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Hi. I am a US citizen married with children. Outside my marriage, I fathered a filipina in the philippines. I took responsibility of my newborn daughter, after DNA testing the US embassy required it was proven she is my daughter and now a US citizen. My daughter now have a US passport.
I want my daughter to be with me for she will have a better future here in the US. But I can feel that the mother dont want to unless she will go with my daughter. (The mother is not a US citizen) She wants child support instead. But im willing to support but only to my daughter and here in the US.
My question:
1. Since my daughter is a US citizen, isnt she limited to stay in the philippines?
2. I am the legit father, can she join me here in the US without the mother?
3. The mother wants to take my daughter to taiwan, can she take my daughter without my authorization. Can I file a complain of abduction?
4. Can the US embassy help me in case I have legal battle with her about child custody?
Thanks for the help
She is a dual citizen. Why wouldn't you provide child support if she remains in the Philippines? According to the Philippines Family Code, the mother is usually given custody unless you can prove she is not fit for some reason. The fact that your daughter is also a US citizen doesn't really enter into it, but when she is older she can go there of course. It doesn't cost much to pay for a private school in the Philippines so you can ensure that she gets a good education. I'm not sure if the mother can take the girl to Taiwan, that would be worth checking into.
And since your daughter is a US citizen she will be required to pay income tax on her world wide income to the IRS, even if she never sets foot in the USA.
Thanks for all the inputs. I am enlightened now. Im willing to pay support, its just that I want her to be with me if its possible, I dont want to miss the years of her growing up away from me.
mugtech wrote:And since your daughter is a US citizen she will be required to pay income tax on her world wide income to the IRS, even if she never sets foot in the USA.
Wow, I actually had to check on that but it appears to be true. Unless they renounce their US citizenship.But of course they're not double taxed, just have to pay in US or the other country.
https://brighttax.com/blog/dual-citizen … -tax-rules
Desperatepop wrote:Hi. I am a US citizen married with children. Outside my marriage, I fathered a filipina in the philippines. I took responsibility of my newborn daughter, after DNA testing the US embassy required it was proven she is my daughter and now a US citizen. My daughter now have a US passport.
I want my daughter to be with me for she will have a better future here in the US. But I can feel that the mother dont want to unless she will go with my daughter. (The mother is not a US citizen) She wants child support instead. But im willing to support but only to my daughter and here in the US.
My question:
1. Since my daughter is a US citizen, isnt she limited to stay in the philippines?
2. I am the legit father, can she join me here in the US without the mother?
3. The mother wants to take my daughter to taiwan, can she take my daughter without my authorization. Can I file a complain of abduction?
4. Can the US embassy help me in case I have legal battle with her about child custody?
Thanks for the help
Let me get this straight.
You are an American, married with children. In 2018 or perhaps late 2017, you were in the Philippines and had an extramarital affair with a Filipino woman. You had sex with her and got her pregnant. Now you have a daughter with her, an infant. You applied for the baby to have a US citizenship and a US passport. In the process, it was proven that you are truly the biological father. You are back in the US with your family.
You do not want to support the mother of your child. You are willing to support your daughter, but only if she lives with you, your wife, her half-siblings in the US, away from her mom, from the woman who carried her for 9 months and gave birth to her, and into an awkward situation living with the people her parents betrayed.
The mom will not let you take her daughter to the US, and understandably so, because she fears she will never see her again. And now you are considering going into a legal battle for child custody, which will cost a lot of money and most probably drag on for years, because you think your daughter “will have a better future here in the US.”
Do you realize that you will be hurting, rather than helping, your daughter if you do this?
Your child has a right to receive child support wherever she is. Be good father and give her that. Don’t hurt your child by bringing her mom to court to get child custody. You will likely lose anyways. Better use the money for her college education than paying for lawyers and plane tickets and accommodations during custody hearings.
Be civil to the mom, because how your child will see you will depend on how her mom depicts you to her. Are you the bad guy who causes her distress or the kind father who helps make their life a bit easier?
I hope you read my reply that im willing to support
Filamericanmom i hope you read my reply earlier that im willing to give child support. And Im enlightened. All you read was my inquiry and you dont know and I didnt tell the whole story yet why im asking. Dont be so judgemental yet.
Filamericanmom im back in the US but not with my family. If im causing distress and im a bad guy i will not apply CRBA for my daughter and I will just leave her and its so easy to disown her but I didnt do it. Dont jump into conclusions and make up a story for me lady. You dont know our story yet and the reason I inquired in this forum. I accept and gave thanks to all the inputs except yours. Everyone's a sinner, I know im a sinner, as well as your not a saint.
Glad you're willing to support your daughter, desperatepop. It's the right thing to do. Many guys just disappear. Real men support their children.
Desparate. By your own wording, it sounds as though you aren’t unless she is in the US with you.
“But im willing to support but only to my daughter and here in the US. ”
I have an input or suggestion for the OP. I really don't care if I get any thanks for it. OP can thank other forum members who might comment about it.
Here it is: You should support not just your daughter, but also the mom. Why?
Many Filipinos try to go abroad to find work. Your daughter’s mom might also be thinking about it. But if you give support to the mom, she might consider to just remain in the Philippines, be a stay-at-home mom and take care of your daughter. The cost of supporting her might even be cheaper than the cost of childcare in the US. (How much is daycare now per hour?)
When both OFW parents go abroad, they leave their children back home under the care of relatives such as grandparents, aunts, uncles. Sometimes, these relatives don't care, even though they're receiving money / remittance.
As another forum member had put it on another thread, the children are put on "auto-pilot". Children grow up without authority figures. They get mixed into bad company, become lazy, have no motivation, get into trouble. When the parents come back, they find it a nightmare to undo, and it might not even be possible to undo, several years of bad habits.
So, I think it would be best if your daughter’s mom would be the one to take care and supervise your daughter, with you “co-piloting.” Any parent would want to see their child grow up with them. But sometimes, it just can’t be. And one just has to accept it, and work out a plan that will work for all.
I have an acquaintance, Filipino married to a foreigner, who is a stay-at-home mom. She and her husband met and worked on a cruise ship. They were based in UK. They can’t both work because there will be no one who could take care of their very young child. And with the cost of living in the UK, they can’t afford living there with just one income.
The Filipino mom and the child now live in the Philippines, where the cost of living is less. The dad visits around every 4-5 months. But in between, they do a lot of face time over the internet. The mom is focused on her child’s upbringing, education, and teaches her good manners and respect especially to the dad. This works out well for them. The mom said they’re planning to go back to UK in the future.
Once your daughter has grown up, she might want move to the US for better opportunities, perhaps for a better life. And she would probably look forward to that as she matures, and will be thankful that you gave her a good childhood, an education and the option to live in the US. When she’s there, it’s your turn to be with her (from around age 22 onwards) to guide and teach her about arts, culture, life.
My take on your 4 questions:
1. If your daughter is a US citizen, she can move to the US either without any or with very few restrictions once she’s an adult. But if you want to bring her to the US as a minor, you would need consent from the mom for her to go to the US.
2. Similar to question 1. As an adult, she can. As a minor, no. You need the mom’s consent.
3. Remember that your daughter is also a Philippine citizen. The mom can apply for a Philippine passport for her daughter. Unlike for US passport where 2 parents are required to make an appearance, for Philippine passport, I think only 1 parent is required. I’m not sure as to whether the mom can bring her daughter to Taiwan with her without your consent. But I think it would be easier for her to get that passport if your name is not in your daughter’s PSO birth certificate.
4. Sometimes, the embassy intervenes when it’s a dangerous or life-threatening situation. But in your case, the embassy will probably tell you that they don’t offer legal advice, that you would have to talk to an attorney.
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