astrazenica vaccine query

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ckitano wrote:

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References, please, otherwise this is just anecdotal and worthless for the general public.

It causes thrombosis.
Especially in young women.

Erikji wrote:

It causes thrombosis.
Especially in young women.

Again, please include references.  Your "saying so" is not enough for many expats.  Also, I have read about that and the incidence as I remember is very low.

Not trusting you to look it up, I took 30 seconds to find this: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meeti … ro-508.pdflink to reference

which states 86 people out of 25 million vaccinations had this complication.  Most were women under 60 (not too young) after two weeks.

Travelfar wrote:

Erikji wrote:

It causes thrombosis.
Especially in young women.

Again, please include references.  Your "saying so" is not enough for many expats.  Also, I have read about that and the incidence as I remember is very low.

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

I have had Astra, so have all my Family and friends in UK. no problems at all. Astra has been a Victim of politics (EU) and competitors as Astra sell at cost and others are making profits. latest independent research published last week has found it is same risk level as other makes in reality almost zero. (not including Sino or Sputnik). bottom line is its your choice

goodolboy wrote:

Travelfar wrote:

Erikji wrote:

It causes thrombosis.
Especially in young women.

Again, please include references.  Your "saying so" is not enough for many expats.  Also, I have read about that and the incidence as I remember is very low.

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

stevescoots wrote:

I have had Astra, so have all my Family and friends in UK. no problems at all. Astra has been a Victim of politics (EU) and competitors as Astra sell at cost and others are making profits. latest independent research published last week has found it is same risk level as other makes in reality almost zero. (not including Sino or Sputnik). bottom line is its your choice

As I posted previously & agree with your post 100% the UK gov was the major financial backer on the development of the Astra vaccine & coming to market as it did at the height of Brexit & the immediate uptake on it by the UK citizens it stuck in the throats of some of the EU leaders (not all) but especially the French who could not or did not have the technology or their government leadership to do it themselves.
Its a disgrace that a vaccine that has been produced with the best of intentions to save lives & at a cost that even poor countries can afford has been stigmatised like this & muck sticks as they say & that's been proven with stocks of perfectly good Astra vaccine sitting in some EU fridge never to be used & now passed its use by date & OK they did not want to use it so pass it on to some countries that would gladly use it.

If they dont vaccinate expats it would be bad for diplomatic relations, considering VN people are being vaccinated in other countries.

Andybris2020 wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

Travelfar wrote:

Again, please include references.  Your "saying so" is not enough for many expats.  Also, I have read about that and the incidence as I remember is very low.

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

I already registered but not on line.
About a week ago they requested all residents of Celadon City over 65 to go to the management office for registration. Ms My went with my PP & did it all for me & I would not mind betting they checked I was legally registered as living in there which I am.
On Friday all residents between the age of 18 & 64 were requested to go & register at the management office. 
From the residents group here on FB (not officially I emphasise) over 65's will be given the choice between Moderna & Astra.

Just take whatever you get offered, you will never know when you will a second choice
I got the AZ

Btw AZ it is not approved in my home country

andlum777 wrote:

astrazenica vaccine being rolled out to some schools-any thoughts on it-have heard dubious side effects.

AstraZeneca is forbidden in France for people under 55, forbidden in the UK for people under 40, stopped totally in some countries like Switzerland, I think that answers your question.

There has been some concerns over the age group for Astra Zeneca vaccine where even the UK government had concerns about younger age groups receiving this one..  but realistically who if offered it are going to turn it down?

And if you don't take this one.. what then wait for Sputnik😮

In all likelihood every version has its potential risk s and side effects.

Obviously it would be better to prevent rather than treat, pumping your body full of drugs should be a last resort.

Erikji wrote:

andlum777 wrote:

astrazenica vaccine being rolled out to some schools-any thoughts on it-have heard dubious side effects.

AstraZeneca is forbidden in France for people under 55, forbidden in the UK for people under 40, stopped totally in some countries like Switzerland, I think that answers your question.

That's the same with a lot of drugs. Someone I know back home has to take amlodipine for their blood pressure... Same Drug in the Netherlands is only for use on animals...


Furosemide the same, supposed to help people with fluid buildup in the chest cavity.. banned in a lot of places too and yet is very common

Jlgarbutt wrote:

And if you don't take this one.. what then wait for Sputnik😮

Vietnam has received also Sinopharm and Moderna.
But you don't know before which vaccine they will inject you, it's the surprise.

Sinopharm and Sputnik are maybe less efficient, but they are more safe because they use the old classic well-known technology.

Andybris2020 wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

Travelfar wrote:

Again, please include references.  Your "saying so" is not enough for many expats.  Also, I have read about that and the incidence as I remember is very low.

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

will be interesting to see how they police it bearing in mind the number of other dodgy goings on that fly under the very noses of those enforcing the rules.

I wish they would do something about policing people walking around store.. pick their nose then have a feel of squeeze of fruit and veggies.. eeuuurggh

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

will be interesting to see how they police it bearing in mind the number of other dodgy goings on that fly under the very noses of those enforcing the rules.

I wish they would do something about policing people walking around store.. pick their nose then have a feel of squeeze of fruit and veggies.. eeuuurggh

UPDATE: she just got this info from the local ward (Phu Nhuan)
"NOTICE ON VACCINE AGAINST COVID-19 (EVERY 1) FOR PEOPLE AGE 18 TO BELOW 65 YEARS IN WARD 5, PHU NHUAN DISTRICT:
🌸 Ward 5 Covid-19 Prevention and Control Steering Committee will organize a vaccination against Covid-19 for citizens from 18 years old to BELOW 65 years old who are permanently and temporarily residing in the ward.
🌸 The injection site is at Cao Ba Quat Primary School (92 Phan Dang Luu), morning 8:00-12:00, afternoon 14:00-17:00, starting from August 2, 2021 until the allotted amount of vaccine is used up.
🌸 Citizens will be notified by text message detailing the time and location when it is their turn to inject in order to fully participate, on time, ensuring that there are no crowds at the same time.
🌸 When going for injection, please bring your ID/CCCD, health insurance card (if any). Individuals undergoing medical treatment please bring prescriptions or medical records. Women who are pregnant and breastfeeding should consider this before applying for injections. Before going in for injection, the doctor will do a health check before the injection to determine if it is possible to inject and will announce which vaccine will be injected.
⚠ Faced with the current complicated disease situation, people should be fully vaccinated if it is their turn to inject, and should not choose any vaccine because the vaccines used have all passed the medical examination, ensure the health and safety of the person receiving the injection.
⚠ People are requested to access the link provided by the Ward People's Committee to register for injections. (Individuals who have already registered, please do not re-register)
⚠ While waiting for the injection, people should maintain good health, minimize going out of the house when not absolutely necessary, strictly follow the Government's Directive 16 "person apart, house apart from home, Who is there?" F0 cases and people in temporary blockade areas will postpone vaccination until a vaccination schedule is available for these subjects.
Source: Nguyen Vi Huu Canh"

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

He should have said...................it has been known to cause thrombosis especially in young women & even then the % is very low & even then the data is not set in stone because in UK more women than men have had the vaccine .

All my family & friends over the age of 30 back in Scotland have been vaccinated with the Astra vaccine at total of more than 50 people & not one has had a bad reaction to it & have not even heard of anyone dying from it. However the UK government have now restricted/recommended its use to people over the age of 30.
In my opinion Astra suffered from coming to market at the same time as Brexit & suffered bad press especially from the French who historically are anti vaccine & anti English anyways.
I personally cant wait to get the Astra jab be it from the Vietnamese program for over 65's or paying for it privately if or when it becomes available here.




https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl … lood-clots

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

will be interesting to see how they police it bearing in mind the number of other dodgy goings on that fly under the very noses of those enforcing the rules.

I wish they would do something about policing people walking around store.. pick their nose then have a feel of squeeze of fruit and veggies.. eeuuurggh

picking their nose is the least of your worries mate!!

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Erikji wrote:

andlum777 wrote:

astrazenica vaccine being rolled out to some schools-any thoughts on it-have heard dubious side effects.

AstraZeneca is forbidden in France for people under 55, forbidden in the UK for people under 40, stopped totally in some countries like Switzerland, I think that answers your question.

That's the same with a lot of drugs. Someone I know back home has to take amlodipine for their blood pressure... Same Drug in the Netherlands is only for use on animals...


Furosemide the same, supposed to help people with fluid buildup in the chest cavity.. banned in a lot of places too and yet is very common

Really! omg I take Furosemine 40mg daily

Andybris2020 wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Erikji wrote:

AstraZeneca is forbidden in France for people under 55, forbidden in the UK for people under 40, stopped totally in some countries like Switzerland, I think that answers your question.

That's the same with a lot of drugs. Someone I know back home has to take amlodipine for their blood pressure... Same Drug in the Netherlands is only for use on animals...


Furosemide the same, supposed to help people with fluid buildup in the chest cavity.. banned in a lot of places too and yet is very common

Really! omg I take Furosemine 40mg daily

I'm hoping you have been taking for s long time and have had no side effects.. if that's the case you should be fine

Andybris2020 wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

will be interesting to see how they police it bearing in mind the number of other dodgy goings on that fly under the very noses of those enforcing the rules.

I wish they would do something about policing people walking around store.. pick their nose then have a feel of squeeze of fruit and veggies.. eeuuurggh

UPDATE: she just got this info from the local ward (Phu Nhuan)
"NOTICE ON VACCINE AGAINST COVID-19 (EVERY 1) FOR PEOPLE AGE 18 TO BELOW 65 YEARS IN WARD 5, PHU NHUAN DISTRICT:
🌸 Ward 5 Covid-19 Prevention and Control Steering Committee will organize a vaccination against Covid-19 for citizens from 18 years old to BELOW 65 years old who are permanently and temporarily residing in the ward.
🌸 The injection site is at Cao Ba Quat Primary School (92 Phan Dang Luu), morning 8:00-12:00, afternoon 14:00-17:00, starting from August 2, 2021 until the allotted amount of vaccine is used up.
🌸 Citizens will be notified by text message detailing the time and location when it is their turn to inject in order to fully participate, on time, ensuring that there are no crowds at the same time.
🌸 When going for injection, please bring your ID/CCCD, health insurance card (if any). Individuals undergoing medical treatment please bring prescriptions or medical records. Women who are pregnant and breastfeeding should consider this before applying for injections. Before going in for injection, the doctor will do a health check before the injection to determine if it is possible to inject and will announce which vaccine will be injected.
⚠ Faced with the current complicated disease situation, people should be fully vaccinated if it is their turn to inject, and should not choose any vaccine because the vaccines used have all passed the medical examination, ensure the health and safety of the person receiving the injection.
⚠ People are requested to access the link provided by the Ward People's Committee to register for injections. (Individuals who have already registered, please do not re-register)
⚠ While waiting for the injection, people should maintain good health, minimize going out of the house when not absolutely necessary, strictly follow the Government's Directive 16 "person apart, house apart from home, Who is there?" F0 cases and people in temporary blockade areas will postpone vaccination until a vaccination schedule is available for these subjects.
Source: Nguyen Vi Huu Canh"

All good news.. a positive for anyone with deep rooted worries.

I like the EVERY 1 part.. then later until supplies run out. Hopefully they omitted the elderly or high risk will be given preferential or priority treatment

Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

Looks like her sister got it wrong, Good ol US of A

USAID Vietnam
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📣📣📣 The Department of Health has just made a decision on allocating 3.000.060 doses of US-sponsored #Moderna vaccine.
Vietnam’s Ministry of Health has just announced the distribution plan for the 3,000,060 Moderna vaccine doses donated by the United States. 🇺🇸🤝🇻🇳
⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️
According to Government Information:
Deputy Minister of Health Truong Quoc Cuong has signed the decision to allocate 3.000.060 doses of Moderna vaccine to local and unit. This is the 14. th COVID-19 vaccine allocation. This vaccine was supported by the U.S. Government through COVAX mechanism on 24 and 25/7.
During this allocation, 20 provinces received 1.363.880 doses, Ho Chi Minh City had 336.000 doses, the most in the country. The provinces of Kien Giang, Binh Duong, Dong Nai, each province receive 84.000 doses; the provinces of Tien Giang and Kien Giang, each province receive 73.920 doses; the provinces of Dong Thap and Long An, each province ; Can Tho provinces and Ba Ria-Vung Tau, each province has 58.800 doses; Vinh Long and Tay Ninh provinces, each province receives 50.400 doses; Hau Giang provinces, Bac Loc, Binh Phuong, Ca Mau, Soc Trang, Lam Dong, each province receives 33.600 doses.
11 central provinces received 309.120 doses, which Khanh Hoa the most with 42.000 doses; Da Nang, Phu Yen, Binh Dinh, Quang Nam, each province received 33.600 doses; Quang Ngai 31.920 ; Thua Thien Hue and Binh Thuan, each province takes 26.880 doses; Quang Binh receives 18.480 doses; Quang Tri receives 15.120 doses; Ninh Thuan receives 13.440 doses

goodolboy wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

Ive just been told by my GF that they will police people who not had vaccine and pass covid on to others,, translation is a bit fuzzy when I asked the time frame to get a vaccine or be fined,,,,, she said that now they will vaccine everyone so maybe seeing your in HCMC you can now get it? The online site for booking a vaccine has passport and a menu for countries so maybe they are doing non-Vietnamese now they are pushing to get as many done while they have the vaccines? she did say that Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

will be interesting to see how they police it bearing in mind the number of other dodgy goings on that fly under the very noses of those enforcing the rules.

I wish they would do something about policing people walking around store.. pick their nose then have a feel of squeeze of fruit and veggies.. eeuuurggh

She also just me this translation from website
"The city will carry out vaccination for people aged 18 and over, regardless of subjects.  The policy of the city will not distinguish between permanent residence or temporary residence, just residing in the city will be vaccinated."

So go on facebook search "I'm from *** insert your district" find the post for NOTICE ON VACCINE AGAINST COVID-19 there will a link for your ward click on it and fill in the form to book they will contact you when you go, info for us said they will pick the vaccine best for you (obviously if they have more than one lol)

goodolboy wrote:

Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

Looks like her sister got it wrong, Good ol US of A

USAID Vietnam
e3l0 gJfutly hSipoaenssatcaou rhetd13m:d5o2  ·


📣📣📣 The Department of Health has just made a decision on allocating 3.000.060 doses of US-sponsored #Moderna vaccine.
Vietnam’s Ministry of Health has just announced the distribution plan for the 3,000,060 Moderna vaccine doses donated by the United States. 🇺🇸🤝🇻🇳
⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️
According to Government Information:
Deputy Minister of Health Truong Quoc Cuong has signed the decision to allocate 3.000.060 doses of Moderna vaccine to local and unit. This is the 14. th COVID-19 vaccine allocation. This vaccine was supported by the U.S. Government through COVAX mechanism on 24 and 25/7.
During this allocation, 20 provinces received 1.363.880 doses, Ho Chi Minh City had 336.000 doses, the most in the country. The provinces of Kien Giang, Binh Duong, Dong Nai, each province receive 84.000 doses; the provinces of Tien Giang and Kien Giang, each province receive 73.920 doses; the provinces of Dong Thap and Long An, each province ; Can Tho provinces and Ba Ria-Vung Tau, each province has 58.800 doses; Vinh Long and Tay Ninh provinces, each province receives 50.400 doses; Hau Giang provinces, Bac Loc, Binh Phuong, Ca Mau, Soc Trang, Lam Dong, each province receives 33.600 doses.
11 central provinces received 309.120 doses, which Khanh Hoa the most with 42.000 doses; Da Nang, Phu Yen, Binh Dinh, Quang Nam, each province received 33.600 doses; Quang Ngai 31.920 ; Thua Thien Hue and Binh Thuan, each province takes 26.880 doses; Quang Binh receives 18.480 doses; Quang Tri receives 15.120 doses; Ninh Thuan receives 13.440 doses

She was told at the place where she had vaccine done last night in Tan Binh ward 1 they only had 1 choice China, you can say no and go later when they have different vaccine she said, but she "just got it over with", maybe they ran out of the alloted does for her vaccine station?

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid … lood-clots

The European Medicines Agency reported around 20 million people in the UK and EEA had received the vaccine as of March 16 and EMA had found only 7 cases of blood clots in multiple blood vessels (disseminated intravascular coagulation, DIC) and 18 cases of CVST. A causal link with the vaccine is not proven, but is possible.

The Astra vaccination has been politicised : see https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 … r-disaster

colinoscapee wrote:

If they dont vaccinate expats it would be bad for diplomatic relations, considering VN people are being vaccinated in other countries.

According to the most recent decision made in Saigon, all categories are erased and everyone will be vaccinated as soon as each district is ready (they call it self vaccinated). 

"The mission is to organize the vaccinations smoothly with the highest possible speed while keeping it safe without violating Directive 16.  There will be two vaccination sessions each day, 3 (after 6pm) if possible.

If there was a regulation on priority subjects before, now all city people have the opportunity to get vaccinated equally."

Andybris2020 wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

Hanoi has a choice of which vaccine but HCMC only had the China vaccine (this is what she was told by her sister who had it last night - not confirmed if there is a choice depending where you go to get it done).

Looks like her sister got it wrong, Good ol US of A

USAID Vietnam
e3l0 gJfutly hSipoaenssatcaou rhetd13m:d5o2  ·


📣📣📣 The Department of Health has just made a decision on allocating 3.000.060 doses of US-sponsored #Moderna vaccine.
Vietnam’s Ministry of Health has just announced the distribution plan for the 3,000,060 Moderna vaccine doses donated by the United States. 🇺🇸🤝🇻🇳
⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️
According to Government Information:
Deputy Minister of Health Truong Quoc Cuong has signed the decision to allocate 3.000.060 doses of Moderna vaccine to local and unit. This is the 14. th COVID-19 vaccine allocation. This vaccine was supported by the U.S. Government through COVAX mechanism on 24 and 25/7.
During this allocation, 20 provinces received 1.363.880 doses, Ho Chi Minh City had 336.000 doses, the most in the country. The provinces of Kien Giang, Binh Duong, Dong Nai, each province receive 84.000 doses; the provinces of Tien Giang and Kien Giang, each province receive 73.920 doses; the provinces of Dong Thap and Long An, each province ; Can Tho provinces and Ba Ria-Vung Tau, each province has 58.800 doses; Vinh Long and Tay Ninh provinces, each province receives 50.400 doses; Hau Giang provinces, Bac Loc, Binh Phuong, Ca Mau, Soc Trang, Lam Dong, each province receives 33.600 doses.
11 central provinces received 309.120 doses, which Khanh Hoa the most with 42.000 doses; Da Nang, Phu Yen, Binh Dinh, Quang Nam, each province received 33.600 doses; Quang Ngai 31.920 ; Thua Thien Hue and Binh Thuan, each province takes 26.880 doses; Quang Binh receives 18.480 doses; Quang Tri receives 15.120 doses; Ninh Thuan receives 13.440 doses

She was told at the place where she had vaccine done last night in Tan Binh ward 1 they only had 1 choice China, you can say no and go later when they have different vaccine she said, but she "just got it over with", maybe they ran out of the alloted does for her vaccine station?

In saying that my mate & all my old workmates in the office Dubai have had the Sinovac 2 shots & none of them had a problem. Dont know how effective it is though & having it wont get you into UK or US on a vaccine PP I would suspect if they ever come to making that mandatory.

My ward in Go Vap got vaccinated with Astrazenaca today, including my wife and myself.  There were no issues with me being a foreigner.  There was no choice of vaccine.

With regards to side effects, here's something from the Australian Department of Health with estimates of blood clot risk per 100,000 people:

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-a … lood-clots

Something from the NHS: "For people under 40 without underlying health conditions, it's currently advised that it's preferable to have another coronavirus vaccine instead of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. 

If you have already had a first dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine without suffering any serious side effects you should complete the course (unless there is a medical reason for you not to have the same vaccine).

This includes people aged 18 to 39 years who are health and social care workers, unpaid carers and household contacts of those who are severely immunosuppressed."

https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vac … s-vaccines

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

goodolboy wrote:

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

Jlgarbutt wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

Maybe the Chinese one is ok. It seems they must have had plenty in stock, as they are saying they have vaccinated over a billion people.

colinoscapee wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

Maybe the Chinese one is ok. It seems they must have had plenty in stock, as they are saying they have vaccinated over a billion people.

1 billion in China or in the world?

goodolboy wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

Maybe the Chinese one is ok. It seems they must have had plenty in stock, as they are saying they have vaccinated over a billion people.

1 billion in China or in the world?

In China.

Jlgarbutt wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

From video's I've seen the China is built on old proven tech but less cover than the modern Mrna type which have higher cover rates.

There is huge marketing over which is best and a lot of differing info coming from all sides, there is billions of dollars at stake as to how many of which vaccine is sold, the sad part for us minions is what is "science" and what is "marketing".

If your in the high risk group and life or death if you get covid then are you going to say no and hope your still alive when you get offered a different vaccine?

If your in the low risk group then take what you can and if you can mix and match next time then maybe you have the choice of a better one then.

Ive seen numbers for them like these:-
Pfizer mRNA 2x shot 90-95%  USA/GERMANY
Moderna mRNA 2x shot 90-95% USA
J&J Viral Vector 1x shot 70-85% USA/BELGIUM
Astrazenica Viral Vector 2x shot 70-90% USA/SWEDEN
Sputnik V Viral Vector 2x shot 85-90% RUSSIA
Sinovac/Corona Vac Inactived Virus 2x shot 67-75% CHINA
Novax Protein Based 2x shot 85-89% USA
Covaxin Inactivated Virus 2x shot 70-80% INDIA

colinoscapee wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

As a matter of interest.................if you get the call to go to get vaccinated, how many expats on the forum would accept the China or Sputnik vaccine if that was all that was on offer?

Im my opinion id prefer a one of the western versions.. but im suee you wont even know until its done.

Surely the chinese one is the best 😉 must have come from the sams labs as covid itself

Maybe the Chinese one is ok. It seems they must have had plenty in stock, as they are saying they have vaccinated over a billion people.

I think the vacciine being based on inactivated virus tech is maybe safer for side effects but may not give as much as some of the others, but if as some say vaccine or die then get what you can.

In the UK with high numbers already receiving their double dose of the vaccine talk has turned to when the booster shot will begin and who gets priority.

Jlgarbutt wrote:

In the UK with high numbers already receiving their double dose of the vaccine talk has turned to when the booster shot will begin and who gets priority.

Germany giving boosters already

goodolboy wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

In the UK with high numbers already receiving their double dose of the vaccine talk has turned to when the booster shot will begin and who gets priority.

Germany giving boosters already

Israel too.

goodolboy wrote:

1 billion in China or in the world?

According to their announcement, more than one billion doses or half a billion Chinese in China, 40% of the population, have been vaccinated. 

Seeing that China is the birthplace of Covid and there are more than 1.4 billion Chinese living on top of one another, it's astonishing to read that there are only 93,193 Covid cases and 4,636 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. (Source: Statistics)