COVID-19 and expatriation in Hungary

mstefik wrote:

I’m ending my stay in HU now, as we expect baby and currently we are separated by situation - My wife cant enter Hungary. Therefore I’m moving at least for limited time, maybe for good back home.

Perhaps you can give us more details - why she cannot enter, what would happen if she did etc.  Might help someone else.

e.g. I wanted to go to Austria to pick up some stuff which is non-essential but is opportunistically available but I'm told I'll be quarantined for 14 days on coming back.  So obviously not going.

I was due to return at the end of March but was told by colleagues that everything in my industry was stopping and I would be better off staying put. I have been saving up money to have a nest egg to tap into and planned to come back in June but the virus put a stop to that and I have stayed put. I don’t know how it will effect me in the long term as my address here is not recognised so getting a residence permit was turned down on my last attempt. If I need to nip out I get to the shops at about 08:40 it’s usually me and the shop staff getting ready for the 65+ group waiting patiently for my exit. I have since acquired some chickens and ducks and am now getting 5 eggs a day which I am bartering with neighbours, all in all life in the sticks is pretty much the same as always accept I as I haven’t learnt Hungarian yet I don’t have any need to talk to people here and so am not putting myself in any form of contact with the outside world, keep safe thanks Kelvin

KelvinZalaszengrot wrote:

....I don’t know how it will effect me in the long term as my address here is not recognised so getting a residence permit was turned down on my last attempt. ....

Don't know what you mean by recognised in this context.  You always have an address even if it's just the property number. I assume you own your place and/or have a contract or rental agreement.   Older villages in HU have property numbers on the houses/plots and not always street names and numbers.   These should be acceptable. If you get post, then they know where you are located.

As you are British (I think) you don't need a residence permit or any special permissions.   

If you can get to immigration - possibly online even - you can register yourself and get an EEA/EU registration card sent to you. An address card will be sent to you separately.     That will enable you to come and go without time limit - it won't expire.  You don't need a photo - there's no photo on either card.   

You can still use all the EU things until 31 December 2020 including the EHIC and the e-gates at the airport (assuming planes are flying around - I saw online BA landed in BUD today).

mstefik wrote:

I’m ending my stay in HU now, as we expect baby and currently we are separated by situation - My wife cant enter Hungary. Therefore I’m moving at least for limited time, maybe for good back home.

That is a bit stressful. Hope things work out.
Good news , today we heard on the radio that they have reopened the border for cars coming and going into Austria. Long wait at the border but it should get better soon enough.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

mstefik wrote:

I’m ending my stay in HU now, as we expect baby and currently we are separated by situation - My wife cant enter Hungary. Therefore I’m moving at least for limited time, maybe for good back home.

That is a bit stressful. Hope things work out.
Good news , today we heard on the radio that they have reopened the border for cars coming and going into Austria. Long wait at the border but it should get better soon enough.

Anyone entering Austria will go into quarantine for 14 days.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

mstefik wrote:

I’m ending my stay in HU now, as we expect baby and currently we are separated by situation - My wife cant enter Hungary. Therefore I’m moving at least for limited time, maybe for good back home.

That is a bit stressful. Hope things work out.
Good news , today we heard on the radio that they have reopened the border for cars coming and going into Austria. Long wait at the border but it should get better soon enough.

I think it's still very confused. 

If you look at the HU police web site,  it still says only Hungarians can come in.

On the foreign office web site, it says other categories can come in.

But then you read yet other random monitoring organisations or official web sites and it says practically speaking, even with the right paperwork it's still confused with inconsistently applied restrictions.

SimCityAT wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Good news , today we heard on the radio that they have reopened the border for cars coming and going into Austria. Long wait at the border but it should get better soon enough.

Anyone entering Austria will go into quarantine for 14 days.

Yes, it says something similar for incoming traffic to HU on the UK FCO Hungary travel advice pages:

Travel restrictions
Hungary has restricted entry to foreign nationals. Only Hungarian citizens and EEA citizens (including UK nationals) holding a Permanent Residence Card or a Registration Certificate and Address Card will be allowed to enter the country.

From 27 March, all individuals entering Hungary are obliged to undergo a medical examination at the border to check for signs of Covid-19 infection. Those individuals suspected of infection will be put into officially designated quarantine for 14 days. If there is no suspicion of infection, individuals will still be required to quarantine at home for 14 days.

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

canstey wrote:

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

Depends if you believe the HU statistics. They may not be compiled in the same way.  USA now includes probable deaths in their statistics.  Here, there are rumours they do not attribute a death to coronavirus even if it's suspect and some deaths are misdiagnosed.

The death rate per 1M population in HU is 21.  In the UK it's 237 which is high.   Take the USA which is surprisingly only 123. Belgium, Spain and Italy are far worse - over double the UK.   But if you look at Austria, arguably somewhat comparable to Hungary, it's 52.    One would think it would be approximately the same given the same baseline level of care and planning.

Source:  Worldometers Coronavirus

fluffy2560 wrote:

canstey wrote:

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

Depends if you believe the HU statistics. They may not be compiled in the same way.  USA now includes probable deaths in their statistics.  Here, there are rumours they do not attribute a death to coronavirus even if it's suspect and some deaths are misdiagnosed.

The death rate per 1M population in HU is 21.  In the UK it's 237 which is high.   Take the USA which is surprisingly only 123. Belgium, Spain and Italy are far worse - over double the UK.   But if you look at Austria, arguably somewhat comparable to Hungary, it's 52.    One would think it would be approximately the same given the same baseline level of care and planning.

Source:  Worldometers Coronavirus

Austria has a website, more than the UK has.

SimCityAT wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

canstey wrote:

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

Depends if you believe the HU statistics. They may not be compiled in the same way.  USA now includes probable deaths in their statistics.  Here, there are rumours they do not attribute a death to coronavirus even if it's suspect and some deaths are misdiagnosed.

The death rate per 1M population in HU is 21.  In the UK it's 237 which is high.   Take the USA which is surprisingly only 123. Belgium, Spain and Italy are far worse - over double the UK.   But if you look at Austria, arguably somewhat comparable to Hungary, it's 52.    One would think it would be approximately the same given the same baseline level of care and planning.

Source:  Worldometers Coronavirus

Austria has a website, more than the UK has.

They do but it's not exactly easy to find and it seems to be a bit fragmented:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus … the-public

I've been following Governor Cuomo in NY, USA (mainly because he's a voice of reason against the Moron in Chief) and the NY web pages aren't bad:

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/home

Don't know about more than that.

Austria pretty detailed https://www.sozialministerium.at/Inform … nCov).html

SimCityAT wrote:

Austria pretty detailed https://www.sozialministerium.at/Inform … nCov).html

Yes, a lot better. 

The .AT health ministry graphics are pretty too.

Makes UK look pathetic considering how many resources they have.

canstey wrote:

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

I agree with you.
I'd much rather be here in Hungary then in Las Vegas right now.
( At least the stores have TP here!,Ha, ha)
No seriously, people here are being very respectful of the rules for the most part.
Yesterday while we waited in line to go into the post office( I sent my hubby in alone) everyone kept at least 6 feet apart. A man in front of us heard me ask my husband something so the guy started to talk to us. We kept our distance however. The conversation turned to where we were from, said US and my husband was HU. The young man in front of all of us turned to say he had been to the US as did the older man talking with us. He had visited there and Canada several times, his son lives in Canada. He said his son was robbed in the US by several men at once, his son knew karate but was outnumbered. It was at a gas station, we told him, our son was also robbed at a gas station in the US.
Funny how much people really have in common...
The younger man said he felt safer in Hungary then the US and we all agreed with him.
With this lockdown it is funny how much I look forward to getting bills/checks in the mail. At least we have a legit reason to go out and about for a short time.
I  put on a mask , for the first time to enter the farmers market, no biggie, I made one out of a scarf, my scarf is covered in a chilli pepper print, It is red, white and green.Just like the Hungarian flag...
Must say, not a great look and super hot and sweaty to wear a mask, hope this trend fades away like a pet rock fad.
Sadly 14 people died here in Hungary yesterday from the C19.
Heard this thing is suppose to reach it's nasty peak within the next 2 weeks.Let's just get it down and over with.

In Irish COVID19 news....we've clearly forgotten about COVIDs 1-18....

COVID1-18

Maybe the guy is looking for a job with the Trump Administration.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

....He said his son was robbed in the US by several men at once, his son knew karate but was outnumbered. It was at a gas station, we told him, our son was also robbed at a gas station in the US.
Funny how much people really have in common...
.....
I  put on a mask , for the first time to enter the farmers market, no biggie, I made one out of a scarf, my scarf is covered in a chilli pepper print, It is red, white and green.Just like the Hungarian flag........

Not really something anyone wants in common with each other - being robbed in US gas stations or robbed anywhere. 

Not quite as patriotic for Hungary but I quite like the idea of a Red Hot Chilli Peppers mask.   The Fluffyettes have ones that make them look like bears.  Mrs Fluffy's has an apple on it. 

I wonder if there are any really bling'd up ones selling in Beverley Hills?

I saw an article online from Thailand that predicted a return to normal air traffic would be October 2021!!  That's forever!  It's as though 2020 never happened.  Maybe we should just roll over to 2020 again next year.

Strange times.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

No seriously, people here are being very respectful of the rules for the most part.

Really? Not fully my experience.

Local town mayor said anyone in a store must wear a mask.

I think about half of the people are wearing a mask in stores..... And not even all the store owners are wearing masks. Including the bread store, which I think would be the most important place to wear a mask.....

Of course, that could be a break down in communication. Which is a problem in Hungary since I have lived here. But it may become a real problem in a pandemic. Just saying....

canstey wrote:

No way on earth would I return to the UK. It’s a complete shambles. The Hungarians on the other hand have and are handling this crisis exceptionally well. It’s a nation that still remembers hard times and knows how to get through them. Very disappointed that the EU has dared to criticise their Prime minister. With this pandemic results count, so politics can be left for latter.

Based on what information and information sources?

Your first and only post here by the way. Care to enter an actual discussion? Or was that just a trollish comment?

Side note: You don't speak Hungarian, do you?

Else, you be able to read Hungarian, non-EU sources, such as the Mayor of Budapest's Facebook account, that could highlight issues of the government's response.... Maybe at their peril. Since criticizing the government's handling of this issue now can lead to a 1 to 5 year prison sentence....  And that alone says a lot. 

fluffy2560 wrote:

In Irish COVID19 news....we've clearly forgotten about COVIDs 1-18....

COVID1-18

Maybe the guy is looking for a job with the Trump Administration.

Oh.... My.... God.....

And he is the Minister of Health?

fluffy2560 wrote:

In Irish COVID19 news....we've clearly forgotten about COVIDs 1-18....

COVID1-18

Maybe the guy is looking for a job with the Trump Administration.

Apparently the source for this was indeed from Donald's Administration:

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/04/ke … ay-covid-1

Does not excuse the Irish Minister Of Health for being a complete, utter and total tool and idiot if it is correct that he actually said this.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

In Irish COVID19 news....we've clearly forgotten about COVIDs 1-18....

COVID1-18

Maybe the guy is looking for a job with the Trump Administration.

Apparently the source for this was indeed from Donald's Administration:

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/04/ke … ay-covid-1

Does not excuse the Irish Minister Of Health for being a complete, utter and total tool and idiot if it is correct that he actually said this.

Yes, looks like it was Fox News and an appearance by Kellyanne Conway who suggested if they knew about COVID-1 then they should have got their act together for COVID-19 and therefore DT should cut off WHO funding for not tackling COVIDs 1 to 18.

Other correspondents have said the Irish Health Minister's wife is a nurse which therefore qualifies him to be the Minister of Health.  It's qualification by association!  I am just wondering how I can exploit that to make myself qualified for something interesting. 

There must be something in it if DT can hire people who are quite obviously out of touch with reality, e.g. Kellyanne Conway.    But maybe it's like DT being able to shoot someone in the street and still win an election.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Other correspondents have said the Irish Health Minister's wife is a nurse which therefore qualifies him to be the Minister of Health.  It's qualification by association!  I am just wondering how I can exploit that to make myself qualified for something interesting.  .

Well let me think....

You have an American car which you work on.
So you know about American cars.
And if you know about American cars, you must know about the American Auto industry.
So you should be the chairman of board at GM....

And that was only four degrees of separation..... So your experience must be golden.... Compared to Kellyanne Conway at least.... Works for me.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Other correspondents have said the Irish Health Minister's wife is a nurse which therefore qualifies him to be the Minister of Health.  It's qualification by association!  I am just wondering how I can exploit that to make myself qualified for something interesting.  .

Well let me think....

You have an American car which you work on.
So you know about American cars.
And if you know about American cars, you must know about the American Auto industry.
So you should be the chairman of board at GM....

And that was only four degrees of separation..... So your experience must be golden.... Compared to Kellyanne Conway at least.... Works for me.

I'll take it!  Woo-Hoo...chairman of GM.....sweet!

Six degrees of separation?  Doesn't that mean we've come full circle to Kevin Bacon again if Kev drives American?

Anyway, I've seen Kevin Bacon in movies and by association I'm now so close to Kevin Bacon I might actually be merging with the Baconmeister. 

Next stop world domination and free Bacon for everyone! Yay!

Hungary: Nationwide lockdown measures extended until 3 May

As of 23 April 2020 authorities have extended nationwide lockdown measures due to the global coronavirus outbreak. The lockdown will now be in effect until least 3 May.

I gave the topic quite some thought and indeed in a way I am egocentric, nevertheless I stand with my approach. Perhaps the supply situation is different in other locations, but when buying 100 bottles of water in ALDI it is of course a lot, but when I was there, there were at least 600 on display (I have no clue how much more they have in storage in their storage hall).
Of course by buying the full supply I would deprive others of their opportunities, however in my defense I would like to say, if all would go shopping once per 6 weeks, the Corona would have little chance (the challenge of course being timing of the visits). Also if I would have less chance to infect others.

In any case I have limited chance of infecting others (although it happens when visiting supermarkets and pharmacies (good rule by the way in Heviz (just one at the time))
Supermarkets to me are the most dangerous places around (provided you adhere to rules in general). Me and my wife do not like the curfew at all (but we adhere), and I am sorry I have a luxury situation. (By the way there was a remark on the vegetable garden (and storage or not as the case might be; I expect that there is no need to buy any garlic, onions, potatoes, (fruits I do not like, but also strawberries, blackberries, cherries, apples (later), peaches, ..). Tomatoes and others will also come later.

As for eg wine, yes it is decadent, but too much thinking in these times also can make you depressive (apart from my toothache I am now quite happy).

My message (which aligns I think with City Halls (perhaps not everywhere)), go outside as little as possible, not go 4 times per week or so, but once per month is the best I think. (sorry if I can afford to drink wine, smoke, drink whiskey, eat meat as much as I like, but it also helps the economy).

One last observation, restaurants start to do home deliveries and so are one or two butchers. (we intend to use these services (even if these could be considered as decadent).

Just a reply to a prior post and perhaps I am kicked out of the forum, but views are there and all of them have pluses and minuses.
Sorry to take such a long time to respond, but having thought things over, comments placed vs me might be justified, but again pluses minuses

Additional remark, not linked to me being crushed, but more on what Hungary (or village in our case) does. Visiting to elderly people are to be limited or even prohibited, nevertheless people of 80+ (in practice even 70+) can get REAL support, meals, injections (Insuline), a small talk, washing, cleaning etc,
This is not because they are rich (having said that you have to pay HUF 800 per day if you can (I must say I do not know what happens if you can not).
But even in Hungary I think that is a very reasonable price for the package. Some of the elderly almost get crazy, but being visited once or twice per day is not too bad (even if not friends or family).

Many comments can be made vs Hungary, but I am impressed. (some of the people impacted do not even speak Hungarian).

The Moron-in-Chief has done it this time:

Trump appears to encourage people to probably kill themselves injecting disinfectant or exposing themselves to high power UV

It's pretty high ranking in stupid  Trumpisms - lethal gibberish. 

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?

....So it'd be interesting to check that......

Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

Yup, Donny, we know what.

Can anyone confirm that under current restrictions (1) a Hungarian citizen can enter Hungary bringing a US citizen spouse (who is non-resident) to their Budapest-owned apartment for a 2 month visit and (2) if not, when that would be possible? This of course assumes there will be airlines flying into Budapest airport.

There doesn't seem to be much info on the web (http://www.police.hu/hu/hirek-es-inform … arorszagra), she should call the police and ask them...

Probarllc wrote:

Can anyone confirm that under current restrictions (1) a Hungarian citizen can enter Hungary bringing a US citizen spouse (who is non-resident) to their Budapest-owned apartment for a 2 month visit and (2) if not, when that would be possible? This of course assumes there will be airlines flying into Budapest airport.

When you say spouse do you mean married or just cohabiting? If you are married then you will have proof of your spouse being your dependent rather than just a friend.  According to my own Embassy (UK, not US) then yes, you can bring them.  They have to be in home quarantine for 14 days.

But don't take my word for it, ask the HU or maybe the US Embassy - there's a web site here for HU: koronavirus.gov.hu (in Hungarian) - clicking on the EN version takes you to a government news site and is useless for real info.

Hungary: Authorities to mandate face coverings in public spaces nationwide


Beginning on 4 May 2020 authorities will require people to cover their faces in public due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. All individuals must wear a face mask or other face covering garment in stores, taxis and on public transportation to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

The mandate comes amid the reopening of several businesses and services in areas excluding the capital Budapest*. More than 2,900 cases of the coronavirus have been identified in country. Additional measures could be implemented in the near term.

*original note does not include Pest County but the same restrictions apply there was well as Budapest.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Hungary: Authorities to mandate face coverings in public spaces nationwide


Beginning on 4 May 2020 authorities will require people to cover their faces in public due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. All individuals must wear a face mask or other face covering garment in stores, taxis and on public transportation to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

This has been in effect in BP for about a week now.

atomheart wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Hungary: Authorities to mandate face coverings in public spaces nationwide


Beginning on 4 May 2020 authorities will require people to cover their faces in public due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. All individuals must wear a face mask or other face covering garment in stores, taxis and on public transportation to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

This has been in effect in BP for about a week now.

This must be linked to the relaxations of restrictions outside of BP and Pest. 

BTW, Mrs Fluffy says we're not allowed to leave Pest county now without a good reason.

I was in South Balaton near Zamardi yesterday and the majority of people were not wearing masks (we had a good reason to be out of Pest County).   Some cafes, supermarkets and bars were open.

atomheart wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Hungary: Authorities to mandate face coverings in public spaces nationwide


Beginning on 4 May 2020 authorities will require people to cover their faces in public due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. All individuals must wear a face mask or other face covering garment in stores, taxis and on public transportation to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

This has been in effect in BP for about a week now.

Mr Fluffy did say nationwide. So still a very post although some might not adhere to it.

fluffy2560 wrote:

atomheart wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Hungary: Authorities to mandate face coverings in public spaces nationwide


Beginning on 4 May 2020 authorities will require people to cover their faces in public due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. All individuals must wear a face mask or other face covering garment in stores, taxis and on public transportation to prevent further spread of the coronavirus.

This has been in effect in BP for about a week now.

This must be linked to the relaxations of restrictions outside of BP and Pest. 

BTW, Mrs Fluffy says we're not allowed to leave Pest county now without a good reason.

I was in South Balaton near Zamardi yesterday and the majority of people were not wearing masks (we had a good reason to be out of Pest County).   Some cafes, supermarkets and bars were open.

Are there fines in place, do you know Fluffy if those that do not comply?

I do not know if wearing face masks in public is mandatory everywhere, last Wednesday I wore one when going to the dentist (another story further below). But in Heviz (where my dentist is) hardly anyone wore a facemask (people were really staring at me (mostly workmen repairing/improving pavements).

I made an appointment with a dentist for a root-canal treatment but when I arrived, staff did not know about the appointment, but after calling this was cleared. However, root-canal is not considered an  emergency and was shifted into next week (the dentist will have covid-19 tests by then), corona tests are mandatory by then and only if you are negative you can be treated (I assume I will be negative and fine, but I can imagine what will happen to you (or not) if you are positive).
A lot of pain over the last week although pain killers can help a bit,

As mentioned before I try to go out as little as possible (current scheme is just pharmacy, supermarket once per 6 weeks, and in this case dentist). I am happy that dentists are open again (not always easy to assess what is an emergency or not).

Personally I think people start to feel more relaxed, but in my view the worst is still to come (Sept/Oct). Another full lockdown in the anticipation of a vaccine. By that time well over 1 million people in Hungary could be infected and necessary activities will even be more dangereous. (please recall the post by then)

I have to stress that I think that the government is not doing a bad job in finding a balance (especially working on infrastructure is a good thing for Hungary (and I believe you can keep a distance), however many people still ignore a bit the seriousness and do not adhere to rules.

Last remark if all would go shopping just once per 2 weeks it would already help, another thing is many home deliveries are popping up (unfortunately no supermarkets yet in my area), but butchers and restaurants are.
Many people are in a bad, bad situation and will be for many months to come, some of the forum readers are relatively wealthy and can support, either by giving food (or presents) from time to time to the very old, or assign jobs (outside) to the younger ones, small repairs, garden etc (But not so easy). We intend not to let ANYONE in our house until the end of the year unless absolutely necessary. Example if the boiler is broken we will probably switch to wood heating during winter.

SimCityAT wrote:

.....Are there fines in place, do you know Fluffy if those that do not comply?

I have no idea.  We saw plenty of cop cars but they ignored us.  They could obviously tell where we were from using a lookup on our number plates. 

I think perhaps 1 in 10 people had a mask on in the place we went.  We felt rather unusual wearing masks. 

We went in the McD drive-in when we passed Siofok and it was mostly masks.  Probably a difference between the urban areas and countryside.

Didn't see anyone being stopped or anything like that.  Traffic was very light considering it was a holiday weekend.

fluffy2560 wrote:

I was in South Balaton near Zamardi yesterday and the majority of people were not wearing masks (we had a good reason to be out of Pest County).

What was your "good reason"?

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

I was in South Balaton near Zamardi yesterday and the majority of people were not wearing masks (we had a good reason to be out of Pest County).

What was your "good reason"?

Trial by expat.com eh?

We had to go and check on a water leak and plumbing problem at the Mrs Fluffy family holiday house.

It's a fair cop guvnor but society is to blame.

I am afraid this topic may run longer then our ,"everything else" long line of remarks.
Hope not, can't wait for this all to be over and totally done with!
We were wanting to check out some property near Balaton but seems that has to be placed on hold for now, If summer comes and goes before we can look at places we may just give up on the whole thing.
My husband threw me into a mini-panic attack this morning after he read the latest news.
Seems for the next 2 weeks from May 1 to the 14th they will "randomly" call or write people to come in for "free" to get a C19 test.
No think you , mame!
They said it is all on a Volunteer base. Well mama warned me to never volunteer for anything.
Can just imagine them dragging you in every month for the next decade to see how ya doin"..
I used to give blood to the Red Cross because a family friend needed transfusions due to cancer. Once this elderly man passed the Red Cross was calling me all the time and guilt trippin' me. I have a semi-rare blood type and it was we need your blood for premmie babies, we need it for an accident case.
They would of drained me dry if I volunteered.
As it was my husband put a stop to it. He told them rightfully that we had no health coverage of our own and if I needed my own blood back how much were they going to charge me per unit?
In any case what right does any gov. have to force people into doing testing?
They can always start with their own family members if things are really on the up and up.
I have a sinking feeling sooner or later we will all need testing before being allowed to ever board another flight to anywhere.
I'm not against  being safe but very against being forced to do anything for my own good.
Right now to see the dentist with TAJ card, you need to make an appointment then they will test for C 19 and then give you an appointment if you get the all clear.
I told my husband to get a pair of pliers ready just in case we need some home dental treatments!
With my "luck" I'll probably win the C19- testing lottery!
In the mean time we walked for some exercise today to the city park, stayed far away from everyone, did some grounding, took off my shoes and laid on the grass for a bit, hugged a few more trees too.
Was a lot more people in the park today then there were on Friday. Almost got hit by a biker going fast through the shadows of the trees, guess things haven't changed all that much then, bikers are more dangerous then a virus for me.