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The driving force of your expatriation in Ecuador

Last activity 18 June 2022 by RobinJoel

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Diksha

Hello everybody,

Moving abroad, to a destination such as Ecuador, is often the result of careful consideration. It is a major life decision and one that should not be taken lightly as the implications are so diverse. We would like to know what motivated you to choose Ecuador as your expatriation destination.

What was the main factor that led you to choose Ecuador as your new home?

What were the other criteria that made Ecuador your preferred destination?

Are you satisfied with your choice? Please, tell us why.

Did you have any other good surprises when you arrived or any disappointments?

Have your priorities changed in the current period? If so, did this play a role in your choice of destination or in the reconsideration of your whole expatriation project?

Thank you for your contribution!

Diksha,
Expat.com team

cccmedia

Top Reasons Why Expats Choose to Live in Ecuador

10.  The weather is relatively mild in the Andean cities of Ecuador.  The only snow visible is on distant volcano peaks.

9.  Compared to some South America countries, Ecuador is a peaceful place to live.   It compares well with Venezuela, Colombia and Brazil in this respect.

8.  Not only is the cost of living lower than, say, in the States or Canada, Ecuador uses as its currency the U.S. dollar, but is not subject to the same inflationary pressures since it cannot print dollars.

7.  Gringos are welcome in many cities and towns, especially Cuenca and Vilcabamba, where English is spoken widely in the Expat enclaves and communities.

6.  Ecuador has tremendous biodiversity .. and offers travelers a choice of ocean, mountains and jungle areas.

5.  Under the current rules, an Expat adult of any age may apply for residency with a regular income of just $400 or more per month.

4.  Health care is available at low cost.  Many doctors are well-trained and speak English.

3.  High-quality Internet and cell phone services are available in Ecuador's cities.

2.  Services that are more expensive Up North are available in Ecuador for less.  In Quito, one can get an hour-long massage for about $25, a haircut for a couple of dollars and a thorough house cleaning for $25 to $30.

And the number one-reason Expats are drawn to Ecuador...

1.  It's close to many North American cities, with direct flights to such hubs as Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth and Miami-Ft. Lauderdale.

Dagretto

For me the primary motivator was that I am married to an Ecuadorian. That narrows down the countries of choice considerably!

But other factors made me want to live here too: cost of living is much lower, quality of life is a better (IMHO), medical care is significantly cheaper than in the US. And I think the culture is better & less divisive than back where I came from. All of these were additional factors into my decision.

Damon.

nancyjo95

Our main reason for wanting to retire to Ecuador is medical care. We would have enough funds to live in the US. But we would go broke if either one of us had any major medical conditions.

The lower cost of living is icing on the cake.

antialiased

There was one main factor, broken into four parts: Cheapest living.

See, I had essentially quit my job (dissolved a corporation) over a dispute with my state government (I was majority owner and president of the corporation).  I needed to find a new place to live since I promised never to pay another cent in taxes to that state's government.  In order to avoid that sort of situation occurring in the future, I wanted to avoid working or doing business wherever I moved.  That left me needing to find a place I could live without working (essentially retire at 38) while still being able to support my daughter.  Five years on and it's still going good.

The parts were:
------ Climate ------
I used to live where heating and cooling cost $3000-5000/year; here my daily temperature usually ranges from 19-27°C (66-80°F) so I need neither heating nor cooling and pay nothing.

------ Taxes ------
I used to pay $2000+ per year in property tax for a house I bought for $50k; here I pay $50 per year for a house I bought for $130k. (FYI - property prices were about the same here and there).

------ Cost of living ------
Me and my daughter were already living on $100-200 in groceries per month; that hasn't changed.  Internet and electric both used to be about $40/month; those costs haven't changed.

------ Insects ------
I lived where it snowed 6 months a year and so there were no roaches or centipedes or other terrifying creepy-crawlies - worst we had were mosquitos in the spring and ticks in the summer. I was considering Hawaii for retirement until I heard about the number and size of insects there.  Here there are more mosquitos and ticks than I'd like (there are a few) and I do see an occasional scorpion (non-life-threatening), but no roaches or centipedes.  The no-see-ums here are a pain but, all told, it could be worse.
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In summation, I went from spending $600-1000 per month to survive to, on average, spending about $225 per month now.  As a bonus, I never have to shovel snow.  The mud during rainy season though....

Guest7851

@antialiased: You know, it was only this week that I found out there's a thing called "freezing rain" in the US, and I'm happy we don't have to deal with it here in Ecuador. Our sidewalks are dangerous enough without ice.

Ed OConnor

Reasons for coming to Cuenca in 2012: I lost my full time job on April 1, 2011, (thought it was an April Fool's joke - it was not).  Five months later we lost our home and all our possessions in a 2011 flood. When the Ayatollah Obama was reannointed in 2012.....that was it. Have lived here since 2012 except for two years spent in the Eastern European country of Moldova.

cpt100ton
We are moving in August. We are selling our condo in Sarasota and have decided to retire (a little early) to Ecuador. Here are our reasons:

1) Cost of living - is sky-rocketing in the U.S. which will inevitably destroy what we understand was - the middle class. Inflation is at 8.6% while the wholesale prices are up to 10.8%. Interest rate was increased .75% yesterday with expectations it will hit 7% or higher by the end of the year.

2) After a lot of research and a few trips - we believe that the overall attitude of the Ecuadorian people is gracious and helpful with a lot of pride in their country.

3) Medical costs (though actually part of item #1); even with Medicare (which we are not old enough for) you can end up in financial straits on health issues that that does not cover.

4) Politics in the U.S. (actually trying to groom kindergarten and elementary school students about options to become Transgender) :-( 

5) Proximity to family still in the states.

6) Weather (we are moving to Manta).

7) The increasing anger and loss of compassion the majority of the U.S. people are expressing towards each other.

8) Traveling is a passion of ours. We will explore Ecuador and South America. And if by chance we decide to leave Ecuador - will just become international travelling nomads.

In conclusion - we understand no place is perfect. And we will approach the move to Ecuador with that attitude. We will "live in the moment" (which is hard to do in the states) where we will be able to relax and calm down a little.

We hope you all have a great day!
MrSmith321
I’m just beginning my journey to Eduador. I’m planning to begin in Cuenca but starting at ground zero. If you could recommend a person I could talk to there, that would be awesome!
RobinJoel
To CPT:

If you are considering the life of an international nomad, why are you bringing $30K in furniture?  I'm not trying to be rude, just wondering?  If you try to sell your home things here, you won't make nearly that back.
rkg695
@MrSmith321 Hola! I am a Canadian who spent the month of May touring Ecuador looking for the right place to retire. I spent a very enjoyable stay in Cuenca. The restaurants, shopping, culture and the beauty of the city, the markets, walkability and tranvia city train, it’s plazas, riverside parks and pathways will tempt you.

I suggest you check out Amelia & JP on YouTube, I found their video tours, relocation and life / living expenses / rental information invaluable to help me explore Ecuador, but particularly Cuenca! They also have a website called Live Abroad Now with links to free referral services… everything from tour guides, private drivers (to explore Cuenca or travel city to city), to dentists, vets and pet care, relocation & visa experts (I’m working with Gringo Visas to obtain an investor visa and my Cedula; Ecuador ID), rental / real estate agents, etc.

They recently posted a number of links for regular expat meetups in Cuenca as well (copy & paste to your internet explorer):

regular expat meetups in Cuenca? Sunrise Cafe: facebook.com/Sunrise-Cafe-Cuenca-1399638657023219

Kolo: facebook.com/Kolo-Restaurant-and-Bakery-103331078504416

Common Grounds: facebook.com/commongroundscuenca GringoPost:

Cuenca Expats: facebook.com/groups/Cuencaexpats

YESS: facebook.com/groups/282164642193079
MrSmith321
Wow! Thank you for your detailed response! I’ll definitely check those sources out
rkg695
@MrSmith321

☺️ you’re very welcome! i’ve posted this before but…

If I could give ANY one piece of advice to ensure your happiness with a new life in Ecuador, it is this:

Integrate with local culture…

Learn to speak the language - this is Ecuador, the mestizo (spanish / indigenous mixed) speak spanish, the primary culture and traditions here are Ecuadorian, do NOT expect the Ecuadorians to adapt to you and the culture / traditions you leave behind. They have centuries of history, tradition, religion, arts and culture of their own; they have little need or reason to white-wash their country for anyone.

If you make the effort, the locals will (often literally) embrace you and welcome you and make it easier to find your home and happiness here! And after that the rest is gravy… learning more about the beautiful indiginous cultures will be your reward: the Tsáchila, Chachi, Epera, Awa, Quichua, Shuar, Achuar, Shiwiar, Cofán, Siona, Secoya, Zápara, Andoa y Waorani, and Afro-Ecuadorians…
rkg695
The short answer of why I’m leaving Canada is, I can’t afford to retire there…

Before I was Covid retired I’d travelled and worked elsewhere including Honduras, Venezuela, Colombia … and love the cultures, the foods, music, history, architecture, small town feels and big city exuberance!

I spent the month of May exploring the highlands of Ecuador, from Cotacachi to Quito, Cuenca, Loja, and Vilcabamba looking for the right place to move to and try out for a year… and was happily surprised to discover I would never call Ecuador a Third World country, at least not the way most people use the term. It is a developing country, but Ecuadoreans have a lot to be proud of! Yes there is a wide disparity between the wealthy at the top, and the very poor at the bottom, but overall I find Ecuador very liveable and see all the signs that it is growing and improving, in its own way, every day.

Unlike many South and Central American countries, Ecuador does have a growing middle-class which points to a stable and developing economy despite the pandemic setbacks that all countries have suffered (Ecuador produces much of what it needs, without relying a lot on imports). Most of the major roads are well-kept and modern, the cities and some of the more popular smaller towns are constantly improving infrastructure, drinking water, hospitals and clinics, health and fitness amenities like fitness parks, walking and biking paths (particularly in Cuenca), public squares, sidewalks, accessibility, street lighting etc. Most importantly Ecuadoreans trust their national police, and their military which is very rare indeed in Latin America. Corruption remains and a lack of trust in politicians and municipal / transit police remain for good reason; poverty and temptation push people outside the line of acceptable behaviour everywhere.

Generally however, I have found people in Ecuador to be very welcoming, friendly and helpful when you make the effort to be respectful, polite, and most are very patient while you stumble through trying out your daily Spanish lessons. Ecuador welcomes foreigners and makes it easy to move here, invest, purchase or rent property, open a bank account, obtain visas and residency through a variety of means. It is a very religious and family oriented culture, where respect and community are very important… with all the benefits and positives that implies. Ecuador is known as the happiest country in Latin America by others in Venezuela, Colombia, etc. I don’t discuss religion (or lack thereof) with the locals, but I respect the traditions and values of the people around me, and with some patience and an open mind, I found it very easy to make new friends quite quickly even though I am an introvert, a loner, high functioning autistic, however you want to describe it.  It has been fairly easy to navigate through daily life, and figure things out. I’m getting used to the slower pace and Mañana culture, but definitely embracing the ”tranquillo” that comes with it, without too much trouble… even though I’m still learning Spanish too.

Yes the whole toilet paper situation can be briefly traumatizing, but once you learn the  wipe, fold (for discretion), and dispose routine you get over it pretty quick; Definitely bring a few pre-folded packets of toilet paper for ready use, as some places employ cleaners who are very poorly paid and understandably try to make a little extra money hoarding and selling very small, but carefully folded pats of toilet paper, and if you forget to bring change (if you’ll forgive the term) you’re shit out of luck, lol.
cpt100ton

@RobinJoel Because we are leaving the door open to any and all possibilities. If we decide to be nomads - we rent out our upscale condo in Manta that would supplement our retirement funds. We also leave the door open that we love it in Manta and decide to stay. Travelled all of my life..... as a captain in the Merchant Marines sand or an industrial engineer.

cpt100ton

@RobinJoel I forgot to answer one of your questions - we are not bringing any furniture with us. We are furnishing a brand new condo with furniture we buy in Ecuador.

RobinJoel
@cpt100ton
I wish you well on your journey and wherever that takes you and those you love.
We all need to encourage each other and share some thoughts or information.
I also hope that we can be open and always give people chances to do well in their business and adventures.
cccmedia
I purchased an apartment in Centro Histórico, Quito, in 2005,
envisioning using it as a rental/investment.  I had gotten
a deal by buying in the pre-construction phase, although I don't
recommend that type of purchase to Ecuador newcomers.

When I had a rough trip back from a visit to Thailand
eight years later, the ensuing illness caused temporary
insomnia and health problems that forced me into
early retirement -- doctor's orders.

Health and related short-term financial issues made it
too challenging to maintain my lifestyle in the U.S.

Selling 90 percent of my stuff in the States,, traveling to
Quito and moving into the condo was the answer.

Most of the condos in the construction project had recently
been completed.  I moved in as the first-ever occupant
of the unit in July 2013 and it has been my primary residence
ever since.

Even though I now can afford to live in the States,
I prefer it here in South America. 

cccmedia in Quito
cpt100ton
@RobinJoel we wish you well on your travels and new lifestyle as well! I think we are all looking for something new and comforting! We hope everyone finds what they are looking for!

Did you buy a home? Renting? What area?

Please drop a line if you find yourselves in Manta!
Coxhere1
renting in quito; sector magdalena
RobinJoel
I hope that the protesters and the government can work out the concessions and solutions soon.  I have read that Quito has just a few days of supplies.

At the Mercado in Vilcabamba today, overall each stand had about 30% of the usual products, except for meats and locally grown items.

Robin Lynn

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