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Alascana

The articles below are amazing for the things are out of control yet are controllable,

Pressure on Brazil's Rousseff may rise as jobless lose benefits | Reuters
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/brazi … WP2Z8?il=0

And another thing! If one has time to read.

U.N. worried about Brazil as poverty seen rising in Latin America | Reuters
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/brazi … WO2HS?il=0
Enjoy the read for me it's mind-boggling.
Have a G8 day.

Alascana

Denial infinite!

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/r … peachment/

No explanation, I could not explain this if I tried. Enjoy the read if you have time and interest for Denial is my take on the situations, yes situations.

Alascana

Scandalous , I am glad I do not suffer with headaches, one would think there would be a clue, but no one just keep on going, there is no forsee able end to the saga. Enjoy if you have time.

Brazil: insider claims Rousseff coalition took funds from Belo Monte mega-dam | World news | The Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a … -monte-dam
just krazee!

Alascana

Dilma Rousseff asks Brazil supreme court to delay impeachment process | World news | The Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a … mpeachment
for those interested! !

Alascana

Facing Impeachment Vote in Brazil, Dilma Rousseff Accuses Vice President of Conspiracy - The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/world … .html?_r=0

The Blame Game is a tad  it late as one will grasp for air! Just chiming in!

Alascana

Well it looks like the vote from the lower house has passed the right on to the next level for the Impeachment process to continue as it will become messier as the days go on. I wonder what will be the total fall out for the folks voting for the Impeachment seems as if most have a axe to grind and most are suspect themselves of graft and corruption. I am neutral on the political ramblings and I hope when this ends for Brasil will have years of work to clean up this Hot Me$$. I wonder if any lessons will be learned by the Future Politicians and Will the One's who come to Power address the Needs of the People and the Country for it cannot continue on the Current Path.

spanishpete

most politicians address the own needs here "MONEY"

Alascana

More fodder, next it will be a novel! It's like the gift no one wants! Enjoy the read if you have time!

Brazilian scandal rivets nation: 'A scary telenovela' - CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/04/americas/ … _expansion

VictoriaChandler

Tonight, my husband and I had dinner with our favorite Brazilian couple, and during dinner, we discussed yesterday's turn of events. Out of the four of us, the men would have voted "Yes" and the women would have voted "No," but one thing that we all agreed on was that "Dilma needs to go." Personally, I would have voted "No" on the grounds that all this talk of impeachment just stinks of political maneuvering (If I stop and think about WHO benefits the most from Dilma's possible removal, it becomes very clear as to who is doing the maneuvering.) and also because I believe that there is no constitutional basis for impeachment. Did Dilma commit a crime? Probably. But the official charge is that Dilma used "accounting tricks to mask deficits," and it's flimsy at best compared to the mountain of charges that are pending against numerous corrupt Brazilian politicians - some of whom cast their votes last night!

According to the article below,

Stunning Impeachment Statistics

"Of 65 members on the impeachment commission, 37 face charges of corruption or other serious crimes, according to data prepared for the Los Angeles Times by the local organization Transparencia Brasil.

Of the 513 members of the lower house in Congress, 303 face charges or are being investigated for serious crimes. In the Senate, the same goes for 49 of 81 members."


What a sad joke!  :mad:

However, I still think that Dilma should resign because at this point, she is clearly ineffective as a leader and this does not help Brazil.  :/

Funny tidbits about last night's proceedings that I learned from my Brazilian friends tonight:

1. A clown - yes, Representative Tiririca is an actual former clown - voted last night. Perhaps he was the only one qualified to vote in this circus that we call Brazilian politics. Ha!

2. A female representative who delivered an anti-corruption speech before voting "Yes" last night, had her husband arrested today on corruption charges. LOL

3. Representative Jean Wyllys, who won Big Brother Brazil, is openly gay, spit on the conservative homophobic Representative Jair Bolsonaro, who is known as the "Donald Trump of Brazil."

4. One representative denounced Temer, Cunha, corruption and then proceeded to vote..."Yes." LOL

To see some of the most outrageous (and embarrassing) moments from last night, click below. (In Portuguese)

Outrageous Moments from Last Night

Alascana

Let the hilarity ensue, it is like a running joke, you just cannot catch it. It is a real mess. I can only laugh for the country is in shambles and the pranksters are living it up at the stake of the world and the world is watching. It is amusing for the country to just continue to put up with this nonsense. I do find the matter serious as the crisis mode is about the Olympics, Zika, H1N1, pollution, sanitation, corruption, economics and in agreement this impeachment is a farce and the mask of the politicians is a sad cover up for something more sinister waiting in the wings for only the people of Brasil will suffer for years for the politicians will continue to be paid for life and live fat and happy. Well enough of my rant. This play and players have bad timing and bad acting skills.

Alascana

Well now we maybe know? Just sharing a couple of things floating around the wold on this subject!

Dilma Rousseff's road to impeachment: How did Brazil get here?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016 … -get-here/

But  Wait there's More?

The fallout from Dilma Rousseff's impeachment will reach beyond Brazil | Richard Bourne | Opinion | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre … -be-global

As the World Churns!

Alascana

Is thus a cure or the disease, James spoke of!

Brazil’s Vice President Says He Is Ready to Take Over - WSJ

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazils-vic … 1461260612

just sharing, just when I thought it was safe! I was thinking Wrong again. This individual has his own shawdow am I living in  reoccurring nightmare, I'm trying to have faith. Next man to walk the plank one question when a political figure is impeached and the impeachment is sucessful does one get a pension for life, just wondering about the money game?
I haven't given in or up. Enjoy the Side Show as I am sure we are in this for the long haul ! Succession is a Game. OMG

spanishpete

1/3 of the voters call it impeachment,,, 2/3, of the voters call it "democracy", it funny how the "now" loser, don't want to call it "Democracy", but a coup,,, and now it trying to involve other country's in her problem,,, so in other word's if you don't want me, I will try and make it really difficult for the country to run, when Ive have gone
some one should tell here that she is Guilt by association
  Guilt by association means that you personally didn't really do something wrong but that people who you are associated with did. You are judged by the company you keep, so you can be viewed as guilty because of your association with wrongdoers.

Alascana

It all seems to be a diversion and shell game for this is a political me$$! It seems all the bad actors have been scripted and type cast in this never ending saga. It's like nobodies watching the oven and the bread is burning. Everyone is trying to save there hide and continue with this bad story. It will take decades to clean up this me$$ for who ever inherits it or elected to the position all will be pardoned for no one will see the inside of a lovely Brazilian Jail . I gue$$ when you become a lifetime criminal you write the laws and violate as one chooses is this a set up for Military Rule to bring order to this chaos? And I thought Belem was Rain City! Just a rant.
I wonder if complaining to the powerless U.N is a deaf ear. Looks like someone lost the futebol game and wants to deflate the ball.

spanishpete

well there be all grassing each other up, and then the Feds come knocking on the door,
for the very long "interview" this lot will be pooing them self's

Alascana

Another incident. The hits just keep on being handed out, can it get any more ridiculous,
just chiming in. Enjoy if you like.

Rousseff Rival Who Lost 2014 Race Investigated for Corruption | News | teleSUR English

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/R … -0045.html

Alascana

Well it just has to get better at some point.

Hypocritical Brazil Fraud Probe Targets Rousseff, Ignores Temer | News | teleSUR English

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/H … -0018.html

Just staying tuned in. Enjoy the read

spanishpete

start from the top and work down come's to mind

spanishpete

its getter even better
from the BBC

Brazil's Rousseff denies claims of obstruction of justice

Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff says accusations that she tried to block a major corruption investigation into state-owned oil company Petrobras are "false and irresponsible".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36204115

Alascana

Well it just keeps going, everything is up in the air. This is out of control. I wonder what else can go right.

Brazil Supreme Court suspends Rousseff impeachment architect Cunha

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazil-supre … html?nhp=1

Will anyone be left standing.

spanishpete

yes I read that, there all out to get each other,

Alascana

And another thing! Will there be a survivor as for now the 1,2,3 count is on.

Brazil's anti-corruption prosecutor: graft is 'endemic. It has spread like cancer' | World news | The Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d … estigation

And another thing

The Most Powerful -- And Corrupt -- Politician in Brazil Just Went Down - Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/shannonsims … b10ade1241

When the History is written who will Stand Tall.
enjoy the read if one has time, I'm going to pour a cold one, pull up the chair, relax and pop some corn and watch from far away in country of course.

Alascana

Well another one has been suckered in to the quagmire, who's number 4 on the chain of command, just a rant and rave .

Watch Lawmaker's Removal Adds to Brazil's Turmoil on Times Video

http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/amer … l?emc=eta1
This makes good TV, or a long story. Enjoy if of interest and time permitting.

Alascana

This keeps getting crazy by the moment. One minute your down and all of a sudden your up. I would say ridiculous yet why. I am waiting to see how this plays out, what a novel, this makes excellent watching , where's my popcorn and cold one.

Brazil impeachment drive against Rousseff tips into chaos

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazil-impea … html?nhp=1
enjoy if you have time. Makes me ask myself Who's Who?!

Alascana

Well it looks like something is all ways a mist. It just keeps getting in a mash up.


Rogues' gallery to decide fate of Brazilian leader
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rogues-galle … html?nhp=1
as I wait with baited breathe.
just chiming in this is just getting nutter each day!

Alascana

The more things change or stay the same, I'm waiting on the next process. I am not finding humor in this, yet it is what it is, my question is another impeachment in the wings.

Brazil's new president is unpopular, too

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl … /84273902/

I think I'll go for a twofer? W8 is that a word? Might as well laugh if not cry!

The Guardian view on Dilma Rousseff’s impeachment: the political system should be on trial, not one woman | Editorial | Opinion | The Guardian

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre … -one-woman

Enjoy the read if you have time. And no it is not a rant.

Alascana

Well maybe somebody  has a handle on what went wrong or right. This plot has a twist and a turn this is for serious  players only

Watch "What's gone wrong for Brazil? BBC News" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/KF81pjZ7ppQ
will it be figured out in 180 days after that we have 365 to go and it's election time or will it be selection time.
Enjoy if you have time.
I wonder how accurate this story is? Didn't realize it was a popularity contest, just saying!

Brazil's new president is unpopular, too
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl … /84273902/
Enjoy if one has the time. I will take the W8 and C approach.

spanishpete

Its all down to greed,, and there's no one of them will give it up
greedy people don't like to show to other's that there greedy

Alascana

Well at least someone is still talking
Dilma Rousseff Blasts New Cabinet in First Interview Since Coup | News | teleSUR English
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/D … -0057.html

Alascana

Now how will this play end for there is no forsee able solid leadership. This could turn into a Rant. No I will remain calm and at peace. Looks like 2 impeachments possible?
Protests in Brazil's 2 biggest cities against acting leader
https://www.yahoo.com/news/protests-kee … html?nhp=1
time and money and no results. Just say n. What is it a comedy or drama?

Alascana

I do not think this will make it this far?
Final vote on impeachment could come 3 days before Olympics
https://www.yahoo.com/news/final-vote-i … html?nhp=1
to much action is not good. If it happens, will the people take to the streets? I question the motives and timing.

Gordon Barlow

Most of the web-links on this Forum are to "mainstream media" sites, which almost always follow the official line of Western governments (the USA and its allies), so to provide some balance I'm posting (below) a link to a news-source that doesn't follow that line. In the alternative media, the removal of Brazil's elected President is being called a US coup, with the CIA heavily involved. Of course none of us can know exactly what's going on,l but the CIA does have "form" in the region, going back many, many decades.
http://www.rt.com/news/343390-brazil-ro … chment-us/

spanishpete

if you really wanted the truth, then look at RT tv,  :lol::lol:  I think not
I hope my life never depend,  on RT,  :sosad:
up the works

Alascana

Yes it is a Coup, no if and butts about it, yes it is MSM at its finest. It is about breaking up the BRICS and protecting the Petrodollar. One has to be well read to work with all the underlying crap being spread. I am wondering where do we go from here. It seems all are corrupt it's like 6 of one and a Half dozen of the Other. I wonder how long will the people accept this facade for it is Coup. Now that the plots are being exposed the back room dealings, the cooperation with other governments and the puppets will continue to chase and bow down to the Petrodollar. I do think the current administration which is temporary will be it's own worse enemy as they are turning on each other the recordings are being exposed and the plot has been exposed, so I ask Where do We go from Here. Everybody needs to be in Jail and maybe it will happen. Just a rant and agreement.

Gordon Barlow

Well, Pete. Where do you go when you want to read an alternative to the Western mainstream media (BBC, NYT, Guardian, etc)? Or don't you ever want to?

RT.com is also "mainstream media", but on the other side. I find it fairly reliable as an alternative to the usual US/NATO propaganda. Here's a recent blog of mine that disrespects the latter. Members of the forum should feel free to comment on it. (It wasn't written as a debating point, because my blogsite doesn't deal in debates; but it states a point of view - an anti-war one, most of the time.)
http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2016/ … -hand.html

spanishpete

RT dose have a different point of View and that's a good thing, Ive been in some of the places that RT have reported from, the Pictor RT paint, isn't nothing like they say,,
the only media that get near the truth is the BBC,
I'm I to believe, your "anti war", well so am i as well, but believe me its coming

Gordon Barlow

spanishpete wrote:

...the only media that get near the truth is the BBC


The BBC lied to me - and the entire world - about Saddam Hussein's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and that lie began the wholesale slaughter of a million people in the Middle East and the destruction of much of the region's infrastructure. It has never expressed any remorse, and is never likely to. It reports what its controllers tell it to report - nothing less, nothing more.

Its reporting of the situation in Brazil follows the same pattern. It is not allowed to report anything but the officially authorised side of any international conflict, whether it's WMDs or the CIA's version of what's going on in Brazil. Pete, you can sneer at me all you want, but I do my "due diligence" by checking other news-sources, and I recommend that every other member of this forum do the same.

philmoto85

I like the intercept. Glenn Greenwald, who broke the Edward Snowdon leak is one of the principals there. He is definitely no the mainstream and as he lives in Rio has a closer perspective. He has done reporting on the site in English and Portuguese. He interviewed Dilma after the impeachment. I though the interview was sympathetic but in general I think his reporting has been fair.

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/new … is-a-coup/

Gordon Barlow

philmoto85 wrote:

I like the Intercept. Glenn Greenwald, who broke the Edward Snowdon leak is one of the principals there. He is definitely no the mainstream and as he lives in Rio has a closer perspective. He has done reporting on the site in English and Portuguese. He interviewed Dilma after the impeachment. I though the interview was sympathetic but in general I think his reporting has been fair.
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/new … is-a-coup/


I agree with you that The Intercept carries some good-value stuff. Another reliable source is Consortium News. Here's one of its commentators' take on the current coup in Brazil:
http://consortiumnews.com/2016/03/30/a- … or-brazil/

Alascana

I read Everything being I am still in the USA for now and what a whirlwind romance it is, I am totally unbiased with the reporting for it is a job and we all know jobs are hard to come by and the media will sensationalize and villianize by any means necessary to twist, turn,trample for one to not be objective. I see criminals turning on criminals in my day we called them finks,rats,crooks and lower than? So you know where I'm going with this for no matter how you slice or cook it, it smells to high hades. I see the media providers as shills and slant the story to appease the masses who do not read or take the time to investigate every twist and turn. I follow a lot of rags and they all are biased for it sells papers. The MSM has it owners and share holders in mind and the more crap they can feed the masses the more toilet paper one needs. Somewhere there is a saving grace as for now lob the football and hope for a hail Mary for as I can see there is no one there to catch it. Whatever happened to telling the Whole Story verbatim. As it is said there Are Two Sides to Every Story and I grow weary of the one sided story reporting. And yes this was a Rant on Shady Reporting. Now I know why they changed the name from Story to Article for most of the  MSM is faux art./ lol
Watch "Noam Chomsky: Brazil's President Dilma Rousseff "Impeached by a Gang of Thieves"" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/33V-JTtYbqE
Watch "Brazillian Impeachment Is Actually A Corporate Coup" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/GZ2cOLXByq8
Enjoy if you have time, just more shrapnel or fodder. :cool::thanks::mad::sosad::sick

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