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Purchasing a condo in Sosua

Last activity 04 April 2022 by Tripp789

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vixenmartine

Buenos Dias,

I am a business woman from NYC looking to expand my short term rental biz in DR.  I have decided to establish myself in Sosua based on my research.

I have been here for less than a month and my plan was to run my online consulting biz for two years and then purchase.  However, my business senses lead me to believe that the property prices here will have increased drastically by then.  I noticed there's a W hotel coming to Cabarete by 2024 and in hospitality world this means the area is about to boom.

I decided to purchase a condo here instead of waiting but the logical side of me is wondering how can I purchase property without being a resident.

Have most of you who have purchased properties here residents or no?  Also, if  anyone  has experience in short term rentals in Sosua please share.

Thank you.

DRCulture

I am not a resident and am in the process of purchasing a home about 15 mins from Sosua. I will likely use it as an Airbnb for a little bit. It’s not my long term goal.  I have a property manager who will handle rentals for me.

ddmcghee

Is the W still being built? I thought that project was shut down last year because of violation of land use laws.

Buying without being a resident happens all the time! We bought an apartment and two land lots here before we got our residency.

vixenmartine

Hi, how long have you been in Sosua?  How long also before you purchased? 

I want to make sure I'm not jumping too quickly into purchasing a property.  I get the feeling it may not be this price if I wait one or two years.

vixenmartine

Oh that's reassuring to hear.  I don't know of many countries where you can come and go so easily so it was a big worrisome to me.

I don't know the backstory of the W but I noticed the signs last week when I was driving to Cabarete.  If they are indeed going to be here the other big hotels will follow.  I want to be established before they arrive.

ddmcghee

Here's the article on the W's permit being rejected.

Yes, it is easy to come and go here from the US, but remember that with the tourist card that is included in your airfare, you can only stay for 30 days. You can apply for an extension of 90 days, for a total of 120 days. You also cannot legally work here, even if it is running your own online business, without residency. People do it, but there is risk involved.

vixenmartine

Thank you for explaining that.  I will continue to research.  I was quite confused with the Haitian restaurant owner on the beach told me he has no residency and has been there for five years.  How can that be if he has a business?

Guest2022

OP stated: However, my business senses lead me to believe that the property prices here will have increased drastically by then

The North Coast has traditionally been quite stagnant when it comes to tourism and real estate and mid market typically. We have seen so many hotel projects fail to get off the ground too over the years. Casa Linda seems the hospitality exception.

With inflation, loss of Russian and Ukranian tourists who represented a large percentage and a 15% surcharge on international airline tickets which will impact European travel, I wonder if this is an optimistic view?

I see one upside and that is that building new property will cost more but will renters pay more in potentially tough times to come?

I can understand the East Coast could be more resiliant to the current challenges because it is relatively new, modern and growing with ease of air travel from North America.

ddmcghee

vixenmartine wrote:

Thank you for explaining that.  I will continue to research.  I was quite confused with the Haitian restaurant owner on the beach told me he has no residency and has been there for five years.  How can that be if he has a business?


Non-residents can own businesses, but without a cedula, they cannot work here legally.

The Haitian restaurant owner is definitely not in this country legally unless he has a work visa, which would be darn near impossible for a restaurant worker - the skills are just not specialized enough to justify the visa. His restaurant might not be operating legally either. There are plenty of bars and restaurants around the country that are not registered businesses, are not licensed, don't pay taxes, don't adhere to labor laws, hire everyone under the table, etc.

The DR is working on avenues for Haitians to regularize their status. We need Haitian workers here to support the economy. Search for the threads on that for more info on those programs.

Tippj

The restaurants don’t have health department license either , I know a lot of people who work in these secondary jobs and they tell me that the restaurant owners are hurting badly since the pandemic and they can’t afford to throw outdated food away…. So guess who is getting it

planner

That is likely true in many areas. 

Let's get back on topic.

windeguy

Here's the article on the W's permit being rejected.

Yes, it is easy to come ... - @ddmcghee

 I see a petition to stop the W from building too high. I don't see anything that says construction of the W in Cabarete is actually halted by the government. Is it? 

Non-resident foreigners have no problem owning property in the DR.  Selling that property is the problem.  Recently, selling has been less of a problem in the Cabarete/Sosua area.  If you want to remain in the DR, it is advisable to become a legal resident which starts in your home country at the Dominican Consulate. 

windeguy

Thank you for explaining that.  I will continue to research.  I was quite confused with the Haitian restaurant owner on the beach told me he has no residency and has been there for five years.  How can that be if he has a ... - @vixenmartine

 

Quite simply, nobody has cared to deport him as of yet.  Odd as that is. him being from Haiti he has a target on his back larger than most illegals. 

windeguy

vixenmartine wrote:

Thank you for explaining that.  I will continue to research.  I was quite confused with the Haitian restaurant owner on the beach told me he has no ... - @ddmcghee

My resposnse is below: 


I am not aware of any new Haitian Regularization plans at the moment for those who live in the DR.  There were previous attempts to do this.  Now they a building a wall at the Haitian border and I expect more deportations and not regularizations with respect to Haitians.   The only thing I have heard of is a day  pass kind of visa where Haitians can cross the border to trade and must go back to Haiti each evening.  They cannot do other work in the DR. That is the only thing I know of currently being done regarding Haitians other than deportations. 



maggielola57
@vixenmartine 
Hi. I have purchased land in DR, I build a house and a small Colmado. I have done it from Canada. It worked out well:) I have one piece of advice......Get in with the Dominican people....
maggielola57
@vixenmartine 
And yes, I totally agree with you, DR is starting to boom, it is actually a gold mine:)
People are starting to notice DR..... 5 years ago was my first trip to DR, I ended up staying for 6 months because there are opportunities on every corner, they are so behind in the world, they do not realize what they have. Great cultulture but need a little bit of guidance, but opportunities are over the roof!
maggielola57
You can get residency easily, if you can employ at least one Dominican, if he or she can support their family
maggielola57
Haitians are very poor, they migrate to DR for a better life. Imagine that?  I find it a little bit funny that I am immigrating from a rich country....Canada, to DR.... not long ago considered a thrill world country:)
ddmcghee
You can get residency easily, if you can employ at least one Dominican, if he or she can support their family
- @maggielola57
 
If you are speaking of the Investment route to residency, you must invest $200k to apply. You cannot simply employ one person and qualify for residency.
planner
Ddmcghee is exactly right.  Just opening a company and employing someone is not grounds for residency!   You must  invest US 200,000 and be  able to document it and you must create a viable business that will help this country!  Buying  condos or villas  and employing a "housekeeper"  wont do it either anymore!

They have closed many of the loopholes! 
planner
Lets all of us, including me,  stay on topic please.
Tripp789

Is the W still being built? I thought that project was shut down last year because of violation of land use laws.

Buying without being a resident happens all the time! We bought an apartment and two land lots here before we got our ... - @ddmcghee

 The W is still “on”.  At least they recently decorated the construction fences with Ocean Club ads.  Claims to open in 2024.   I believe the Ritz-Carlton in la boca was stopped for environmental issues, but recently heard a rumor it was on again.  Doubtful IMO. 

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