Buy a 50cc imported (nopp)

Go to an authorised dealer, a Honda Cub 50cc is about 14 million.

Authorized dealer, do you mean Honda stores ? Because in Vietnam they dont sell any 50cc bikes (binh thanh - go vap)
Maybe you have an address to give me in saigon ?

I also already visited a store supposed to be serious, see a cup50 and on the frame of the bike writed TAYA MOTOR...

Ive seen them at Honda dealers, make sure it actually is a Honda dealer.

I never saw a 50cc on the showroom floor at any official Honda Head dealer, but I have been told that they are available on order.  You need to find a salesman who speaks English or bring a Viet friend.  I am curious how this works out for you.  Please let us know.

Edit:  It will of course be more expensive than a Honda but you might want to peek into a Piaggio dealership.  There are 50CC Vespas for sale in the US.  Maybe they are available in Vietnam as well.

Thanks
Yes Honda and 50cc its over since long time. However I think there is a real market with these bikes in vietnam.
I talked with 2 stores US famous in saigon and they dont have 50cc.
I asked one of them about the risk to drive a 50cc  without blue card, and for him there is absolutely no risk (just a coffee money).
Chotot with a friend but also complicated to know if the blue card is fake or not... and lot of time spend for finally try a Taya fake honda...

Same with Vespa, the smallest is VIP 100cc...

Golgo13 wrote:

Thanks
Yes Honda and 50cc its over since long time. However I think there is a real market with these bikes in vietnam.
I talked with 2 stores US famous in saigon and they dont have 50cc.
I asked one of them about the risk to drive a 50cc  without blue card, and for him there is absolutely no risk (just a coffee money).
Chotot with a friend but also complicated to know if the blue card is fake or not... and lot of time spend for finally try a Taya fake honda...

Same with Vespa, the smallest is VIP 100cc...

Whether or not Honda is selling 50cc bikes in Vietnam is a marketing decision.  The bikes are being made and not only for sale in Asia.  In fact Honda sells two 50cc models in the US.  I see them being driven around Honolulu.

I am not surprised about Vespa as they seem to try to target the high status part of the market.  They probably feel that selling 50cc scooters will tarnish their image.

If you cant find a Cub, what about an electric bike.

colinoscapee wrote:

If you cant find a Cub, what about an electric bike.

It is a good remark.
I went to vincom to see the Vinfast bike (klara model) and they told me, due to the powerful engine it need a license A to be drived.
After, although 50cc is a small engine, the sound of a Honda cub is amazing 

Golgo13 wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

If you cant find a Cub, what about an electric bike.

It is a good remark.
I went to vincom to see the Vinfast bike (klara model) and they told me, due to the powerful engine it need a license A to be drived.
After, although 50cc is a small engine, the sound of a Honda cub is amazing 

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colinoscapee wrote:

Golgo13 wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

If you cant find a Cub, what about an electric bike.

It is a good remark.
I went to vincom to see the Vinfast bike (klara model) and they told me, due to the powerful engine it need a license A to be drived.
After, although 50cc is a small engine, the sound of a Honda cub is amazing 

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/business/20 … 48185.html

Thank you ! I did not know Honda electric motorcycles.
I thought the only electric Honda was Sundiro Honda from China.
Interesting for the future

I'm familiar with the Honda Ruckus model, as it's named and marketed in the US. 50cc. I'm told they are sold by Honda stores in Vietnam by a friend in Tuyen Quang. They may have a different model name as is the case with many motorbikes sold in different countries.

The Ruckus is an odd tubular one-seat design that would mostly only appeal to the very young.  Besides the Ruckus there is a model called the Metropolitan in the US which is a step through design, like a Vespa or Honda Lead.  I suspect that Honda Vietnam fears these models, particularly the Metropolitan, would cannibalize the sales of their other models in Vietnam.

Edit:  Just found this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CHF50  Apparently this model is sold in Asia.

The Ruckus here calls Zoomer and the Metropolitain (CHF50) called Giorno.
Like all old Honda 50cc they are very complicated to find with paper.

Golgo13 wrote:

The Ruckus here calls Zoomer and the Metropolitain (CHF50) called Giorno.
Like all old Honda 50cc they are very complicated to find with paper.

I had the impression that you were looking for a new bike.  If you buy on order from a Head Honda dealership, why is there a problem with papers?

My Unhappy Life

1. True love Honda 50 died.

2. New Honda 50, they don't come here anymore...

3. Foreign Honda 50 have no Vietnam birth certificate

4. Honda 110 too big for me, need small 50 girl

5. Electric Honda Whatsit, doesn't coo like true love Honda 50

 

Hmm, maybe can still Frankenstein my true love...

gobot wrote:

My Unhappy Life

1. True love Honda 50 died.

2. New Honda 50, they don't come here anymore...

3. Foreign Honda 50 have no Vietnam birth certificate

4. Honda 110 too big for me, need small 50 girl

5. Electric Honda Whatsit, doesn't coo like true love Honda 50

 

Hmm, maybe can still Frankenstein my true love...

😂 excellent
It sums up very well my situation although its a simple means of transport for 6km per day so not really important...
Old or new I dont care as long as it works and it's not too ridiculous.
That's why I considered the option imported without paper and I would have liked to have different opinions other than Tigit and SG (both very nice stores in Q2) who told me 0 risk to drive without blue card.

My very sincere advice is to consider stepping up to a 110cc or 125cc. I have a good friend in Tuyen Quang who rides a Honda Lead 125. She is tiny and they are very easy to ride. All anyone needs to worry about is being able to "flatfoot" as we say when coming to, at a stop. If you can plant your feet on the ground when stopped you can ride it. It is the primary consideration when buying a motorbike. Always look at the seat height specification. Sit on it.

Brooky wrote:

My very sincere advice is to consider stepping up to a 110cc or 125cc.

I think the need, or not, for a driver's license may be an important consideration for some expats.

Brooky wrote:

...  All anyone needs to worry about is being able to "flatfoot" as we say when coming to, at a stop. If you can plant your feet on the ground when stopped you can ride it. It is the primary consideration when buying a motorbike.

No, in Vietnam it is good enough that the flipflop is flat on the ground, and tippy toes on the flipflop. Like the girl I saw arriving at cafe on the big bike last week.

Hey guys, I had the very very luck this week end to meet a friend s husband at a wedding who work for csgt. He  was very clear with me, and for them, the offenses are categorized as follows:
1 dangerous behavior (speed alcohol accidents)
2 driver license
3 ownership of the bike (blue card)
4 helmets and more two people on motorbike
5 old polluted and modified motorbike.
That mean bigger is the offense, greater is the chance of confiscating the bike and higher is the price to pay.

For foreigners they are more tolerant than local due to the language. (of course dont show them your wallet with 3tr inside, just keep 200k)
Also Its very rare for the police to stop people without a visible reason.

There are Facebook groups where expats buy and sell their motorbikes and fully restored Honda Cub 50cc bikes often come up for sale.
If they're expat owned there is every likelyhood that they're also well maintained.
It's worth checking out.
Here is a link to a nice looking red Honda Cub 50cc
facebook.com/marketplace/hochiminhcity/search/?callsite=commerce_mktplace_www_hoisted_pdp&hoisted_item=756122218107192&query=honda%20cub%2050cc

you can always get one of these good looking electric bikes ;-)

DirtyPierre wrote:

There are Facebook groups where expats buy and sell their motorbikes and fully restored Honda Cub 50cc bikes often come up for sale.
If they're expat owned there is every likelyhood that they're also well maintained.
It's worth checking out.
Here is a link to a nice looking red Honda Cub 50cc
facebook.com/marketplace/hochiminhcity/search/?callsite=commerce_mktplace_www_hoisted_pdp&hoisted_item=756122218107192&query=honda%20cub%2050cc

Thank you !
I admit that I completely forgot to look in the expat groups on facebook

One thing that you need to watch for with 50cc Cub restorations is that some restorers feel it is a good idea to bore out the engines to make the bikes more powerful.  Some may even advertise the larger engine while maintaining the 50cc no drivers license paperwork.   The problem is that the engine may not last, particularly if it is bored and not stroked to match. Too much stress on crankshafts and other parts.  Be sure to specify that you want the original engine configuration.

Being able to "tippy toe" isn't safe. People do it. Doesn't make it safe. Flat foot is the benchmark for safe operation. It's in any standard motorcycle knowledge manual in the US, and valid, correct information. 🙂😉

THIGV wrote:

One thing that you need to watch for with 50cc Cub restorations is that some restorers feel it is a good idea to bore out the engines to make the bikes more powerful.  Some may even advertise the larger engine while maintaining the 50cc no drivers license paperwork.   The problem is that the engine may not last, particularly if it is bored and not stroked to match. Too much stress on crankshafts and other parts.  Be sure to specify that you want the original engine configuration.

Exactly. This is one more reason that this type of bike is very complicated to find.
This afternoon I have an appointment with a guy who sells a cub50, apparently original. I will compare with my old.
More it's original and old and it's more expensive. Fortunately I am patient, but my current bike can leave me at any moment 😂