So, there are 433 Philippine Grand Lotto winners today?

<SNIP> From PalawOne article "433 Lotto winners surprising but not impossible – expert"

HAVING 433 bettors win the October 1st 6/55 Grand Lotto draw is "surprising" but not impossible, a math professor has said.

The chances, meanwhile, of one bettor winning the Grand Lotto draw is one out of 29 million, David said.

But he said that it is not impossible to have multiple winners, especially since last Saturday's winning combination was a mathematical sequence.

I don't blame people who find it unusual or surprising — I, myself, am surprised about the result," David said.

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It's easy to have so many winners when the lotto tickets are printed upafter the drawing.

From PalawOne article "433 Lotto winners surprising but not impossible – expert"

It's easy to have so many winners when the lotto tickets are printed upafter the drawing.-@Enzyte Bob

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Yes, it would be Bob And, one lawmaker wants an investigation.

It does seem ridiculous, and very unlikely to have occurred by chance.

"House inquiry sought over lotto result"

By Ma. Reina Leanne Tolentino October 4, 2022

https://www.manilatimes.net/2022/10/04/ … lt/1860913

A lawmaker on Tuesday filed a resolution that seeks an inquiry, in aid of legislation, over Saturday's 6/55 lotto draw result.

House Resolution 463, was filed by Minority Leader Marcelino Libanan from the Pagtibayin at Palaguin ang Pangkabuhayang Pilipino (4Ps) party-list.

The resolution stated that "there is an urgent need for the Congress to protect and ensure the integrity of the PCSO's lotto operations, considering their contributions to government coffers and to the economy".

PCSO General Manager Mel Robles said in a press briefing on Sunday that they "found nothing wrong" with the draw. Robles said "it's a natural occurrence" that there are people who stick with their numbers

"In fact, it's a natural occurrence, 'no, na may mga nag-aalaga [ng numero] at maraming nananalo kapag tinamaan iyon [...]", Robles said. (In fact, it's a natural occurrence that there are people who retain [numbers] and many win when those numbers are drawn [...])

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If most of the bettors had the lotto machine pick the numbers for them (quick pick / lucky pick), then 433 winners would be suspicious.  But if quick pick winners were five or less, then 433 winners is rare but could happen if there is a pattern, like multiples of 9.

If most of the bettors had the lotto machine pick the numbers for them (quick pick / lucky pick), then 433 winners would be suspicious. But if quick pick winners were five or less, then 433 winners is rare but could happen if there is a pattern, like multiples of 9.
-@FilAmericanMom

I wonder how the 433 winners feel knowing that their prize has been shared by so many other lucky winners. Happy to have won certainly but at the same time they may feel that their one opportunity to really win the big one has gone.

I was in a syndicate and we matched 5 out of the 6 numbers once. Our sixth number was one away from the sixth number and the bonus ball so I think we had 17 and the sixth number drawn was 16 and the bonus ball was 18. I knew then the chance of getting so near again was slim to none.

Omho

Now that I think of it I must have saved 1000's of dollars just by NOT having ventured into any kind of extremely low "probability" outcome of a sweep stake draw....though I did have fun playing baccarat at the casinos which indeed did have a much higher "probability" of doubling your bet... that too came with many a sleepless night just by standing around a crowded table trying to figure where to put yr hard earned money/chips on which was actually a pretty straight forward bet It is a comparing card game played between two hands, the "player" and the "banker". Each baccarat coup has three possible outcomes: "player", "banker", and "tie".

However even after multiple trips to these casinos I slowly but surely realized I was just not making any headway and so I gave that up too....ahh...well maybe that too.

@manwonder

Only my humble opinion I am guessing.

omga

Yes

I don't believe this is random luck.

See previous incident when someone investigates the lottery and wins the jackpot.

https://apnews.com/article/d618df14b3fc … 0e95282c97

The lottery is a TAX on poor people.

The odds on winning was approximately 11 million to one. You would have had better odds if you were on Malaysia Flight 370 and your family collected the life insurance.

Postscript: I lived in Las Vegas, Nevada. . . . No Power Ball, Mega Ball or Mega Millions, closest area to purchase tickets was in Arizona.

I had a job that took me to Arizona once a week, each week I would purchase $10 worth of tickets for my wife. Then my wife hit four numbers for $100. The place I bought the tickets was a convenience store just off the interstate.

Cashing the ticket I asked what was the biggest prize they ever sold? they told me the $100 winner I had. I asked the next biggest winner? $3

I left with $95 after tipping the seller. Leaving the parking lot I saw an indigent poor soul who looked like Brad Pitt, I've seen him several times before. I tried giving him $5, he refused several times before accepting the money.

Several days later I had this dream.

My luck had changed for the worst, now I'm indigent sitting in the parking lot, up rolls a limo and the window rolls down, it's the Brad Pitt looking guy. He tells me with the $5 I gave him he spent it on Lotto Tickets and won millions of dollars.

He said he wanted to thank me and to help me. He handed me $5 and said buy a lotto ticket.

The lottery is a TAX on poor people.

& Brad Pitt looking guy. He tesaid he wanted to thank me and to help me. He handed me $5 and said buy a lotto ticket.

-@Enzyte Bob

Hahahaha....so much of love & kindness in the air..

Well it looks like some of us believe the result could have been fixed and some believe not, myself I am fairly positive that here in the UK, it cannot be. To my knowledge the tills at the shops, off licences, etc are all linked to Lotto and they would know if a ticket was sold after the draw if that is even possible. But can the Bookmakers be manipulated?

I would like to share with you an interesting story that I saw in a documentary on TV a few years ago. In the programme one of the people they spoke to used to go watch tennis matches, not the main tour events but satellite and challenger tournaments, small tournaments with small crowds. Now apparently, and I did not know this, the umpire has a button he presses after each point and this is linked to the scoreboard and the bookmakers. The bookmakers allow people to bet on which player will win the next point among other things. So this guy, who knows what he is looking for, goes around the courts looking for an umpire who is a little slower at pressing the button after the point is won. He grew his hair to hide the blue tooth in his ears and was communicating with somebody sat at home logged in to a betting site and that particular match. That person would fill in the bet, the amount told to him by the guy watching the match. When the guy at the match saw the point was won he would tell the person back on the PC at home to press the bet button and they would win the bet.

The guy said in the documentary that he was clearing about 300 thousand a year. He had a team of 5 or 6 people sat at home doing the betting for him one at a time, so one for each match and they obviously got a cut. Now if you think about tennis and how long there are between points with the players going to the ball boy or girl nearly every time for a towel to wipe the racket grip and their hands and faces, there is plenty of time for the person betting to prepare the bet online so they only need to hit the bet button when told to.

Obviously from time to time the bookmakers would cotton on and stop betting but with the guy having 5 or 6 people to place the bets and with so many bookmakers out there, he made it work. There were other factors to consider for him. The practice is called Court Siding and there is a You Tube Video out there on the web explaining how he did it with the guy explaining it. There is even a demonstration on there, showing them doing it.

Anyone for Tennis?

Also let us not forget the big mistake the Bookmakers in the UK made back when Dallas the TV show was on. They took bets on who shot JR and the series was show on British TV a few months after the US. They simply forgot about that fact so when the new series started in the US and the killer was revealed, lots of people here in the UK who had family and friends in the US simply contacted them to find out who did it and raced to place their bets.

Here in PA I get to ride the bus for free because the daily number pays 500 to 1 and the odds are 1000 to 1, so a person must have twice the normal luck to break even. All one must do to ride the bus for free is turn 65 years old.  I blame greed and the school system for the losers

@mugteck

K. good for you.

Here in PA I get to ride the bus for free because the daily number pays 500 to 1 and the odds are 1000 to 1, so a person must have twice the normal luck to break even. All one must do to ride the bus for free is turn 65 years old. I blame greed and the school system for the losers
-@mugteck

Mugteck . . . .Are you old enough to remember Nick Perry who fixed the daily number in PA? (April 24, 1980) The winning number was "666". The number 4 & 6 ball were weighted down by being injected with paint.

Also in the Pittsburgh phone book (Perry lived in Pittsburgh) his name & phone number was on page "666"

Remember the outcry, not the details since there was no way I was going to play.  Lotteries and gambling in general hurt people who can least afford it, even when it's not fixed.

@mugteck

With respect to gambling if we can separate the 2 things, I would agree with you that it can cause people a whole lot of hurt and not just them but their families also. The lottery though I think is another thing. I don't know about other countries but here in the UK the proceeds help many charities and other worthwhile causes. That can only be a good thing.

The problem I see is that the main, the first and original lottery has now spawned and we now have a bunch of other lotteries like the Postcode lottery, Euro Millions, The Health Lottery, etc and not to forget the many scratch cards sold also. This is where I think the main problem is. I have seen pensioners lining up in the supermarket spending £20 or £30 on scratch cards in one go so who knows how much they spend on them each month.

I think if we just had the original lottery and there were no scratch cards that would not be such a bad thing.