Why do Filipinos just accept standing in line.

manwonder wrote:

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Do you understand what a Social Distancing means? Do SM needs to explain to you in your own language for you to understand?

Even inside the SM supermarket, Social distancing is strictly observed. waiting for more than 30 minutes to three hours queuing? then what is the deal if they are bored to stay at home at least they are outside and killing the time. Why should be in a hurry anyway?

If you have 56,000 Cases in UK because people are used to be hard-headed and rebellious then think the Philippines in the opposite side. Philippines just recorded 3,700 COVID19 cases as of 8th April 2020 compared to UK.  Filipinos understand social distancing even though it is an English word, why you cannot?

If the system and culture are not really acceptable to you, then  fly back to your country and join the group of infected with COVID19 as 56,001 so simple right?

FindlayMacD wrote:

I'm not talking about government offices because the governmend decides their staffing levels, but why do Filipinos just accept standing in line for so long in stores like SM who are happy to take their money but never adequately staff their tills. I've lost count of the times that I have left my basket or shopping trolley there and walked out in disgust. Whereas most Filipinos just seem happy to stand in line for an hour or more and just accept poor service. My local SM has 30 or more tills but they never seem open more than 10, even when people are queuing in the aisles halfway up the store.

Do you understand what a Social Distancing means? Do SM needs to explain to you in your own language for you to understand?

Even inside the SM supermarket, Social distancing is strictly observed. waiting for more than 30 minutes to three hours queuing? then what is the deal if they are bored to stay at home at least they are outside and killing the time. Why should be in a hurry anyway?

If you have 56,000 Cases in UK because people are used to be hard-headed and rebellious then think the Philippines in the opposite side. Philippines just recorded 3,700 COVID19 cases as of 8th April 2020 compared to UK.  Filipinos understand social distancing even though it is an English word, why you cannot?

If the system and culture are not really acceptable to you, then  fly back to your country and join the group of infected with COVID19 as 56,001 so simple right?

mugtech wrote:

It's the whole mañana thing.  Time is not a factor in most daily behavior calculations.  For us it is a 25 minute ride to where we shop, they all are as slow as the next one.  I always take a book.

Learning to be adaptable in any situation and being flexible would simply defines it. lock-down or expanded community quarantine banning all people from going out except for buying food and medicine is the only opportunity for the people to go out.

killing the time outside to kill boredom at home could answer the "why's"

manwonder wrote:

Its a very deep sense of 'accomplishment' they feel; Its just beyond me, but they just love it :
Hey its fun waiting in line for hours :
a) 1st they find the time to be able to chat with neighbours/friends who always seem to appear and then seeing/comparing if they have missed any promo items & thus giving them another chance to dash out of line to pick up those other specific items they might have overlooked/missed the first time.
b) 2nd its always good time to take a 'selfie' which can be uploaded instantly onto FB and to show off to your relatives/neighbours that you were in SM mall today & what you had stashed into your trolleys and who you met at the mall + the latest picture of that new okai2 dress/jeans you are wearing.
c) Time is never ever a problem, they may infact intentionally pick up items without a price tag to then again be able to look disappointed/shocked  & to get the poor sales staff to pick up another tagged item for purchase, and while they are away fm the counter there's always time for another 'Selfie'.
Yup they love it!

It is simply killing time because they could not do anything at home  so why not kill time outside?

pnwcyclist wrote:

^^ What they said..  haha manwonder that was funny..

I will also add that many Filipinos have never experienced fast, efficient service and customer support. Open highways. Doctors appointments that only take an hour. Things we take for granted in the west. As geolefrench said, they just have a lot more patience.. probably because they don't have anything to compare their experience to. And what good would it do to complain? The concept of "customer satisfaction" is mostly unknown in the Philippines.

It is not about efficient customer service but it is about understanding the unacceptable effect of COVID19. Social distancing is required inside the super marker so they should limit the entry of customers until the other would finished buying their stuffs then left then that the time the next in line would be allowed to enter.

Second thing, talking about "efficient customer service", those people talking to most people in the west are Filipinos though their back office in the Philippines. It is just that many expatriates wants their standards what to be followed in their new host country. Well why not return to their own country and enjoy what they wanted instead of keep complaining?

Jackson4 wrote:

While there is truth in manwonder's claim, it may not be fair to compare experiences of those from first world with those of third world's. Finding their hardship or their "normal" behavior amusing and made fun of might be seen as offensive or even bigoted.

I agree!

W9XR wrote:

That's why I take my stepson with me while grocery shopping, he stand inline for me. But, on a negative note there is not enough seating.

Back in the states there was self checkout aisles. At Sam's Club an app using your smart phone, snap the products code, when you're finished, pay on your phone and show the receipt on your phone as walk out.

Also grocery stores had motorized carts with seats, seniors whizzing down the aisles, a prelude to driving in the Philippines.

Then go back to your states.. Why should compare the 1st world country to a third world country then? In the first place, the Philippines did not call you to come and move to the 3rd world country but your choice to come. It was your choice t move to the PHI then leave if you don't like..

FindlayMacD wrote:

At this particular time with the coronavirus outbreak I think what SM and other supermarkets are doing, or should I say not doing, ie opening extra tills, is very dangerous. Because people seem to be panic buying right now the supermarkets packed are out and are standing in line in very long queues that stretch right to the back of the supermarket and there just isn't the space to self distance.

If all the expats in the Philippines would think like you then no more negas in the corner..

FindlayMacD wrote:

The wrst store here in Cagayan De Oro for staff to tills open ratio is Ace Hardware, sometimes it's hard to get around the store there are so many staff in the way but when you go to the tills only one or maybe 2 are open, even when the store is very busy. The division of labour here is strange, they have staff and cashiers whereas most stores in the west would train their staff to do both, one day they are stacking shelves and the next day they are working the till.

You should call then attention of their store manager then. You need to report such kind of bad experience so at least you contributed something for a change.

prince_denison wrote:

mugtech wrote:

It's the whole mañana thing.  Time is not a factor in most daily behavior calculations.  For us it is a 25 minute ride to where we shop, they all are as slow as the next one.  I always take a book.

Learning to be adaptable in any situation and being flexible would simply defines it. lock-down or expanded community quarantine banning all people from going out except for buying food and medicine is the only opportunity for the people to go out.

killing the time outside to kill boredom at home could answer the "why's"

Has nothing to do with lockdown, I'm talking about how it has been since 1994.  Not complaining, just observing.

prince_denison wrote:

FindlayMacD wrote:

The wrst store here in Cagayan De Oro for staff to tills open ratio is Ace Hardware, sometimes it's hard to get around the store there are so many staff in the way but when you go to the tills only one or maybe 2 are open, even when the store is very busy. The division of labour here is strange, they have staff and cashiers whereas most stores in the west would train their staff to do both, one day they are stacking shelves and the next day they are working the till.

You should call then attention of their store manager then. You need to report such kind of bad experience so at least you contributed something for a change.

If the store manager never notices such things, then perhaps it is time for a new store manager.  Unless I'm paid as a management consultant I have nothing to say, just walk away.  I had a cashier who short changed me and when I brought to her attention she gave me more change, but still not enough.  I never said a word to the manager and two weeks later she was gone, have not seen her there since.

eduardo001 wrote:

FindlayMacD wrote:

I'm not talking about government offices because the governmend decides their staffing levels, but why do Filipinos just accept standing in line for so long in stores like SM who are happy to take their money but never adequately staff their tills. I've lost count of the times that I have left my basket or shopping trolley there and walked out in disgust. Whereas most Filipinos just seem happy to stand in line for an hour or more and just accept poor service. My local SM has 30 or more tills but they never seem open more than 10, even when people are queuing in the aisles halfway up the store.

What I learned in 5 years here is that time absolutely does not matter for Filipinos.

It is not only standing in line, they accept everything what government and church telling them. They do not questioning anything. They accept big corporations like Meralco, PLDT or Globe rape them.

They are sheep, great followers. They are not educated. They are brainwashed by church, government and media controlled by church and government. Not all of them of course, but most of them yes. I never seen something like that, maybe only in some part of Africa.

Your information is very opposite of what is the reality.  Don't you know that the Philippines has the longest insurgency in Asia? Do you know what an insurgency means by the way?

Filipinos does not accept everything what the government and the church said. It is the reason why that the rebellion continues until now under the New People's Army (NPA) If they accepted what the government said then they supposed not to fight against the government. Duterte the President is actually currently fighting with the Oligarchs in the country - Meralco, PLDT, Manila Waters, Etc.

Filipinos are not great followers. Did you nod heard about the EDSA revolution in the Philippines that ousted the strongman Marcos? if they are great followers then the most famous revolution would never happened. Though such revolution was the reason making the Philippines poor from the pedestal status of the Richest country in Asia next to Japan into among the poorest in asia because of the constant rebellion and revolution.  Based on fact, it refutes your claim that Filipinos are sheep and great followers.

They are not educated? oh that sounds discrimination with full of exaggeration. If you will measure the literacy if the Filipinos compare to your country based in population then it would clearly show that Croatia is not able to reach up to the small finger compared to the Philippines think of that.. stop so much exaggeration and false claim.. to remind you if any government official would see your claim then you would be put in question for your data of spreading false news and it is a crime in the Philippines now.. or they could simply oust you and banning you to step any island of the Philippines after then.

FindlayMacD wrote:

The wrst store here in Cagayan De Oro for staff to tills open ratio is Ace Hardware, sometimes it's hard to get around the store there are so many staff in the way but when you go to the tills only one or maybe 2 are open, even when the store is very busy. The division of labour here is strange, they have staff and cashiers whereas most stores in the west would train their staff to do both, one day they are stacking shelves and the next day they are working the till.

That means the manager has had a bad experience in the past and is reacting by limiting who has access to cash and how many people have access to it at the same time. Also trying to limit how much loss prevention assets (cams and people) have to focus on at one time.

I have a friend who sells construction supplies here and theft is a huge issue. HUGE ISSUE

Well its not going to be easy for sure!....But I rekon that after we get through the current "ICE AGE" we are all about to face head on (and we will!), Philippines under its current leadership WILL in my opinion be the fastest growing economy in SEA, offcourse with the right policies in place!

Just saying!

prince_denison wrote:

It is simply killing time because they could not do anything at home  so why not kill time outside?

What you do behind closed doors to kill time would get you arrested waiting in line. Does  waiting in line a form of birth control not recognized by the church.

prince_denison wrote:

Then go back to your states.. Why should compare the 1st world country to a third world country then? In the first place, the Philippines did not call you to come and move to the 3rd world country but your choice to come. It was your choice t move to the PHI then leave if you don't like..

Good grief. . . . . go back where I come from is? is so lame. Hahahaha go back to my Mothers Womb?

Dear Prince, Japan was devastated like the Philippines in WW2. Vietnam was devastated by the Vietnam War, South Korea was devastated by the Korean War.

Now look at Japan, South Korea, Vietnam & Taiwan these counties have rebounded and  other SE Asian counties.

Now 75 years later, what happened to the Philippines? It could have been a powerhouse like Japan, Korea & Taiwan.

W9XR wrote:

prince_denison wrote:

It is simply killing time because they could not do anything at home  so why not kill time outside?

What you do behind closed doors to kill time would get you arrested waiting in line. Does  waiting in line a form of birth control not recognized by the church.

Church sees patience as a virtue, been waiting for the second coming for almost two thousand years.  Standing in line is just more waiting.

Nations fail when they have extractive institutions, supported by extractive political institutions that impede and even block economic growth.

Just saying!

W9XR wrote:

So many opinions expressed here with merit. So one size fits all, how about one post that fits most?

Yes investing in a company making contraceptives for the Philippines is not too smart.

(1) The more educated the woman/man is the more likely they will family plan and use contraceptives. What to do about the other 90%?

(2) The Catholic church and the fervent belief of it's members, fervent beliefs when it suits them, is an excuse, causing the problems of over population. For example: Province girls sent by their families to work in Angeles City to support the family.

(3)  Marriage, Catholics don't get married because they can't get divorced. Easy inexpensive civil divorce should rule.

(4) In America abortions is the unspoken method family planning.

(5) Employment, takes a lot of energy and time, but unemployment leaves a lot of time to, you know what.

(6) The uneducated and unemployed falsely believe a lot children will provide for them in their old age.

(7) Filipino men believe womanizing is the norm

(8) Lifelong traditions passed on from generation to generation.

There is more that I can say, but I'm a guest in this country.

Oh no!!!!

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manwonder wrote:

Hehe...W9XR;
Oh no!...not another multiple choice question please.
Maybe its because 'they'  believe that "True love doesn't come with strings attached"....but "IUD" sure does!

Just saying!

Vasectomy anyone?
It works anytime, anywhere.

How’s it hangin’ mate?

Hey Mugtech.... Did I read that right??... hog Bladder???

Well, you still need to do groceries so you will need to be patient if you want to get something done.