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jumpmaster173

I recently got married in March. I now I have a 5 year marriage visa. It is my understanding that for the next 5 years I have to leave the country every 90 days and come back in country to stay current with this visa. That is crazy!! I would think, then again I am not always the sharpest pencil in the box, that being married to a Vietnamese national that I would not have to do this. Can anyone tell me the reasoning behind this? Is there anyway around this, either legal or illegal (tea money) to not have to leave and come back? If there is no way around this, what is the easiest, cheapest and quickest way to leave and come back in?

I would appreciate any help, suggestions or ideas on this

Thanks

Guest2023

You should get your wife to check the visa, you can  have your passport stamped every 3 months and pay 10usd without leaving Viet Nam. I do wonder why they use this system, if you marry someone that should mean you are married and have that 5 year visa and then extend it after its finished,these stupid border runs are a joke.

charmavietnam

I think you don't need to move but just renew after 3 months like colinoscapee suggested  smile.png
Yeah it may be a bit weird but they have their own reasons. Something like you can claim for citizenship if you stay continuously 5 years  smile.png

bluenz

It's called Giấy miễn thị thực, a 5 yr Visa Exemption, ( of which you will be lucky if you get 4 1/2 months ). Just because you marry a VN, doesn't automatically give you the Visa, you still have to apply for it. It cost me $10, 2 years ago, and another $10 every 90 days.

cth

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.p … 61#1837261

See the last few post by parmyd and budman.
I did it all in 1 day and it cost 200,000 dongs. Didn't need photocopies of anything either, don't know why.

jumpmaster173

email is b173rd@gmail.com

Red

Budman1
jumpmaster173 wrote:

email is b173rd@gmail.com

Red


YEA!!!!! The Herds back in town...... and no MPs around to screw with us this time.

No need for a visa run every 3 months with a VEC, just fill out the form, get it signed  (You, the sponsor and the local police chief where your registered) and take it and your passport to immigrations about a week before the current expiration date. 210,000VND, in and out, too easy guy.

jumpmaster173

BudManare you familiar with "The Herd"? Not many people outside the military know those numbers.

jumpmaster173

I forgot.what is a VEC?

bluenz
Budman1 wrote:
jumpmaster173 wrote:

email is b173rd@gmail.com

Red


YEA!!!!! The Herds back in town...... and no MPs around to screw with us this time.

No need for a visa run every 3 months with a VEC, just fill out the form, get it signed  (You, the sponsor and the local police chief where your registered) and take it and your passport to immigrations about a week before the current expiration date. 210,000VND, in and out, too easy guy.


In Da Nang it took a month to get the VEC, after that it's easy. VEC, Visa Exemption Certificate, helps to be married to a VN first, which you are Jumpmaster, if you were married outside of VN, there are more hurdles for you to jump over.

jumpmaster173

ThanksI was married in HCMC.

Anthony64

It is my understanding that you 'do not have to leave the counry'...only go to the nearest Immigration office, pay $10.00 and get it stamped again prior to the expiration of the 90 days.  I don't read Vietnamese, but the document on the wall states a $10.00 fee for such.  Don't know what you've been told, but that is how it is handled in Da Nang. 
I've been in and out of the country for the past 10 months and have yet to pay anything when re-entering.
The other option is simply go the day before yuor 90 days is up to the Cambodia border, pay the $20-25 for a one day visa; hit the casinos for a few hours and re-enter for free.

bluenz
Anthony64 wrote:

It is my understanding that you 'do not have to leave the counry'...only go to the nearest Immigration office, pay $10.00 and get it stamped again prior to the expiration of the 90 days.  I don't read Vietnamese, but the document on the wall states a $10.00 fee for such.  Don't know what you've been told, but that is how it is handled in Da Nang. 
I've been in and out of the country for the past 10 months and have yet to pay anything when re-entering.
The other option is simply go the day before yuor 90 days is up to the Cambodia border, pay the $20-25 for a one day visa; hit the casinos for a few hours and re-enter for free.


How many people actually read previous posts??????
I'll save you the trouble,     It's called Giấy miễn thị thực, a 5 yr Visa Exemption, ( of which you will be lucky if you get 4 1/2 months ). Just because you marry a VN, doesn't automatically give you the Visa, you still have to apply for it. It cost me $10, 2 years ago, and another $10 every 90 days.

Anthony64

He's already got the 5yr visa...just doesn't understand the reason behind the 90 days (in and out) or payment to immigrations every 90 days or before.  The reason behind...the most natural one is for the money...the second is to apply control in their eyes.
Believes he has to leave and re-enter every 90 days, which he doesn't...

bluenz
Anthony64 wrote:

He's already got the 5yr visa...just doesn't understand the reason behind the 90 days (in and out) or payment to immigrations every 90 days or before.  The reason behind...the most natural one is for the money...the second is to apply control in their eyes.
Believes he has to leave and re-enter every 90 days, which he doesn't...


Yes , we can see you read his original post, but obviously very few , ( if any ), of the following replies???? He was just calling it by the wrong name.

dannyyongkh

I also married with Vietnamese but outside VN and wonder why is more hard to get 5 years visa....pls advise....bcs I decided to stay permanently in ho chi minh

dannyyongkh

I also married with Vietnamese but outside VN and wonder why is more hard to get 5 years visa....pls advise....bcs I decided to stay permanently in ho chi minh

bluenz
dannyyongkh wrote:

I also married with Vietnamese but outside VN and wonder why is more hard to get 5 years visa....pls advise....bcs I decided to stay permanently in ho chi minh


Hi Danny, I married my VN wife in Australia, when applying for my VEC, it was almost like they didn't want to accept our Australian Marriage Cert, luckily we brought along photo's,  your Marriage Cert will need to be translated and certified by your Consulate/Embassy, ( I take it you married your partner in Singapore? )

dannyyongkh

Thanks for your advice bluenz, I  married my wife at Malaysia and also bring along marriage photo as well. If I really want to get 5 years visa at VN what is the next step after translate the marriage cert. Pls advise tq....

bluenz
dannyyongkh wrote:

Thanks for your advice bluenz, I  married my wife at Malaysia and also bring along marriage photo as well. If I really want to get 5 years visa at VN what is the next step after translate the marriage cert. Pls advise tq....


You will need to fill out an N5 form, your wife can do it, otherwise pay anywhere up to $200 for an agent to do it for. I'm trying to find a download for you, but the VN Immigration Dept website must be down at the moment.

Budman1
dannyyongkh wrote:

Thanks for your advice bluenz, I  married my wife at Malaysia and also bring along marriage photo as well. If I really want to get 5 years visa at VN what is the next step after translate the marriage cert. Pls advise tq....


Just type into GOOGLE " Vietnam form N5" and it'll show up on a few links. You can down load it as a word Doc. Might want to mention, you'll need to be able to type Vietnamese to fill it out.

jumpmaster173

To all that replied to my question about marriage visa's, I want to thank you for your input and advice, with the exception of je777, who seems to have an attitude. All of you offered great advice and didn't chastise me for asking stupid questions or not having the correct wording in my questions.
Again Thanks a lot.BudMan1 especially
Jumpmaster173

bluenz
jumpmaster173 wrote:

To all that replied to my question about marriage visa's, I want to thank you for your input and advice, with the exception of je777, who seems to have an attitude. All of you offered great advice and didn't chastise me for asking stupid questions or not having the correct wording in my questions.
Again Thanks a lot.BudMan1 especially
Jumpmaster173


Is he on this site as well?, maybe I will cancel my membership of this site as well, ( that will make a few VN ex Pat wantabe tossers on this site happy ), the stop watch is running.

dannyyongkh

Noted with thanks bluenz

Parmyd
dannyyongkh wrote:

I also married with Vietnamese but outside VN and wonder why is more hard to get 5 years visa....pls advise....bcs I decided to stay permanently in ho chi minh


I received my VEC in the States when I was married to my first wife. It only took 10 days to recieve it. The fee even went up and they still sent the VEC with a bill for the extra amount.

Guest2023

You are not required to leave the country when you have a VEC. Simply get the letter from your local ward police and go to immigrations and pay your quarterly fee. Very simple and easy.

Guest2023

Don't leave bluenz!!! Your input is very valuable. Please disregard any negativity
of the posts by Numb Nuts!!!!  The beer killed all their brain cells.

Norcal_Rick

Here's the information I found. You can stay in Vietnam and renew for $10 (200,000 VND) every 90 days providing all your paperwork is correct. I'm just pasting the information here that I found:

The 5 Year Visa Exemption is  great if you regularly travel to Vietnam to vacation or visit relatives and you dont want to apply for Visas each time.  The only problem is that the certificate states that you can only stay 90 days continuously in the country.which means that you must leave the country at least 4 times each year.or so I thought.  A few people I know with the Visa Exemption have been taking short vacations every few months due to the 90 day stipulation.  I, myself had planned on taking a trip to Cambodia via the Moc Bai border crossing to satisfy the 90 day rulebut that was before I found out that there was a way to extend your exemption  from within the country.  Thanks to a user in the Living in Vietnam forum, I learned that you can go to the Vietnamese Immigration office in Saigon (161 Nguyen Du) and obtain Form N14/M..officially called:
Application for visa renewal, replacement or modification, length of stay extension (Don De Nghi Cap, Bo Sung, Sua Doi Thi Thuc, Gia Han Tam Tru(1))


Form NM/14 Extension Form
When you get to the Immigration office, just walk straight to where the cashiers are and ask for the above form.  You will have to fill out the form and then sign it.  You also need to get 2 other signatures before you can turn in the application for an extension.   In my case, I just needed the signature of my Aunt because I live in her house, and the signature of the police in the ward where I live.  If you are staying  in a rental property you will most likely need the signature of your landlord.

After you get all your required signatures.go back to the immigration office and turn in your form.  You will need to also hand over your Passport with your application.  You should get a receipt that shows the date that you can pick up your Passport and pay the $10 fee for the application.  It should only take a week for you to get back your passport with a red and blue stamp approving your extension.  I was told that they used to allow extensions for up to 1 year.but recently due to the crackdown on foreigners in Vietnam, the maximum extension allowed is capped at 90 days.  So you will have to repeat this process 4 times a year unless you leave the country before your 90 days are up.
The entire process I described above is from the perspective of a U.S. Citizen applying for a 5 Year Visa Exemption and Extensionhowever I believe the steps for overseas Vietnamese (Spouses/Children) from other countries  should be similar.  Contact the Vietnamese Embassy in your respective countries to find out the exact steps you may need to obtain the 5 Year Visa Exemption.

Hope this helps. T[he main thing is to go to the Vietnamese Immigration office in Saigon (161 Nguyen Du) and obtain Form N14/M.  IF THERE IS A LONG LINE DON'T TAKE A NUMBER AND WAIT! There is a pile of the forms on a table and just go up and ask the person sitting there. GOOD LUCK! (haha...didn't see all the others who replied before me ;-)

bluenz
Norcal_Rick wrote:

Here's the information I found. You can stay in Vietnam and renew for $10 (200,000 VND) every 90 days providing all your paperwork is correct. I'm just pasting the information here that I found:

The 5 Year Visa Exemption is  great if you regularly travel to Vietnam to vacation or visit relatives and you dont want to apply for Visas each time.  The only problem is that the certificate states that you can only stay 90 days continuously in the country.which means that you must leave the country at least 4 times each year.or so I thought.  A few people I know with the Visa Exemption have been taking short vacations every few months due to the 90 day stipulation.  I, myself had planned on taking a trip to Cambodia via the Moc Bai border crossing to satisfy the 90 day rulebut that was before I found out that there was a way to extend your exemption  from within the country.  Thanks to a user in the Living in Vietnam forum, I learned that you can go to the Vietnamese Immigration office in Saigon (161 Nguyen Du) and obtain Form N14/M..officially called:
Application for visa renewal, replacement or modification, length of stay extension (Don De Nghi Cap, Bo Sung, Sua Doi Thi Thuc, Gia Han Tam Tru(1))


Form NM/14 Extension Form
When you get to the Immigration office, just walk straight to where the cashiers are and ask for the above form.  You will have to fill out the form and then sign it.  You also need to get 2 other signatures before you can turn in the application for an extension.   In my case, I just needed the signature of my Aunt because I live in her house, and the signature of the police in the ward where I live.  If you are staying  in a rental property you will most likely need the signature of your landlord.

After you get all your required signatures.go back to the immigration office and turn in your form.  You will need to also hand over your Passport with your application.  You should get a receipt that shows the date that you can pick up your Passport and pay the $10 fee for the application.  It should only take a week for you to get back your passport with a red and blue stamp approving your extension.  I was told that they used to allow extensions for up to 1 year.but recently due to the crackdown on foreigners in Vietnam, the maximum extension allowed is capped at 90 days.  So you will have to repeat this process 4 times a year unless you leave the country before your 90 days are up.
The entire process I described above is from the perspective of a U.S. Citizen applying for a 5 Year Visa Exemption and Extensionhowever I believe the steps for overseas Vietnamese (Spouses/Children) from other countries  should be similar.  Contact the Vietnamese Embassy in your respective countries to find out the exact steps you may need to obtain the 5 Year Visa Exemption.

Hope this helps. T[he main thing is to go to the Vietnamese Immigration office in Saigon (161 Nguyen Du) and obtain Form N14/M.  IF THERE IS A LONG LINE DON'T TAKE A NUMBER AND WAIT! There is a pile of the forms on a table and just go up and ask the person sitting there. GOOD LUCK! (haha...didn't see all the others who replied before me ;-)


How about reading the,   "  A quick guide to Certificate of Visa Exemption (VEC), Vietnam post "??????, at the top of the Forum page, you make it sound like anyone can get this visa, there are REQUIREMENTS, i.e, having a VN spouse, or being a VK, etc.
  An N5 form ,  completed by your VN sponsor, ( wife, etc, ), is for renewing a VEC, every 90 days.
An N14 is for an ordinary Visa extension. ( Tourist , etc ).
Plus it doesn't cost you any more money if your paperwork is not correct, just time and frustration, .this will happen regularly, as the Govt departments have a habit of not cooperating with each other.

ancientpathos
jumpmaster173 wrote:

To all that replied to my question about marriage visa's, I want to thank you for your input and advice, with the exception of je777, who seems to have an attitude. All of you offered great advice and didn't chastise me for asking stupid questions or not having the correct wording in my questions.
Again Thanks a lot.BudMan1 especially
Jumpmaster173


Only the suicidal or fools would attempt to chastise a Sky Soldier. The 173rd has a history which defines honor and valor!

Tutenkamen

Since you are married, maybe look into a Residence Card.

Dejavu.dot
Tutenkamen wrote:

Since you are married, maybe look into a Residence Card.


I think residence card is available for expats who are businessmen or have work permit. There is another way to live in VN permanent is changing your nationality.

Buenze is an expert in Visa exemption!

Tutenkamen

One can get a residence card if one marries a Vietnamese. I do know this.   We did it.

Bottom line though..Viet Nam is a place where the skids can be greased. In other words; money talks.

DHuong

I am a little late, i know, on this topic of discussion, but i just joined & saw the topic.I don't know where you get the $10 for an extension every 90 days from,but i would really like to know.I am married to a VN citizen,we have a daughter together, & i have been here almost 9 mos.I have to pay $70-$80 each extension,and now i am told that when i go to extend in Oct.,because the back of my visa is full of stamps,i will have to pay $200 for a visa renewal.I thought about a temporary or permanent resident card, but don't know a thing about it, or if it would be the way to go,or even possible. The way things are going now is pretty smooth,but don't like the fees i have to pay.Remember,this is not a democratic political system like in the US where i am from. I know from experience that foreigners are not always treated the same, and they seem to think that Americans all have an endless supply of money. I was,basically,forced to pay $1,200USD back in 2007 just to be legally married to my wife & sign the 'big marriage record book'.You can object,argue & fight them over things,but you will most likely just create more problems than you started with,& than it is worth.I would still love to know about the $10 visa extension fee.Thanks,Dennis

Guest2023

Maybe you need your wife to get it done for you as it is only 10 usd every three months.

DHuong

Thanks for the reply colinscapee.My wife is the one that gets it done every time.The local police station in Le Chanh & then with the office in An Giang. Where can i go and only pay $10,and is there a website or anything i can see in writing?I want to tell my wife & see what she says,and it would be nice to show her something in writing.I trust her & believe she is telling me the truth,so i just give her the money & let her take care of everything.Maybe i need to ask to see a receipt for what she pays.Thanks again,Dennis

Guest2023

Dennis
Someone posted a link on here in relation to the way it works. I also notice you paid 1200usd to get the marriage license. My mate just did it in Phan Thiet and only cost him 400usd for everything. Maybe someone has been making a few dollars off you.

DHuong

Yea colinoscapee,i thought of that years ago,and don't doubt it one bit.But anyway,i am still curious as to exactly where do these people go to only pay $10 for a 90-day extension.Is it some company,travel agency,the Embassy, or where? Also, are they in Saigon, Hanoi, Da Nang, or where?I read people saying $10, but noone has yet to say WHERE.I would really like to know so i can tell my wife & hopefully save us some big money each year.Thanks again.

Budman1

Check out this like it has all the information you've been requesting:

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=369913

If it still doesn't answer your questions, re-post and I'll give you a hand.

Guest2023

The usual process is getting a document signed by your local ward police or area police then take it to the department at immigration. What she is paying seems like someone or the police are making money at your expense.

Not sure where you are, but if your in Saigon you and your wife can head down to the office on Nguyen Trai Street D1, I think its number 254. Make sure you take all relevant documents with you. Being married in Viet Nam is not an easy process as money alwyas has to be paid to someone.

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