this guy is not her husband but another boyfriend, but her real husband does live in Las Vegas.

manwonder wrote:

this family oriented thingy that keeps coming up is only because they have no one else to turn

They can have if they dont scam the foreigner   

BUT we need to remember many foreigners fool Filipina women too they will marry her, without having attention to. I know many Filipinas, who are frustrated at ssuch.  So not odd if serious Filipina too have "back up plans"...

coach53 wrote:

manwonder wrote:

this family oriented thingy that keeps coming up is only because they have no one else to turn

They can have if they dont scam the foreigner   

BUT we need to remember many foreigners fool Filipina women too they will marry her, without having attention to. I know many Filipinas, who are frustrated at ssuch.  So not odd if serious Filipina too have "back up plans"...

Agree..maybe scammed by much younger playboy expats ...but I don't see much of that happening with expats >60.. sadly they are the ones who tend to let their guard down in their search for that paradise effect...only to be scammed by parasites & in turn suffer the full brunt of their carelessness....sometimes like you say the big head does leave too much of the decission making to the smaller head.

(Omo)

manwonder wrote:

...but I don't see much of that happening with expats >60.. sadly they are the ones who tend to let their guard down in their search for that paradise effect...only to be scammed by parasites & in turn suffer the full brunt of their carelessness....sometimes like you say the big head does leave too much of the decission making to the smaller head.

(Omo)

Ever hear the saying: There is no fool like an old fool.

Seniors scammed by women is only a small part of the scam problem, seniors are the good targets for all kinds of scams. There is a reason for this, it is caused by a physical change in the brain, between the age of 20 and 60 you loose about 1 1/2 oz of brain matter, younger people can regenerate these brain cells, seniors cannot.

A word to the wise in seniors, don't engage in anything that leads to the loss of brain cells.

Have you ever heard the term rattle brain? The term is close to real. Poor decisions in seniors with age happens. If our little head had all those lost brain cells, a lot of us would be better off.

I said it before, and I'll say it again.  A VERY
Common scenario here is Filipinas with their secret Filipino boyfriends chatting up foreigners for money. It doesn't matter if the foreigner is living overseas or with the Filipina here. I've seen it time and again. Poverty breeds crime, greed breeds corruption. No need to attack me for this comment. If you are one of the lucky few that found a 100% honest Filipina, great. If you are one who is blind to the reality, not so great. Love is blind.

Right on FORTUNE! I have watched you  tube videos and its crazy what goes on in this country. Girls go out and give private massages and "extra" services and their boyfriends or even their parents know about it. I dont know if I posted this in the forum before or not but I  watched a you tube video a few years ago Pinay got hooked up with a foreigner from the UK and they  got married had 2 or 3 kids together and then her and her secret boyfriend hired a hit man to do away with the unknowing guy from UK.They caught them both and they went to jail but probably both let out by now as things like this are common.Dead uk guy. Just like alcholism is quite  the norm in Korea(I lived  there 7 yrs and taught English) The recruiter who picked me up at the airport was driving on a suspended license for DUI and we drove around for hours. When someone in the younger generation say 20's and 30's in Korea are drunk  in a restaurant or pub the cops just pick them up and take them home.Urinating in the streets here in PI also common. Mostly kids do it but I have seen adults down the street from me as I am jogging outside their place selling barbecue and instead of going inside to take a leak they walk across the street and stand next to a telephone or a tree. Every culture has their own thing I guess!JIMMY

Can you post a link Jimmy? I've never seen YouTube videos about this.  Could be good for newbies. Buyer BEWARE.

capricornrising wrote:

Pinay got hooked up with a foreigner from the UK and they  got married had 2 or 3 kids together and then her and her secret boyfriend hired a hit man to do away with the unknowing guy from UK.They caught them both and they went to jail but probably both let out by now as things like this are common.

I dont know if common. At the list of around 100 murdered foreigners in I believe 7 - 10 years a big majority were Indians (I suppouse "Bombay" lloan shatks)  so not many other foreigners murdered according to that list.
But I know of two posible/sure cases:
/A Swede. Motive unclear. He was both loan shark and involved in a triangle relation.
/A Canadian. Murdered by assassins SEEN hired by wife and his BODYGUARD, who also was the wife´s lower. Wife pregnant posible wirh the lover. But according to a foreigner knowing this Canadian, the Canadian had done very bad violent crimes close to murder so no loss for the world he got murdered, but the foreigner witnessed against the murderers anyway.  Police was some slow so the wife got away to Canada and the last I heared Canada DIDNT extradite her...

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Ever hear the saying: There is no fool like an old fool.

Seniors scammed by women is only a small part of the scam problem, seniors are the good targets for all kinds of scams. There is a reason for this, it is caused by a physical change in the brain, between the age of 20 and 60 you loose about 1 1/2 oz of brain matter, younger people can regenerate these brain cells, seniors cannot. .

Well. I agree when geting so old so think slow, got problem to learn new important things and/or part dement,
BUT in old age BEFORE that we are suppoused to compensate lost cells with experiences used to wisdom...

Its important to go on exersise brain. Some very old people are still sharp.  My father was still until he died at 84, but he said himself he had became slow..Some seconds to slow to get goiod results in quiz competitions anymore     so he quit that a 2 years before he died.
The oldest woman in "my" county, 104,  was very sharp thinker still and got interviewed at her birthday.  The reporter found it funny sshe had a new boyfriend and tried to make a joke about it:
-What do your children say about this
-No meaning asking them..  They are senile.

Any Pinay gf who truly cares about you and has nothing to hide will not be upset or leave you if you tell her you wanna do a back ground check on her. SHe might have a Pinoy bf,she might even be married. If she doesnt not want you to do a background check then its time to bail. I wish I would have done a back ground check on my Pinay gf I lived with 3 years. She wasnt married(many are) but she did have a Pinoy bf on the side as she got pregnant by him 3 months before we broke up.It was easy to do the math when she showed up later with a daughter and no husband or bf. If you wanna check to see if shes married go on line and check out CENOMAR is a certificate of no marriage issued by the Phlilppines Statistics Authority. That doesnt  guarantee she doesnt have a boy friend.No way of determining that because she would never tell you. Try to get as much info out of her where she was born,info about family members, what kind of employment  they have. She might have a criminal record as well so get a BCI(Bureau of criminal investigation) done on her. Also have her ger a medical exam(you go with her) to show she doesnt have any stds.I made the big mistake of living with a Pinay 3 days after I met her although we did communicaate a few times online before that. My best advice is DONT BE IN A HURRY! If she is, then thats a big red flag.  My red flag was my PINAY gf told me 3 days after we met that she loved me. My naiveness got the best of me. I have always been a sucker for a pretty woman.Dont you be one also.Do your research to avoid pains down the line and a bundle of money lost. Contact me privately and I will give you the email of   an American friend who has had 2 or 3 Pinay gf and has lived in Philippines about 11 years.He has rules that he gives the GF and she can either accept or deny them. After about his 3rd Pinay gf hes talking about marriage.Contact me for his address capricorn_rising@yahoo.com and my name is .JIMMY

capricornrising wrote:

Any Pinay gf who truly cares about you and has nothing to hide will not be upset or leave you if you tell her you wanna do a back ground check on her. SHe might have a Pinoy bf,she might even be married. If she doesnt not want you to do a background check then its time to bail.

Well. Wouldn´t you get offended if she would do such to you...   
Its same as saying "I dont trust you", not a good start in a relation - nor never   

Liars have normaly problems answer correct, not showing sign pf lieing and hard to keep order of earlier lies to make suit to earlier lies, so I prefer to just talk much to catch the liars. I have caught many

AND move to other island away from family and posible boyfriends.
Before that listen to tsismis   =gossip     

capricornrising wrote:

If you wanna check to see if shes married go on line and check out CENOMAR is a certificate of no marriage issued by the Phlilppines Statistics Authority.

Thats very important because living with a married even legaöy separated can be a deportation reason. 
Can say "I trust you, but I dont trust officials havent messed up this too"   

capricornrising wrote:

Also have her ger a medical exam(you go with her) to show she doesnt have any stds.Y

That can get an ok "explaination" too  (except if sshe claim je havent been with anyone)

capricornrising wrote:

My red flag was my PINAY gf told me 3 days after we met that she loved me. .

Well. I dont count it as red flag, because she can have copied habbit from ssmeone else, 
but I see it as a WARNING flag and have sorted awayy some by that.

capricornrising wrote:

I have always been a sucker for a pretty woman.

I havent.  I have never got impresed by beaty as teenager neither - but by a COMBINATION of good personality and beaty.  I  dont know why I never got impressed by beaty. Perhaps depending of my mother looked as movie stars did when she was young, and one of my sisters was a in Sweden well known photo model face. But my sister got all the beaty looking parts from our parents   

I have never got impressed so instead of as many others stuther or get drunk to  dare to aproach beautiful women, I have started with saying things as:
-Why do you look so bloody grumpy...
(Many very beutiful women are lonely because they have problem to get friends, by women dont want to be compared with them, and most men arent serious - or to serioous 

My modified version of a classic worned out:
-I think you look as a move star!
-Oh no. Dont say as I look as... you too, the beaty say boored.
-No.  Donald Duck.

Im so old so this was BEFORE the FAKE beauties started looking as Donald Duck by moved butt fat to theiir liips   

capricornrising wrote:

Contact me privately and I will give you the email of   an American friend who has had 2 or 3 Pinay gf and has lived in Philippines about 11 years.He has rules that he gives the GF and she can either accept or deny them.

Well.  If you mean live in -such aproach can make he cant get the good ones from still traditional families who are still commom in provinces.  Some families still expect the man to ASK parents for permision to even get a first date...   
(I told an example of such somewhere in this forum some days ago, with a family I know a bit   - but it wasnt me the young woman scared away on purpouse by farting   
In some province families its still similar to how it was in north Europe 100 years ago...

I have some "demands" too. E g the home will not be in any city

Derek.C wrote:

I have been chatting to a Lady on Facebook for nearly 4 Years now, But the other day I had a message from someone else saying, My girlfriend is a sex worker and a gold digger, and all her family know about it, and they are only after my money, But when I tried to contact the person in Question, They disappeared. Now I am all in a mess, So do I still believe my girlfriend of 4 years or believe this other person. Is there a way I can find out who is telling the truth before I emigrate this year. Any help would be much appreciated. My girlfriend lives in Balabac. St. Pinagkaisahan Makati City

Since there were so may replies and advice, I contacted my friend Detective Lt. Colombo and he solved the case.

Detective Colombo said since it's on Facebook it must be true, unless it's a lie. He said furthermore no self respecting English gent like Dereck.C would waste his time chatting on FB with a Filipina, when he could be in the big leagues living in Bangkok or Pattaya for the last four years.

Colombo: Excuse me Sir, just one more question, how big or was your bank account?

Here in the Philippines it all comes down to 2 things and those who have lived here over 5 years(If you are a fast learner-1 year) know that the women  here(most)are interested in money(most but not all) and the men are selfish and only interested in 1 thing.Sad but true.Jimmy

capricornrising wrote:

Here in the Philippines it all comes down to 2 things and those who have lived here over 5 years(If you are a fast learner-1 year) know that the women  here(most)are interested in money(most but not all)

Well. Its a huge difference between
/gold diggers  = crap people
/and them aiming at get married to a nice/ok man and not need to wory about affoding the basics  =ok/good.

To be fair
/rather many women around 20 yo are interested in rather many men around 40yo for their PERSON WITHOUT money involved. "Western" women too.
(E g one when I were 37 and one when I were 40, both in upper teenage from families with much MORE money than I      (The first a daughter to similar as governor and the other to daughter of the boss in a Volvo car factory.  Some others so young so it became embarrassing. Early 20thies ones later too, but the Swedish very young ones after me dried out    when I passed fifty.

/BUT why would a GOOD beaitiful around 20yo woman chose a man in my age around 70 or even over 80 if it wasnt to not need to worry about affording basics as food...

Although concerning Filipinas its common they value down themselves much when they pass 30, specialy if they are single mother, which is common by many Filipinos - and FOREIGN playboys  - make them pregnant, leave and dont pay support. 

capricornrising wrote:

the men are selfish and only interested in 1 thing.

Yes. Thats why some GOOD young Filipinas are inteested in old foreigners   
Some are fed up by irrsponcible young men.
But it can take time to find the good ones.  (Im rather sure I found a good one, but she gave up waiting and I dont blame her. I suppouse she got worried when she had passed 30   

Well I have decided to give up on women. Sure seems like they all want the same thing and its not me. The old fashioned love that our parents had doesnt exist in the Philippines.Not that I can see anyway. My dad wasnt looking for a sleep mate every night and my mom wasnt looking for a guy with money. They had a wondefrul 44 yr marriage. I havent seen that here in this country. I guess I am just tired of being asked the same 3 questions everytime I meet some one"How old are you?Do you own your own home? Are you married?" Once the pandemic is over perhaps its time to move on to another country where people dont care how fat my wallet is. Just wanna appreciate another human being from another culture.JIMMY

capricornrising wrote:

I guess I am just tired of being asked the same 3 questions everytime I meet some one"How old are you?Do you own your own home? Are you married?"

Them I made bold rather many SWEDISH women asked me       back when I went to dances before I got injuried     Specialy "Are you married?" which I enterprete as they are very interested.
Often combined with "What do you work with?"  So no big difference from the questions you wrote   
(When they asked what I worked with I just said "Distribution" or "PR", I didnt tell  I owned a rather big such business, but some found me interesting enough anyway 

capricornrising wrote:

Just wanna appreciate another human being from another culture.JIMMY

Yup....those good old days are no more..it'll just get worse...infact like Zager & Evens hit "in the year 2525" ...I presume we will get there even before that.
All in the name of progress.
  (OMO)

Different countries with differs attitude

capricornrising wrote:

Well I have decided to give up on women. Sure seems like they all want the same thing and its not me.

Here is an example of a GOOD woman  Youtube chanel "A foreigner in the Philippines" . When they became together he was almost broke by some problem with his SSS transfer, which is LOW even when it arrive...  Mostly they joke.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6tIMUfrCTg&t=106s

Yes there is always the good/bad & ugly side....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=8HneHEC-a40 … ture=share

Lucky for him he chose to persevere & finally found a "good" partner in the end.

manwonder ~

That guys video shows a minor scam. I know of Filipinas who have scammed foreigners out of millions while they have secret Filipino boyfriends.

FortuneFavorsTheBold wrote:

manwonder ~

That guys video shows a minor scam. I know of Filipinas who have scammed foreigners out of millions while they have secret Filipino boyfriends.

Sad but true...I presume that these scams may get even more elaborate & I don't think its just one simple minded boyfriend working in the background.
(omo)

I’ve enjoyed reading your posts Capricornrising and take my proverbial hat off to you for your staying power. If I’d stayed that long I would have been writing this from the Asylum 

I realise that this is tangentially off topic and hope the Censor Police won’t sanction me but 7 years ago I visited Indonesia for a business client for the first time.

The country for me was like a ‘breath of fresh air’ culturally speaking compared to the Philippines although Jakarta mirrors many of the congestion and pollution issues that dog Manila.

Its probably fellow forum readers the best kept secret in Asia for most expats excepting Bali which many ‘happy holiday’ tourists are not aware is part of the country. Most Filipinos don’t even know where it is.

Over the years following this forum many expats who relocate to the Philippines make the mistake of comparing and moaning about the lack of infrastructure compared to their advanced home countries.

Indonesia offers a fair comparable to make with the Philippines and Jimmy if you are looking for a new habitat to consider you could do much worse.

FortuneFavorsTheBold wrote:

I know of Filipinas who have scammed foreigners out of millions while they have secret Filipino boyfriends.

Undepending of having secret Filipino bf or not, In the biger cases its common the foreigners have put land and house in GIRLFRIEND´s name!!!  When the gf tell the foreigner to leave, then its obvious NO CRIME because the foreigner GAVE it away...
So such "solutions" are realy stupid, but common still!!!   

Lotus Eater wrote:

Over the years following this forum many expats who relocate to the Philippines make the mistake of comparing and moaning about the lack of infrastructure compared to their advanced home countries.

I EXPECT bad infrastructure,

I complain about stupidy and corruption instead   

I am not sure emigrating to the Philippines for a girlfriend is the right reason to go there. I love the country and I find myself happier when I am there. I love the warm climate, the cost of living is excellent for me and the fact that English is commonly spoken is helpful. These are the reasons I am choosing to live there. I do want a partner in my life, but only when I get there and we are actually together will I know and trust someone.

The best way to get scammed is to trust someone you never met except for online. I am not saying that all are deceitful. But many people seem to have two lives, an online life and a real life. There is a saying, "Don't put your eggs in one basket". Maybe that is what some girls are doing in their quest for a relationship with a foreigner.

Just make sure you are moving to the Philippines for the right reasons. Your happiness begins with you.

Hi
I also have given up on women!! Not that I don't want one it's just that I've tired of all the hard work and time it takes to vett one! Filipino's love children! But once they reach a certain age they become resources for the families! Girls are raised to find a partner that can contribute to the estate of the family! Any foreigner is a jackpot! These feudal concepts are straight out of Europe and obviously brought through the Church! So a Filipina looks at all men through this lens! Filipino men see women as a chattels sanctioned by the church! So no room for western style love! By the same token if you set the ground rules with a women and her family about money and any possessions you bring to the table they generally will respect them! Once you understand this way of life and accept it while still confronting your girlfriend about abnormal activity you will have a good relationship with her and her family! Always let the family know there will be no loans of any kind! Filipinos see these as gifts! I am totally done with the Philippines!! I am in SoCal now preparing for my new life in the Caribbean! I will spend the rest of my days staying no more then 3 months in any one place! I want to enjoy the change of scenery and cultures this offers me! I'm not rich but I can afford to live comfortably doing the Nomad thing! I can work if I like anywhere! I'm a retired Land Surveyor from the Oregon Dept. of Transportation! I specialize in flying professional drones and provide civil engineers with 3D models of the lands they may be developing! So my drones are my current girlfriends and they are loyal to a fault!

DukeStamina wrote:

The best way to get scammed is to trust someone you never met except for online. I am not saying that all are deceitful. But many people seem to have two lives, an online life and a real life. There is a saying, "Don't put your eggs in one basket". Maybe that is what some girls are doing in their quest for a relationship with a foreigner.

Yes.  Suprising how many send money regularly after short meetingg and even without met!

lasvegan wrote:

Hi
I also have given up on women!! Not that I don't want one it's just that I've tired of all the hard work and time it takes to vett one! Filipino's love children! But once they reach a certain age they become resources for the families! Girls are raised to find a partner that can contribute to the estate of the family! Any foreigner is a jackpot! These feudal concepts are straight out of Europe and obviously brought through the Church! So a Filipina looks at all men through this lens! Filipino men see women as a chattels sanctioned by the church! So no room for western style love!

Well.  Many abandonded single mother Filipinas say "Never again a Filipino".  So there is hope   

I believe I had real love with an ex - An ex because she made stupid business misstakes by not thinking enough before acting (and not asking me before messin up more than once) .  (I have told her its possible I will give her a new chance IF she show she start thinking good. Some improvement, but not enough yet.)

lasvegan wrote:

By the same token if you set the ground rules with a women and her family about money and any possessions you bring to the table they generally will respect them! Once you understand this way of life and accept it while still confronting your girlfriend about abnormal activity you will have a good relationship with her and her family! !

Or without her family if its crap 
I have made it clear I will NOT give any support (except to old/ill) other than Help-to-self-help IF they show they do their best allready. 
(E g a Filipina said herself big part of her family is to lazy and act to bad to be worth any support, specialy the three eldest brothers, who police take when they missbehave when they get drunk.  But its a problem the bad ones live together with the few good ones, so the bad ones would sneak from support too.  No chance I would agree to that - which she understand.)

It seems the men that have been taken advantage of all the same things in common. They are lonely and any women who shows interest in them their expectations get high, too high, leading them into bad decisions.

When they realize they made a foolish mistake, but still they invest more time & money, holding on by a thread, hoping for a different outcome.

I can relate this to the years I've spent in Las Vegas, I watch  gamblers lose money at the table, they reach into their wallet and pull more money. In their mind they want to get their money back, but the truth is that money they lost is not their money, it's the Casinos money.

So the love of their life which they lost was never the love of that women's life.

Why do Expats reach out to Asian women on line? because money is power and even the poorest Expat is better off than the women they seek on line. Willy Sutton why do you rob banks? "Because that's where the money is."

Filipina women why do you go on Philippine Cupid? "Because that's where the money is".

All the time we hear about these men that have been taken advantage of and that's a small percentage of the group. Most men will not come out in public and tell the world how stupid they were.

Enzyte Bob wrote:

All the time we hear about these men that have been taken advantage of and that's a small percentage of the group. Most men will not come out in public and tell the world how stupid they were.

Exactly "how stupid they were".  I mean them who buy even real estate in GIRLFRIENDs name!!! 
Its hard to avoid totaly the risk to be scammed by gf/wife - if geting any     - but buying real estate in girlfriend s name is INVITING to be scammed by making it legaly it isnt even a scam...

Perhaps start an "Avoid to be scammed" - service, but I suppouse they, who make this very stupid misstake, will not use the service until AFTER they have messed up and got sscammed   

Women here in the Philippines are starting to not be a turn on anymore not even the pretty ones and As a foreigner I just cant tell if they are interested in me or what I represent$$$$ I will say a few times I could tell they wanted to know me better and money wasnt on their mind but that only happened a few times. I was carrying 2 heavy bags ups the street one time and a young Pinay saw me and said"Let me help you with that"I told her thanks and i was just going up to SM and so she walked up there with me. On the way up she started asking questions and one of them was "Do you live alone?" I said yeah and she said"Oh-Can I go with you to your apartment" I just told her NO and when we reached the SM parking lot ,I thanked her and got got on my motorbike and rode away. Other times I will be walking down the street and see a nice looking Pinay walking with a foreigner and it was obvious they were a couple and she was looking at me checking me out like she was window shopping looking for something better than what she already had. Seems like women(God bless um) are all looking for the same thing-a nice looking guy with money,house and all the other things that goes with it. Its not a surprise to me the ones I really want to approach me- DONT.They are the ones who say hello and that maybe have a cup of coffee together and just chat and know each other a little better. They are the ones who have a good stable,sufficient job and not interested in money and just looking for a good man which I consider myself to be, I never in the 9 years I have been here have encountered them yet but always hoping to some day.When women ask you how old you are and if you own your own home and if you are married,well,they are obviously interested in one thing-especially in this country being a third world .I belong to an online dating sight and in some Pinays profiles she has a LIST of what SHE wants.For example-Must take me to America-has to be a certain age. Must treat her like a Princess. Must take her traveling and  on and on the list continues. Must be tall and good looking.No picture-No reply.Its like the man has to  be the knight in shining armor and have the money and house,new car and all and everything that goes with it.Women just dont seem to realize that if men have all that they want what are they gonna have to deserve what they have? And its not all about sex. Women sure seem to put themselves up on pedestals sometimes(not all) but they also seem to forget that God made Adam first and then Eve as a companion for Adam.Not the other way around.I think the women's liberation has caused more harm than good. Of course men should always be good to women but women must also reciprocate and be the woman God created them to be and to remember their role in life. Men should never abuse  women or be arrogant towards them as there are many who are and thats just plain WRONG!They should walk side by side,take turns in the lead role and giving advise and always compromising to solve disagreements, and be willing to give their life for the other one.This of course just my opinion and makes sense to me.The longer i live here in this country I have developed a true sympathy for the Philippina woman as the Pinoy men basically are (dogs-many but not all) and only care about ONE thing. Will leave their wife or GF  and kids and go be with a 2nd and even a third woman and have kids with them. The no divorce here makes that easy for them to do. This is wrong and the Pinoy men here in this country need to be less selfish and more selfless and at least support their wife/Gf after they leave them.Sure seems they just dont care.Sad but true,in my opinion.Life goes on-K SA RA SA RA!......JIMMY

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm 50, from Canada, and have been with a Filipina lady twenty years younger than me for over three years.  We met on a popular online dating site, and now we have a newborn son together. We've travelled to different countries together and I have to say she is the best partner I've ever had in my life.  She is incredibly loyal, beautiful, and an amazing mother to our son.  I've never felt that she was looking for a "backup man" while we have been together. Maybe because I'm already well off financially and pretty good looking...who knows.  But to be honest, it is true that feminism is starting to spread out to South East Asia as well unfortunately.  My advice, stay away from the "women" who are super beautiful...odds are they are not biological women, and here in the Philippines, for some bizarre reason, the ladyboys think it is okay to deceive foreign men right until the bitter end that they are in fact male and not female.  This deception has led to homicide in some cases where the foreigner murdered the ladyboy...so please exercise caution out there and stay safe...always exercise your better judgment.  Take care and be safe :-)

Enzyte Bob wrote:

manwonder wrote:

...but I don't see much of that happening with expats >60.. sadly they are the ones who tend to let their guard down in their search for that paradise effect...only to be scammed by parasites & in turn suffer the full brunt of their carelessness....sometimes like you say the big head does leave too much of the decission making to the smaller head.

(Omo)

Ever hear the saying: There is no fool like an old fool.

Seniors scammed by women is only a small part of the scam problem, seniors are the good targets for all kinds of scams. There is a reason for this, it is caused by a physical change in the brain, between the age of 20 and 60 you loose about 1 1/2 oz of brain matter, younger people can regenerate these brain cells, seniors cannot.

A word to the wise in seniors, don't engage in anything that leads to the loss of brain cells.

Have you ever heard the term rattle brain? The term is close to real. Poor decisions in seniors with age happens. If our little head had all those lost brain cells, a lot of us would be better off.

Oh my goodness, you are showing that you must truly not have much education beyond secondary high school.  All you mentioned about brain matter is absolute rubbish.  If you are going to make such outlandish claims please support with evidence beyond this anecdotal bullshit.

coach53 wrote:

capricornrising wrote:

Pinay got hooked up with a foreigner from the UK and they  got married had 2 or 3 kids together and then her and her secret boyfriend hired a hit man to do away with the unknowing guy from UK.They caught them both and they went to jail but probably both let out by now as things like this are common.

I dont know if common. At the list of around 100 murdered foreigners in I believe 7 - 10 years a big majority were Indians (I suppouse "Bombay" lloan shatks)  so not many other foreigners murdered according to that list.
But I know of two posible/sure cases:
/A Swede. Motive unclear. He was both loan shark and involved in a triangle relation.
/A Canadian. Murdered by assassins SEEN hired by wife and his BODYGUARD, who also was the wife´s lower. Wife pregnant posible wirh the lover. But according to a foreigner knowing this Canadian, the Canadian had done very bad violent crimes close to murder so no loss for the world he got murdered, but the foreigner witnessed against the murderers anyway.  Police was some slow so the wife got away to Canada and the last I heared Canada DIDNT extradite her...

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Ever hear the saying: There is no fool like an old fool.

Seniors scammed by women is only a small part of the scam problem, seniors are the good targets for all kinds of scams. There is a reason for this, it is caused by a physical change in the brain, between the age of 20 and 60 you loose about 1 1/2 oz of brain matter, younger people can regenerate these brain cells, seniors cannot. .

Well. I agree when geting so old so think slow, got problem to learn new important things and/or part dement,
BUT in old age BEFORE that we are suppoused to compensate lost cells with experiences used to wisdom...

Its important to go on exersise brain. Some very old people are still sharp.  My father was still until he died at 84, but he said himself he had became slow..Some seconds to slow to get goiod results in quiz competitions anymore     so he quit that a 2 years before he died.
The oldest woman in "my" county, 104,  was very sharp thinker still and got interviewed at her birthday.  The reporter found it funny sshe had a new boyfriend and tried to make a joke about it:
-What do your children say about this
-No meaning asking them..  They are senile.

The fact is that seniors with post secondary education, for example, university degrees from western countries to the level of doctorate, double-masters degree et cetera are less likely to suffer from vascular dementia and other such cognitive deficiencies as life progresses because learning creates increased grey matter volume and neural connections.  This information can be found in scientific journals in databases like PsychInfo and so on.

capricornrising wrote:

Its not a surprise to me the ones I really want to approach me- DONT.They are the ones who say hello and that maybe have a cup of coffee together and just chat and know each other a little better. They are the ones who have a good stable,sufficient job and not interested in money and just looking for a good man which I consider myself to be, I never in the 9 years I have been here have encountered them yet but always hoping to some day.

Odd. I know several such. A litle over 30, most of them single mothers of 1-2, disapointed at irresponcible Filipinos...
Some examples of them I know:
/Nurse with a very charming 2 yo daughter.  =My ex who gave up waiting.
/Secretary in shipping office plus an own small business she earn 7 - 9000  per montth at.  1 son
/Telecom office. No kids.  ​
/Restaurant manager since she was 24.  2  kids.
/Hotel with manager education. No kids. (Married now).
/Teacher. No kids.  A Filipino teacher who CAN count percent!!!   
/Amazon order handler.  No kids.   (This s the one I believe love me, but make to much mess by not thinking enough before act, so she need to change that to make me think of giving her a new chance.)

Beside perhaps the restaurant manager these are women who DONT try to hock up with  men by approaching them  at malls/streets. . Two of them are so shy so it was hard to make them talk at all         Three of  them look just average or a bit above, three of them beautiful without bother to much about how they look. Back when the "Amazon" sold through Lazada, in the beginning Lazada fetched up everywhere, but when they changed to fetch at deposits the driver went on going to her place. She found that odd but I dont because I suppouse he wanted to come and look at her   

Btw all of them except the nurse (but her grandparents are farmers) live in cities now but grew up RURAL.  Almost all the good ones I have found grew up rural but are much more active than average rural.

capricornrising wrote:

I belong to an online dating sight and in some Pinays profiles she has a LIST of what SHE wants.For example-Must take me to America-has to be a certain age. Must treat her like a Princess. Must take her traveling and  on and on the list continues. Must be tall and good looking.No picture-No reply.

Well. Thats GOOD, because if they demand to much in their list, then you can use that to sort them AWAY   

capricornrising wrote:

Women sure seem to put themselves up on pedestals sometimes(not all)

Well. She with hotel manager exam value DOWN herself extreemly, although she is rather good looking (shy, pretty so no charisma as e g the "Amazon".  She valued down herself so much so she thought she was to old to get married before whe was 27       and was even prepared to marry an alcoholic who hit her       before I told her she dont need to.   (She felt she had to because he had said Yes before he started hiting her, but I see it as HE broke the agreement by start hiting her.)

capricornrising wrote:

they also seem to forget that God made Adam first and then Eve as a companion for Adam.Not the other way around.I think...   the women's liberation has caused more harm than good. Of course men should always be good to women but women must also reciprocate and be the woman God created them to be and to remember their role in life.

I think its your attitude which make you have problem to get educated woman....      Why would an educated woman, who can support herself, accept that...
E g the shipping office woman support herself, her son and her mother WITHOUT asking sibblings for assistance, not even the brother who have got the family real estate.  (Except once she asked some assistance from the sibblings, when their mother needed surgery.)

(Im just average looking (but have much charisma which I can put on when I want to) but of some odd reason SWEDISH young wiomen were interested in me until I passed fifty, specialy the beautiful ones, I guess because I DONT get impressed by beauty so I talk NORMAL with them - except I joke more about them too as well as make fun of myself      Although better look up some when joking with Filipinas because they have other joking culture and can take "western" jokes very serious.)

I know rather many Filipinas, who like to talk with me, although I have told them we DONT suit to marry each other, and I have NEVER given them any money...    Some of them are crap though     I comunicate with many types of Filipinos to learn cultural things "unfiltered" by they have no gain - except I assist them with knowledge when they want to.  And sometimes when they dont want to too   

capricornrising wrote:

leave wife and kids  ... The no divorce here makes that easy for them to do.

Well. The DIVORSE law make it HARDER by they commit a crime by having sex with other women when still being married.

What make it easier its to easy to DISAPEAR and AVOID pay support. although there is a law about that too. Much to hard ffor abandonded women to demand support for kids by such has to be filed where tthe MAN live or very close to HIM even if he has moved to other island!!!  (The most common ssituation has to be filed in the barangay or neihbour barangay to where the man live.) Extra hard when not knowing where he has moved...

onefogarty wrote:

My advice, stay away from the "women" who are super beautiful...odds are they are not biological women, and here in the Philippines, for some bizarre reason, the ladyboys think it is okay to deceive foreign men right until the bitter end that they are in fact male and not female.  This deception has led to homicide in some cases where the foreigner murdered the ladyboy...so please exercise caution out there and stay safe...always exercise your better judgment.

Well. SOME shemales are beatiful and some look terrible 
I know some very beautiful who sure are females   

But you are correct, mostly its better to go for less beautiful.

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I agree sometimes its hard to see, but often its some similar though  to the Jerry Springer show where American wifes hadnt understood their husbands were gay, although it couldnt be more obvious
Even when shemales have took away the Adams apple by surgery, there are other signs as shoulders and hands.  Although sometimes IU have wondered if someeone realy is a woman,  by looking ridicilous as woman   

Btw  I have all types of FRIENDS         I dont bother what sex they are and which sexuality they have - as long as they dont try to hook up with me  - but I dont like when women run after me neither   

. .
True story:
A foreigner and his rather new Filipina girlfriend went together to a bar with gogo dancers. The foreigner looked very much at the beautiful gogo dancers.
-I didnt know you are interested like that in men, said the Filipina and the foreigner understood nothing   

onefogarty wrote:

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm 50, from Canada, and have been with a Filipina lady twenty years younger than me for over three years. 

We met on a popular online dating site,

Maybe because I'm already well off financially and pretty good looking...who knows.

Everybody knows

onefogarty wrote:

"Oh my goodness, you are showing that you must truly not have much education beyond secondary high school.  All you mentioned about brain matter is absolute rubbish.  If you are going to make such outlandish claims please support with evidence beyond this anecdotal bullshit."

My anecdotal support is in the above quoted remarks by you. But for hard factual information just Google:   Loss of brain matter in old age.

Loss of brain matter? I am having whiskey.
If you guys are in the same town as I am (or when I am there), I'd invite you for a cigar and drink, then we can talk about ludicrous claims.

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