National ID Cards for use by all Filipinos

According to a recent Commission on Audit report, the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas needs to catch up with the schedule of producing national ID cards for around 116 million Filipinos within a four-year period.

That's a joke. According to a credible source (Paul the blogger - Old dog new tricks) he went through the 'torture' of applying for a replacement drivers licence. After 6 weeks and five visits to five different offices the licencing authority had to issue him with a 'temporary' paper licence as they had run out of the official plastic laminated wallets.

So lets see now, maybe 5 million apply for a driving licence every year. Now we are talking about supplying the entire Filipino population of 116 (yes they're still breeding like rabbits) million within 4 years. Think again.

The plan though is a sound one as presumably once the ID card is issued it will make the application for official documents that much easier albeit at the expense of thousands of civil servants losing their jobs...

Not to worry....national i.d's are otw real SOON; funds have just been found to expedite the whole process.

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Not to worry....national i.d's are otw real SOON; funds have just been found to expedite the whole process.

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-@manwonder

They better allocate funds to PhilPost first.

With Philpost most recipients will be dead before the card arrives.

Not to worry....national i.d's are otw real SOON; funds have just been found to expedite the whole process.

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-@manwonder

Like number plates for cars and bikes? Sure I got one for my car 2 weeks after purchase but and but, over 3 years and still no plates for the bikes. Welcome to the Philippines where "more fun in the Philippines" seems to over ride the realities.

I said enough. Don't get me started on building and fencing permits.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

We're just about to build a boundary fence. All of the survey markers have disappeared (just 2 years after placing), so need to redo the survey, then apply for a fencing permit. Remotely, hoping it will be straightforward. Any tips please mention, as I was under the impression this was going to be a simple process.

Re National ID. I think it makes sense to implement generally. How does one organize 115M people? As a stated reform, Marcos Jr. wants to improve digital infrastructure - by first numbering the population. Even though this is a Duterte initiative originally, this government is now pushing for the implementation. Seems sensible using a technological model, like integrated ID system perhaps enabling a cell phone tracing system.

Saying that, the implementation will be clumsy I think, in part because so many Filipinos are undocumented and don't have cell phones. They might be on some type of electoral register (they vote), have BIR numbers, and stand in line at Philhealth etc- but many, including my parents-in-law, don't have birth certificates, and conflicting names on some documents.

Not sure your municipality gst but here they gave us a check list for the documents etc that had to be submitted as the requirement,,,,, then the Barangay got involved and they had their hand out, then the municipal suddenly required more info and extra fees, 3 times with them now, every time you jump a hurdle they place another in front.

Asked why and "new rules sir". 3 or 4 months on I don't have a building permit. Used to the malarky that they inflict.

Good luck. BTW my markers never disappeared and we are building the fences now regardless of permits, the main pillars look like Southbank in Melbourne Oz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-oUWqhIui4

Mind you, no gas.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Thanks Steve, really useful. Hopefully I'll just have a basic checklist of pre-existing documents, and won't get the barangay handout requests. About three years ago we cut down a few redundant coconut trees, and had to go through the whole DENR thing, plus the Barangay Captain needed a letter. If I could get away without this hassle I'd just do what you did - proceed nonetheless.

Don't worry gst, the Barangay will have their hand out and requirements or else the Municipal won't release, follow the rules. The good thing is that both Quangos said the fence can be built but not the extensions until the permit is finalized, Patience and biting your tongue seems the way to go and play their game.

Basic requirements? Don't make me laugh as basic is ongoing it seems. Yes same with DENR many years ago to remove a large Acacia and of course the Barangay captain got involved and he wanted the timber for the community,,,,,, A large tree on residential land? Not a forest.

Cheers, Steve.

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In terms of the new National ID Card, one might guess it's usefulness will be determined by the laws created around it's use?

For one example, will various government bodies and / or companies and / or private individuals have permission to request / require / demand to see an individual's ID card?

And if they are allowed, or not,  therefore what decisions can be made effecting each card-holder?

On the matter of property fences, we are right now deciding on a fence around 17.4 hectares we bought a month ago. We made certain it was an already titled property, and it was already classified as agricultural. So apparently one can do almost anything you like when it's classified as agricultural on Palawan anyway.

We have started farming the previously cleared bottom flats (planting bananas, papaya and tropical fruits) and are preserving our timberlands. Our range-top will be for public lookout viewing.

The existing survey posts were mostly still there but had been mightly re-arranged and muchly shortened. Now, after our re-survey and now, we're currently clearing farm-tracks along the inside of our future fence lines.

We've yet to decide upon what type of fencing we will build, and must admit, it's a loong perimeter.

Must also admit, it feels strange to own a tribe of monkeys

"In terms of the new National ID Card, one might guess it's usefulness will be determined by the laws created around it's use?" @P1

Think you're absolutely right. Like anything, these applications are tools, and can be used successfully or ineffectually, for good or harm, and at best can only reflect the laws of the land.

"On the matter of property fences, we are right now deciding on a fence around 17.4 hectares we bought a month ago.....we have started farming the previously cleared bottom flats (planting bananas, papaya and tropical fruits) and are preserving our timberlands" @P1

Sounds like a big job with huge potential. As I recall you're farming ducks as well. Wonderful project!

"In terms of the new National ID Card, one might guess it's usefulness will be determined by the laws created around it's use?" @P1
Think you're absolutely right. Like anything, these applications are tools, and can be used successfully or ineffectually, for good or harm, and at best can only reflect the laws of the land.

"On the matter of property fences, we are right now deciding on a fence around 17.4 hectares we bought a month ago.....we have started farming the previously cleared bottom flats (planting bananas, papaya and tropical fruits) and are preserving our timberlands" @P1

Sounds like a big job with huge potential. As I recall you're farming ducks as well. Wonderful project!
-@gsturdee

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Ahh, you have both a good mind and a good heart, Sturdy. Much respect for everything you care to write.

And yes, such new tools as a national ID card, will be a double-edged sword. Good and bad at the same time. In this case, hopefully the card will be an enormous benefit for the good people of the Philippines.

But, what we do know already is it will be an enormous task to provide and issue an ID card to 116 million citizens, as already noted above by our friend Bigpearl.

And as we agree, the success of the new card will depend greatly on the laws made around its' use. A difficult task and certainly not an easy task for the new Marcos government.

Whatever they manage, let's hope the initiative is a genuine and very helpful resource for all Philippine people.

And yes Sturdy, you're right, we also do own and run a duck egg farm, and the two farms are around 10 minutes from each other. So, although it will quite disruptive, especially for our madam ducks, we will be moving our duck farm to our new property soonish in future. This will simplify things considerably, especially in terms of staff and management. However, this new farm will certainly become a life-time of effort, interest, care and genuine love

Must say, we're glad you're back in the Philippines, and we hope your farm and property are a real joy in your life and in the lives of your loved ones, our dear friend Sturdy one

P1, it's pointless here, good luck ever getting a national ID card. Ben applied around a year ago and zilch, nada.

Said it before the focus seems to be in the wrong areas and not benefitting the people where it's needed. I reiterate number plates paid for but can't be supplied 3 years on,,,,,, the national Id card? Here? pull the other one. Control? Info gathering? Or just a quango to create jobs for the mates that will never deliver?

What's wrong with a birth certificate, passport or drivers license? Barangay clearance etc.

This country seemed to work fine with all of the above ID's

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

My partner in Cebu has been waiting for her Philippines SSI Card for about three years now. They assure her that she should be able to pick it up sometime in 2023. Seems there is a delay in printing the cards in Manila.

Welcome to to Philippines. Don't hold your breath.

I need not say more.

Cheers, Steve.