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Lynda Entzion

Good day. I am planning a 3 month visit to Portugal in the fall of 2024. I am in the process of finding a place to rent during my stay. Does anyone have any suggestions on what they have experienced or recommendations?  Also do I need to get a Visa for the 3 months I planning to be there?

Thanks

Lynda

bobinportugal22

There is a new requirement to apply for a visa to travel to the EU. One used to be able to simply travel on a US passport but no longer.

JohnnyPT

@Lynda,


With a valid U.S. passport, you can stay up to 90 days for tourism or business during any 180-day period. Do not overstay. You must wait an additional 90 days before applying to re-enter the Schengen area. To stay longer than 90 days, you must have a visa.


https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/t … dex_en.htm


https://travel.state.gov/content/travel … engen.html

Strontium

Hi and welcome.


First I'd suggest you narrow your search to an area of two, this may be difficult if you have not spent time here previously (also can be difficult if you have spent time here previously). So maybe pick a few places and book  a week or so in each then decide where to stay for the rest of the time.  Here is a link to a site where places are listed for rent BUT if you do not know the country most of the locations may be meaningless. I  have no connection to this site.


https://www.olx.pt/imoveis/

Perpetual_traveler

I don't want to pour cold water on your plans but you should prepare yourself for how difficult this is going to be. When you hear people talk about a housing crisis in Portugal, it is real. Here is an example:


A 2 bedroom apartment in Lisbon listed on Idealista. Over 1000 email enquires on the first day. That's from this week.


If you try smaller places you will see statistics of 40 or 50 email contacts to the agent or owner on the first day.


The demand for any type of rental accommodation is hard to believe.

James in Portugal

@Perpetual_traveler I agree. This was my experience in a secondary city (Coimbra). New apartment listings are often snapped up within minutes.

TGCampo

The crisis of the rental market in Portugal can make Portugal unattractive. Even people that are finding a job in Lisbon might have to decline the offer because it is impossible or unaffordable to rent there. On the other hand, Portugal is looking for immigrants with money that can afford the asking prices. It works like a filter.

slugsurmamates

@TGCampo

Maybe not for much longer, though.

As NHR comes to an end, an average 10% of NHR persons will probably "disappear" every year from now on until 2034.  I know I will be one of those.

Along with Golden Visa, a large part of the influx of money underpinning high rental and property prices are likely, IMHO, to come to a shuddering halt .

That may sort out a large part of the high rental problem, what it does to the economy as a result, is questionable.

Not sure if Portugal can afford to lose this influx of income with nothing obvious as an alternative - apart from consistently high taxation of those who remain - and not feel a very cold wind in the medium/long term.

Perhaps, a significant percentage of those previous NHR persons may remain , yet I doubt that .

Many are elderly and on a fixed income, paying between 0%-10% income tax.  Increasing that to 30-40% tax, maybe even more, will simply drive those that have the resources to relocate elsewhere.

Does the Portuguese Government retain a hubris that makes them feel that Portugal is THE nation that expats favour above all other - and that the NHR was simply an added bonus, or are the majority of expats here because of NHR/Golden Visa, and with no family nor employment links, why would they simply not, literally, fly away?

JohnnyPT

What do the last posts have to do with the initial question? These last two years of wars, and the predictions for world leadership that are not promising, lead us to fear the worst. What's more, there are elections in Portugal in March next year, and everything can change, including keeping the NHR status, or changing tax policies. Everything changes like the direction and wind speed....


@slugsurmamates,

Argentina is waiting for you. Your ultra-liberal instincts may cool down a bit, with inflation at 150% a year...

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