Transitioning to Vietnam

Hello everyone! I am tired of the high costs of living in the U.S. and all the beauracy.  At 63 I would like to become an expat. I have narrowed it down to Thailand and Vietnam.  I have done some research on the internet as far as costs, visas, etc. But I would like to connect with someone already living there for the hard facts! Thanks so much.

- @sfowler2760

Hello everyone! I am tired of the high costs of living in the U.S. and all the beauracy.  At 63 I would like to become an expat. I have narrowed it down to Thailand and Vietnam.  I have done some research on the internet as far as costs, visas, etc. But I would like to connect with someone already living there for the hard facts! Thanks so much.

- @sfowler2760

I highly recommend you plan a month-long trip to visit before you commit to moving to any foreign country, you may find that neither Vietnam nor Thailand are what you expected!

@sfowler2760 I'd consider Cambodia if you are definite on wanting to retire elsewhere, but as other folks have pointed out you may find some challenges. Financially for a year of a retirement EOS, it will be about $300 in Cambodia. You can arrive and get a visa on arrival but be sure to get the ordinary visa since the others cannot be extended to extension of stay visas. There are a few resources. There is a Facebook group but I gave up on Facebook for a few different reasons so I can't help with that group and there is a nice forum here to consider for Cambodia where the folks will help. Also there is the movetocambodia website. I've lived in Cambodia repeatedly for some years. Life is good there. I also bought the retirement extension pre pandemic times to use as a base and bounced around where I wanted to go. Having the retirement extension was nice since I could go to Vietnam or Malaysia or Singapore or wherever whenever I wanted and always go back. I've wished for a Vietnam retirement visa for years. I lived there for almost two years in 2020/2021 and went through the process of starting a LLC there. I failed at that and left. Now I am going back to Cambodia to live.

I've been living here for 9 1/2 years... @doctorhands

... now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age.

... now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age.

Hi! What is your source for this bit? Thx
-@gobot

I sincerely hope there is no source for that.

There will be a lot of disappointed suitresses if true.

@doctorhands Simple country living is the best ... I'm not much for big city style ... sighhhh ... getting ready for my escape from Saigon ... heading to the slow life on Ishigaki in Okinawa prefecture ... my favorite spot on this planet Urth. Plan to open a small home stay and semi-retire ... god willing.

applications for marriage in Vietnam are submitted to the local Peoples Committee, either in your current location, or that of the prospective spouse.  Possibly, a refusal simply means that someone is looking for a little present to make the problem disappear.

This was a large problem years ago.

Wild Bill

applications for marriage in Vietnam are submitted to the local Peoples Committee, either in your current location, or that of the prospective spouse.
Wild Bill
-@williamherron13

“Current location" is not correct.

Provincial location of the family book of the Vietnamese citizen is the only correct answer.

This is being discussed in detail in this thread (link)

A couple of corrections to my posts in this thread:

1. ₫3,000,000,000 VNĐ is now closer to a little under $121,000 USD.

2. According to my lawyer in HCMC, a Vietnamese person must get married in their place of permanent registration.

That is almost always the hometown/home province location of the family book, but some Vietnamese go through the legal process of permanently registering themselves elsewhere.

Another reason why the first person to ask for information is the prospective Vietnamese spouse.

Only that person can tell you which province has jurisdiction in their case.

@sfowler2760

It depends. What standard of living are you looking for?
I've been living here for 9 1/2 years. At first I had a business visa, but they started to clamp down on those who didn't have a work permit along with that. Now I have a 1yr investor visa.
Tourist visas are 30 days +/-. It changes frequently. At one time you could get a 3 mo tourist visa renew it every 3 months, in country, and then just do a border run to renew. But they clamped down on those and "had" only issued 30 days with no option to renew.
Business visas are an option if you can get a job here. Teaching English is the easiest to get as there is high demand. Teaching part-time is also acceptable. You have to have a degree and a clean criminal record. The visa and work permit are good for 1 yr, and renewable.
Marriage to a local will get you a 3-5yr Temporary Resident Card. There are plenty of divorced/widowed and young single women who are interested in western men. Watch out though, there may be strings attached and now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age. I'm 67 and I've had 27 y/o girls hitting on me. Ohh the power of a US Green Card.

The best way, IMHO, is to get an investor visa. I believe it's $130,000 for a 5year investor visa and TRC. Less than that and you can get 3yrs. Less than $30,000 and you get a 1yr investor visa, renewable, but no TRC. I got a 1 yr investor visa for $15,000 investment in my
GF business.
As far as living conditions, it depends on your style and location. You will pay higher if you get a western-style apartment in an expat area. For some places, there is little difference between there and the US. However, I lived in a new, very modern, 2br apartment in an outlying district for about $350. That same one in District 2/7 (where the expats live) goes for around $1200/mo. Of course, you get a swimming pool and gym for that price, (wowww).
I bought a farm, through my GF as foreigners can't buy farmland, and live on less than $1200 a month. But I live i an old primitive, traditional wood house in the Central Highlands where the temps are absolutely fabulous.

The main cities along the coast will be hot and humid. How much that affects your comfort level will depend on where you are coming from. I lived in South Florida for 13 years before coming here so the Temps didn't bother me much, until now as I get older.

-@doctorhands

Bachelor of science is minimum degree for teaching English? Not possible with associate degree?

You may want to consider a cheaper part if the US if your only reason to come to SE Asia is because it is cheap. It takes some doing to actually live here.
-@SteinNebraska

Where are the cheaper places in US? Arizona, Nevada  mountains and  outside  big cities?

@Aidan in HCMC Half correct - Thailand does not have a "Retirement Visa" per se, it is an 'Extension based on Retirement'. You must enter on a valid 90 day Visa and if at the age limit (55 years old?) you can apply for the one-year extension based on retirement.  It can be renewed every year as long as you are qualified.

@sfowler2760

It depends. What standard of living are you looking for?
I've been living here for 9 1/2 years. At first I had a business visa, but they started to clamp down on those who didn't have a work permit along with that. Now I have a 1yr investor visa.
Tourist visas are 30 days +/-. It changes frequently. At one time you could get a 3 mo tourist visa renew it every 3 months, in country, and then just do a border run to renew. But they clamped down on those and "had" only issued 30 days with no option to renew.
Business visas are an option if you can get a job here. Teaching English is the easiest to get as there is high demand. Teaching part-time is also acceptable. You have to have a degree and a clean criminal record. The visa and work permit are good for 1 yr, and renewable.
Marriage to a local will get you a 3-5yr Temporary Resident Card. There are plenty of divorced/widowed and young single women who are interested in western men. Watch out though, there may be strings attached and now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age. I'm 67 and I've had 27 y/o girls hitting on me. Ohh the power of a US Green Card.

The best way, IMHO, is to get an investor visa. I believe it's $130,000 for a 5year investor visa and TRC. Less than that and you can get 3yrs. Less than $30,000 and you get a 1yr investor visa, renewable, but no TRC. I got a 1 yr investor visa for $15,000 investment in my
GF business.
As far as living conditions, it depends on your style and location. You will pay higher if you get a western-style apartment in an expat area. For some places, there is little difference between there and the US. However, I lived in a new, very modern, 2br apartment in an outlying district for about $350. That same one in District 2/7 (where the expats live) goes for around $1200/mo. Of course, you get a swimming pool and gym for that price, (wowww).
I bought a farm, through my GF as foreigners can't buy farmland, and live on less than $1200 a month. But I live i an old primitive, traditional wood house in the Central Highlands where the temps are absolutely fabulous.

The main cities along the coast will be hot and humid. How much that affects your comfort level will depend on where you are coming from. I lived in South Florida for 13 years before coming here so the Temps didn't bother me much, until now as I get older.

-@doctorhands
1. Bachelor of science is minimum degree for teaching English? 2. Not possible with associate degree?
-@narcrepellant2525

1. Yes

2. No, except for the rare cases when you can convince the government through official paperwork that you have enough experience to meet their requirements.

it's a very tough process and very few ever do it and succeed.

You may want to consider a cheaper part if the US if your only reason to come to SE Asia is because it is cheap. It takes some doing to actually live here.
-@SteinNebraska


Where are the cheaper places in US? Arizona, Nevada mountains and outside big cities?
-@narcrepellant2525

Mississippi.

Some places in Nebraska.

Rural areas of most midwestern states

Excuse me boys, what is transitioning? Reading the post, should be "moving". But "transitioning"? Very complicated and high level, but in my opinion useless word when there is "higher level" word like "relocation".

Nothing personal, just my opinion.   

Excuse me boys, what is transitioning? Reading the post, should be "moving". But "transitioning"? Very complicated and high level, but in my opinion useless word when there is "higher level" word like "relocation".
Nothing personal, just my opinion. 
-@ruzuba1500

Its WOKE talk

Excuse me boys, what is transitioning? Reading the post, should be "moving". But "transitioning"? Very complicated and high level, but in my opinion useless word when there is "higher level" word like "relocation".
Nothing personal, just my opinion.
-@ruzuba1500
Its WOKE talk
-@goodolboy

It's a lot to unpack if you are not a millenial.

Excuse me boys, what is transitioning? Reading the post, should be "moving". But "transitioning"? Very complicated and high level, but in my opinion useless word when there is "higher level" word like "relocation".
Nothing personal, just my opinion. 
-@ruzuba1500

in fairness you are talking about a change of location.

The op is emphasizing that (in his mind) he will be essentially converting into a different person.

I agree it's a little much but he got your attention, which seems to be what he was really wanting to do.

@Aidan in HCMC Half correct - Thailand does not have a "Retirement Visa" per se, it is an 'Extension based on Retirement'. You must enter on a valid 90 day Visa and if at the age limit (55 years old?) you can apply for the one-year extension based on retirement. It can be renewed every year as long as you are qualified.
-@tunnelrat69

Yes, thank you for that.

Bachelor of science is minimum degree for teaching English? Not possible with associate degree?
-@narcrepellant2525

A bachelor's degree, in any field. Does not have to be a BSc.

A Bachelor of Arts (BA) is acceptable.

...and now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age...                                                                                                                                                                          -@doctorhands

Hi! What is your source for this bit? Thx
-@gobot

I sincerely hope there is no source for that.
There will be a lot of disappointed suitresses if true.
-@Aidan in HCMC

I'm still wondering about the source for that.

Excuse me boys...
-@ruzuba1500

Now then, who you callin'  "boy"!?

...and now they are clamping down on marriages of over 20yrs difference in age...                                                                                     -@doctorhands

Hi! What is your source for this bit? Thx
-@gobot

I sincerely hope there is no source for that.
There will be a lot of disappointed suitresses if true.
-@Aidan in HCMC


I'm still wondering about the source for that.
-@Aidan in HCMC

Who is 'they' ? ? ?

MAc

You may want to consider a cheaper part if the US if your only reason to come to SE Asia is because it is cheap. It takes some doing to actually live here.
-@SteinNebraska


Where are the cheaper places in US? Arizona, Nevada mountains and outside big cities?
-@narcrepellant2525

Mississippi.

Some places in Nebraska.

Rural areas of most midwestern states
-@OceanBeach92107

Well,

Take Me Home, Country Roads

Lyrics:

Almost heaven, West Virginia

Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River

Life is old there, older than the trees

Younger than the mountains, growin' like a breeze

Country roads, take me home

To the place I belong

West Virginia, mountain mama

Take me home, country roads

All my memories gather 'round her

Miner's lady, stranger to blue water

Dark and dusty, painted on the sky

Misty taste of moonshine, teardrop in my eye

Country roads, take me home

To the place I belong

West Virginia, mountain mama

Take me home, country roads

I hear her voice in the mornin' hour, she calls me

The radio reminds me of my home far away

Drivin' down the road, I get a feelin'

That I should've been home yesterday, yesterday

Country roads, take me home

To the place I belong

West Virginia, mountain mama

Take me home, country roads

Country roads, take me home

To the place I belong

West Virginia, mountain mama

Take me home, country roads

Take me home, (down) country roads

Take me home, (down) country roads

Source: LyricFind

Songwriters: Bill Danoff / John Denver / Taffy Nivert Danoff

Take Me Home, Country Roads lyrics © Chikili Tubbie Records, Roba Music Verlag GMBH, Spirit Music Group, Universal Music Publishing Group

MAc

Excuse me boys...
-@ruzuba1500

Now then, who you callin' "boy"!?


-@Aidan in HCMC

well, sounds better than "old boys". Or?

Excuse me boys...
-@ruzuba1500

Now then, who you callin' "boy"!?


-@Aidan in HCMC
well, sounds better than "old boys". Or?
-@ruzuba1500

Hey, it's a perfectly fine pronoun by me, but we mustn't forget the lady expat.com members

(of which there are many)

sorry girls.

@OceanBeach92107

Historically rich country, Vietnam is nowadays a top destination for expatriation in Asia. The country attracts both foreign professionals and retirees in large numbers.

It is not. Just read above.

@OceanBeach92107

Historically rich country, Vietnam is nowadays a top destination for expatriation in Asia. The country attracts both foreign professionals and retirees in large numbers.

Not true. It is not a rich country and retirees are not welcome. By the Government. Read below.

Probably the most pertinent "hard fact" currently will limit you to 30 day eVisas for tourists which cannot be extended in country, requiring a border run every 30 days, UNLESS you manage the difficult process of getting legally employed OR get married to a Vietnamese citizen OR invest at least $130,000.00 USD for a multi-year Temporary Residence Card or invest about $26,000.00 USD in a legal business startup for a 1 year business visa (requires hiring a lawyer in Vietnam in most cases).

I'm guessing you will enjoy your retirement in Thailand, unless current visa restrictions change in Vietnam.

Good Luck!

@OceanBeach92107
Historically rich country, Vietnam is nowadays a top destination for expatriation in Asia. The country attracts both foreign professionals and retirees in large numbers.

It is not. Just read above.
-@MartinLe

Before you start instructing me, please take a course in how to quote on this forum. I did not write the thing that you quoted. So I don't need you to explain anything to me.