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hakkab

Hello every body.


I'm hakim french algerian nationality.


Living in algeria


I have bought like french with my wife a property at 51000 to ask self sponsorship for us and my 4 childrens.


I'd need some information for the process because i 'm always living in algeria and i can't go a in bahrain now




1: I have the title deed at the two name


2: Impossible to have ewa bill or municipality bill without cpr. Municipality refused and for ewa the building sell me elecricity ans water no need ewa.


I have ask self sponsor contact. they tell they accept bill from building.


3 : i need health insurance for my familly. Do you have contact to take it online? Please.

4: certificate of good conduct doesn't exist in france or algeria. It's just an extract from the criminal record. Is this enough?


I'd like to process online. For the responce i have read on the forum it take 1 at 6month  .ok for that



After the response you can tell me exactly what i do. When i paied fees? When i come with my familly for biometric step. I 'd like to do all step possible alone and come with my familly direct for the last step thanks a lot for yours responses.

XTang

Scroll through this.  I have put the process there in detail:


https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=750635


1) For husband and wife, no issue

2) So if they accept, you don't have an issue here

3) For visa purpose, many companies offer a 2 year policy.  Google it and contact them.  Try solidarity, GIG etc

4) You need a police clearance certificate (same thing as good conduct certificate)


It can take anywhere from 3 to 6 months.  For rare few, it can take a year or more.


Again, read the thread for the rest of your questions.

hakkab

Thanks I read it right now

hakkab

Thanks for your information  and your time. I have read all but  i need confirmation.

So , i process online. Wait response , if it's accepted.

I paied fees online or at the office?

I can go with all passeport alone

To get them stamped?

Sorry

XTang

Everything is online. There is no stamp in passport either - it's a digital residence permit.

hakkab

Ok thanks Xtang

hakkab

Hi

I'd like to come with familly

Health insurance is mandatory for all applicants or just for father /mother?

Health insurance is little expansive

Thanks

XTang

Mandatory for all applicants.


This is a visa for people who have money.  Don't expect any savings anywhere. Remember that you will pay 600 BD plus for EACH applicant once visa is approved..... So if you are worried about insurance right now, you are not going in the right direction 1f602.svg.

hakkab

This visa have and Some Pros and Cons

Person have selfsponship can open activity commerical them self in bahrain? Without Partnerless?

XTang

As I keep saying, read the link I pasted.  SS has nothing to do with activity and partners.  If you open a company, whether or not you need a partner is determined by the activity of the company. If the activity requires a Bahraini partner, than it does require it, no matter what your visa. Also, as an Expat, if you open a company as the only partner, it won't be active until you get on the visa of that company ie cancel SS visa.


I suggest you do more research before spending so much money. The only benefit of SS visa is to people who are either retired and plan to live here or work outside Bahrain but want to live here. Anyone who wants to work in Bahrain or set up business here should not go for SS visa.


And as I keep saying, read the link I posted plus the sticky on the forum about setting up companies. Because you keep asking questions which I have answered dozens of times before.

hakkab

Thanks . I have read the post 2 times.

For SS it was required do not working "For" public and private sector. For that it's ok.

But working for your self i wasn't sure. 

XTang

Read the other one.


https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=739858


Combining the two of them together, you can't work in Bahrain, period.  The only way it works is that if you set up a company in partnership with someone who then gets the investor visa to make the CR active.  You are an investor on the CR BUT not on that company's visa and not working on a day to day basis for that company.

hakkab

Effectively i have read just the first page. i will read all pages and i return if i don't understand some think.

hakkab

Hello.  Sorry what is RCR thanks

XTang

Can you paste what you are asking about?


In the thread, there is no word called RCR.   I think you made a typo.

hakkab

Yes sorry. I use  translator for reading post. It modify CPR by RCR.

XTang

CPR is the terminology for the identity card in Bahrain.   Once you have a residence visa, you can get it issued.  You need it for EVERYTHING i.e. get a phone connection, open a bank account, rent a property..............you can have a visa but if you don't have a CPR, you can do nothing.

hakkab

Yes without pcr all thing is very difficult

I'd like to open municipality to have bills at my name . Always refused. Sometime they tell me need cpr reading, somme time document with area in squaremeter  . . I have tell them i'm not yet resident and i provided scan from redbook title deed. The aera and the plan is in but always not accepted.

Have you been this problem?

XTang

Ask NPRA to provide you with a temporary CPR number.

hakkab

It's possible online?if yes do you have link thanks

XTang

Just email the self sponsorship section.  The people you are corresponding with for your visa application

hakkab

Ok thanks a lot

hakkab

They have tell i must apply before.

All step out bahrain is not impossible but not easy.

XTang

Read what I wrote before. That is only solution.

GuestPoster17120

@XTang

its 660 vat included, i paid today

hakkab

Hi . I'm going around in circles. Selfsponsort ship  agent ask me to going to cpr office to ask cpr number.  CPR office doesn't want to give me the CPR number without an ewa or municipality invoice. Ewa tells me I can't have an ewa account in fontana tower. Municipalty ask me ekey to open an account.  With my log . I don't have "open a account"  on my screen . need ekay for that . There is no ekay without cpr. I have no issu

XTang

Did you ask NPRA for a CPR number to be able to apply?


The EWA account is a Fontana issue.

hakkab

Is the npra agent ask me to going to isa town for asking cpr number.  So i think he can 't.

XTang

I think there is a massive communication gap as your English seems very weak. 


I have been telling you repeatedly to send an email to self sponsorship section and ask for a temporary CPR number so that you can register for municipality / EWA.  If they ask you to apply then apply and then ask for temporary CPR number so you can provide the rest of the documents.


This is what EVERYONE in your situation (no CPR) has done.    I know literally two other people who have done this over the last 2 months..........one lives in Saudi and the other is in Jordan.  Both didn't have CPRs.   Both got temporary CPR numbers from self sponsorship section.


I think you are not understanding what I am telling you.............I suggest to get someone who speaks good english to read what I wrote and explain to you.

hakkab

I understand and i have already asking for.

I have apply some day letter the agent send me email.


"Ok, so I will send email to CPR office today to issue your CPR and you enter Bahrain and go direct to CPR office .

After finish send me the number and please if you can come tomorrow or after tomorrow ."


"Yes in Isa Town, and go to special person and tell him I npra staff send you email to issue the CPR number"


What do you understand you with you very good english?

XTang

I don't appreciate the sarcasm.  You are the one asking for help and it is not anyone else's fault that you are not able to explain clearly what you did or not - this is what I meant by your English; your written English is very poor and it is a problem to understand what you are trying to say.


I have already told you that two other people in the same situation as you did exactly what I told them and their issue was sorted.


I was having trouble understanding what you are saying but was willing to try.  But now, with this sarcasm and attitude, I am not going to waste my time.  Good luck to you.

hakkab

Sorry. I know my English is bad, that's no reason to make fun of it. I ask for help because I need it. I don't need to be laughed at either

XTang

I wasn't making fun nor was I laughing.   I was simply asking you to explain the situation clearly i.e. if you can't, get someone's help.   Because it is frustrating for anyone to try and work through a communication gap.  Like the one now where you think people are making fun..........when they are not.

hakkab

Sorry it was very difficult with administration.

To sum up. Because of fontana I can't get an ewa invoice. So I hired someone to open an account for me at the municipality but he failed.  I then asked for a temporary CPR by email as you had advised me, I was asked to start by making my request. Once my file was complete, I made my application for myself and my family. I then contacted selfsponsorship so that they could combine my request with that of my family. I did point out that I did not have an ewa bill or a municipality. 3 weeks later he contacted me and asked me to come and pick up my CPR number. Thinking everything was going to be easy but the nightmare has only just begun.  The CPR office refuses because there is no invoice.


I've been going back and forth to the municipality for 7 days without success. In my application under the "income collection" tab I don't have all the tab available. The most important "open account" is not listed. So I'm stuck

In the "proof of residence" tab, I can only apply as a tenant, which is not suitable and wa refused.

XTang

Ok so let's try this.


Send email to the self sponsorship person telling them that cpr office is not giving you the number (don't give any reason).  Just put it across in a way that you are saying that you did exactly what he told you to and it didn't work.


Let him respond.  If it works, fine. If not, raise a complaint on tawasul website and address it to CIO, NPRA and also any other higher body that is related and detail the runaround you, as an investor is being given. If you speak Arabic then it's better to write it in Arabic.  Don't mention fontana or any of the issues related to that.


Usually on tawasul, they are responsive. Don't mark the complaint as closed until they resolve. Make sure to give feedback after every response from them.  Give a bahrain number where they can call you.

hakkab

Thanks. I have re ask him for cpr number temporary he say me " The CPR number issue only from the CPR office not from immigration"

I have complaint on tawasul. I'm waiting response

My treatment is strange but I'll wait

XTang

Just wait and see.


Respond to him and say "CPR office says that immigration has to tell them"..........you are doing this to create documentation for another tawasul complaint in the future.

hakkab

Hi . People who received their cpr number by selfsponsorship did they have an ewa account before. Since it is normally required for the application?

XTang

No and that is why I am surprised why you are facing problems.


I spoke to my friend just now. He applied for self sponsorship retirement visa. He was outside Bahrain. He did not have an apartment or EWA or even a rented accommodation. They told him to get temporary cpr paper from Isa town. He went there and they gave it to him without any problem. He used that to rent his accommodation and then uploaded lease agreement. The only thing he mentioned is that he had to go himself physically to pick it up..... No agents no nothing...the self sponsorship applicant has to go.

hakkab

Me when I first arrived. They took my title deed. By typing my address into the system, they found the name of the former owner. Which is true, he did not close his account with the municipality. From then on, everything was difficult. They asked me for an invoice in my name

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