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Enzyte Bob

Back in mid December after jumping through all the hoops and red tape finally had the paperwork completed and submitted for my permanent ACR-1 card and hopefully 13A. (Main BI office Manila).

Found out after three months it was finally issued and planned to go to the main BI office tomorrow (Monday). My son tells me the office is closed due to increases of Covid.

Also I'm locked down here in Pasig City, only 18 up to 65 years allowed out. Sky Cable & internet went  offline in the morning and not restored to 10 pm. A very boring day with no TV, Email, Internet (Netflix, You Tube and various Social Media for everyone in the house.)

Jackson4

I always bring a deck of cards with me when I travel but problems like this only happen when I come unprepared. Go figure.
I keep a couple of games in the house: deck of cards, monopoly, chess, scrabble.
Deck of cards (and chips to bet) is always the winner.

coach53

Jackson4 wrote:

I always bring a deck of cards with me when I travel but problems like this only happen when I come unprepared. Go figure.
I keep a couple of games in the house: deck of cards, monopoly, chess, scrabble.


Yes. Back when travelling  I brought chess and cards.  (My family have two card games as part of "branding" and I were a national known chessleader.)
Many years ago I could entertain myself unlimited time with just paper and pen, but now I have got spoiled by computers  :)    (= Office programs instead oif paper andd pen. Computer games.) Internet has added both entertainment and useful things, but during hot days at veranda I just bring an old laptop, which can't use internet.
Back when I were 10yo I missed a piece to finnish a project and shops were closed so I couldn't get it so I were bored ONE day   :)   
That was the only time ever, but I have started to become a bit bored by an injury has made I can't get toi Phils to start the plans I have had ready some years, so now I'm starting one of the two planned businesses anyway at distance.  It's kind of boring with the slow process with documents, but I do other things during waiting to avoid geting bored   :)

mugtech

Jackson4 wrote:

I always bring a deck of cards with me when I travel but problems like this only happen when I come unprepared. Go figure.
I keep a couple of games in the house: deck of cards, monopoly, chess, scrabble.
Deck of cards (and chips to bet) is always the winner.


I never go anywhere in the Philippines without having at least one paperback book with me.  Even when all electronics are functioning I spend a lot of time waiting for people in a van, in a store, at a bus station etc.  When in the USA I ship at least a dozen books to the Philippines for the next trip.  The worst thing about spending two extra months in the Philippines was running out of books.

pilotdrh

I always have my Kindle with me, portable library.

AaronAardvark

Do you really worry about the 65 thing?  I am well past that and I have been out an about hundreds of times.  Not one time was I even questioned about it.  There were a few times when I was placed in the senior citizen ques though.

Enzyte Bob

AaronAardvark wrote:

Do you really worry about the 65 thing?  I am well past that and I have been out an about hundreds of times.  Not one time was I even questioned about it.  There were a few times when I was placed in the senior citizen ques though.


I'm not worried about the 65 thing, but I'm am concerned about getting Covid and not about to go out  hundreds times like you, or exposing many people on 100 foraging trips around and about if I was a silent carrier.

I'd rather be about the solution of the problem and not the cause of the problem.

PalawanBob

I keep quiet here in the jungle but I keep my eyes open just in case monkeys or bayawaks start falling dead from the trees.
According to daily TV News, folks in the big cities are falling dead like flies.
Is that true?

FortuneFavorsTheBold

Covid 🤣😂

PalawanBob

Ahhh, I miss the good old days when TV News used to be real. Every day was interesting, the stories were always different, nowadays it's always the same (covid) story ,... over and over again. So boring!
By the way, I go for a 2km walk to see my sick friend, hear the latest on his TV and read the Expat posts on his lap top. He is also tired of the same. Instead, in the evening, for entertainment, we sit on his porch to watch the satellites passing and have a San Miguel and watch fire flies.
All I need is my little radio from the good old days to listen to pre 1980's music. I am not interested by the satanic music of today.
No Internet connection and no TV in the jungle. Life is so peaceful here.

FortuneFavorsTheBold

The best music originated in the '70's.

Enzyte Bob

PalawanBob wrote:

Ahhh, I miss the good old days when TV News used to be real. Every day was interesting, the stories were always different, nowadays it's always the same (covid) story ,... over and over again. So boring!
By the way, I go for a 2km walk to see my sick friend, hear the latest on his TV and read the Expat posts on his lap top. He is also tired of the same. Instead, in the evening, for entertainment, we sit on his porch to watch the satellites passing and have a San Miguel and watch fire flies.
All I need is my little radio from the good old days to listen to pre 1980's music. I am not interested by the satanic music of today.
No Internet connection and no TV in the jungle. Life is so peaceful here.


All you need is a good Cigar, or a pouch of Redman Chew (That would put me in heaven.)

PalawanBob

I don't smoke but I love a good glass of wine if someone offers it.
My friend makes so & so red wine and I bake delicious crusty French baguette but we both miss a good Italian cheese or German sausage.
If anyone of you dreamers come over here, please bring a good bottle of wine and cheese and we'll celebrate like it's 1970's again.
Life in the jungle can be quite nice when holding and smelling a classy glass of good quality wine.

Jackson4

PalawanBob wrote:

I don't smoke but I love a good glass of wine if someone offers it.
My friend makes so & so red wine and I bake delicious crusty French baguette but we both miss a good Italian cheese or German sausage.
If anyone of you dreamers come over here, please bring a good bottle of wine and cheese and we'll celebrate like it's 1970's again.
Life in the jungle can be quite nice when holding and smelling a classy glass of good quality wine.


Ditto on wine, baguette & cheese. 🍷
I didn't quite dig the taste of Bugnay wine.
My wife and I are already thinking of sending a balikbayan box with our favorite wines 2 months before flying there. We will have to make do with whatever cheese we can find over there. With meats, there is probably a lot of good ilocos sausages up north.

Enzyte Bob

PalawanBob wrote:

If anyone of you dreamers come over here, please bring a good bottle of wine and cheese and we'll celebrate like it's 1970's again.

Life in the jungle can be quite nice when holding and smelling a classy glass of good quality wine.


Here again I'm talking about Las Vegas, the first few years we received enough wine as gifts we could open up a wine shoppe.

The reason why is the Casinos would have promotions for free bottle of wine and people were
re-gifting their free bottle. Some casinos catered to seniors and they would be drinking free (comp) glass of wine while playing the slots/pokies.

Well anyways we sent dozens of these free bottles of wine to PH. Opened a few and they were
terrible. We bought and sent to the PH a gallon of Riunite Lambrusco and several bottles of Muscatel. So that shows you how little I know about Wine.

manwonder

Enzyte Bob wrote:
PalawanBob wrote:

If anyone of you dreamers come over here, please bring a good bottle of wine and cheese and we'll celebrate like it's 1970's again.

Life in the jungle can be quite nice when holding and smelling a classy glass of good quality wine.


Here again I'm talking about Las Vegas, the first few years we received enough wine as gifts we could open up a wine shoppe.

The reason why is the Casinos would have promotions for free bottle of wine and people were
re-gifting their free bottle. Some casinos catered to seniors and they would be drinking free (comp) glass of wine while playing the slots/pokies.

Well anyways we sent dozens of these free bottles of wine to PH. Opened a few and they were
terrible. We bought and sent to the PH a gallon of Riunite Lambrusco and several bottles of Muscatel. So that shows you how little I know about Wine.


Don't trust free wines you get fm the casino.
:D

Jackson4

Been there, drank that too.
I learned from my mistakes.
The problem is, I kept making mistakes.
I guess I did not learn.
It comes with age. 😩
Some thing that was a great idea years ago now seems a mistake.

Enzyte Bob

Jackson4 wrote:

Been there, drank that too.

Some thing that was a great idea years ago now seems a mistake.


The biggest mistakes seemed a good idea at the time: Lee Iocca.

bigpearl

Jackson4 wrote:

Been there, drank that too.
I learned from my mistakes.
The problem is, I kept making mistakes.
I guess I did not learn.
It comes with age. 😩
Some thing that was a great idea years ago now seems a mistake.


Yep, I'll drink to that and I'll never be cruel to a gin and tonic again. Such a pity we don't live to the ripe old age of 150.
I've had my share/s of mistakes in relationships, business and investments,,,,, never to date on a roulette table but I'm only a 500 buck player and not for many years.
Mistakes at times, successes fewer but only one or two successes make the mistakes worth while, the learning curve and where we are now and how we live our lives matters.

Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl

Sorry Bob, it also seems collectively that this post has been hijacked. How is the 13a going?

Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

bigpearl wrote:

I've had my share/s of mistakes in relationships, business and investments,,,,, never to date on a roulette table but I'm only a 500 buck player and not for many years.
Cheers, Steve.


From my Las Vegas experience. Self control is the secret of winning.

On Slots or Pokies always bet the maximum except on machines with multi lines and
multi units,
which usually are penny machines, but could cost you mucho bucks, it may
be a penny machine but I have never seen anyone playing one line one cent. One push of the
button could cost you several dollars or more.

On poker machines or three wheel slots you have a choice between 1 and 5 coin in.
Maximum 5 coin in pays substantially more than four coins.

On slots/pokies (three wheel) always play at least $1 with maximum coin in (5). The reason is,
say a lesser amount of 25 Cents, you never win enough to walk away. With $1, maximum
coin 5, the payoff could motivate you to quit while you are ahead.

Again the secret is self control. At the blackjack tables I always played the minimum ($3 or $5),
at the local casinos they have lower limits and have better blackjack rules, not the sucker rules
of tourist casinos.  The local casinos have a bigger percentage of return on slots/pokies.
(smaller hold)

Another thing always checkout the payout schedule on three wheel slots/pokies. Two identical machines, side by side and can have different payouts scales for the same winning combination.

If you are a $500 buck player, you're out of my league. In Vegas that will get you a free room,
free food, lots of free booze and some female companionship.

It's the high rollers that pay for the comps us low rollers get. Steve Wynn was in an interview said, casinos is the only business where the customer walks in with cash and walks out with nothing.

Sure beats a retail business where you have to exchange merchandise for the customers cash.

Enzyte Bob

bigpearl wrote:

Sorry Bob, it also seems collectively that this post has been hijacked. How is the 13a going?

Cheers, Steve.


Sorry for the Hijack,

I was all set to go to the BI for my permanent ACR and possible 13A and then they closed because of Covid. I'm waiting for my stepson to have a day off during the week so he can go with me. He can communicate with them in Tagalog saving me from going nuts.

coach53

Enzyte Bob wrote:

From my Las Vegas experience. Self control is the secret of winning..


Well. In casinos only the casinos have control over winning  :)
There are no sure systems to winn for players ((of what I know)) EXCEPT counting card in Black Jack if having good enough memory, BUT although it's NOT illegal to do, the casiinos have systemss to stop such and force such players to leave...  (If big enough player to make them bother.)

POKER is somethin else .  There it's SKILL a biger part  - but much biger luck part at Texas Holdem  than at old type 5 Card by e g no pot max limits so very much are often luck in Texas Holdem but not knowing which car will get before beting the biger money. And in the common tournements in Texas Holdem only the top players get money, while in 5 card I kept the money I had wonn when stop playing  :)   So I don't like Texas Holdem for earning. And definitly not through internet when can't see the"tells" of the opponents.
A friend of mine, who I played with many years ago, wondered why everyone folded every time he got good catds, but he had tells so obvious so hard to avoid to see  :lol:

Enzyte Bob

coach53 wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

From my Las Vegas experience. Self control is the secret of winning..


Well. In casinos only the casinos have control over winning  :)
Not so fast, many, many times I've walked out of the casino with winning
because of self control, the casino has no control of a winner cashing out.


There are no sure systems to winn for players ((of what I know))

Not so fast, a coupon run of free play coupons, match play coupons
and free coupon books by joining players club in many casinos are available.

You can check out below coupon books that can be purchased.


https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com … ginal.htmlhttps://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/member-rewards-list/


EXCEPT counting card in Black Jack if having good enough memory,

Card counting is a myth, let me break it down for you. There is a thing called
basic strategy, it's approximately 20 basic moves on how to play your hand. If
played perfectly the player can win 49.5% of the time, if played without error, without counting.

If you are perfect in basic strategy, I've never know anyone who could in my
13 years living in Vegas.  Make one mistake in a hundred hands and the
percentage drops down. Now card counting is very difficult, I only knew
two card counters. We use to meet  on Saturdays and play  $3 blackjack
with a $20 buy in, afterwards  we would go to a buffet.  It is almost impossible
to count cards, one: the action is  too fast, two: the casinos use up to  eight decks,
three: the  casino reshuffles often, never going deep into the deck.

All the movies show a player signaling to his friends to join the table when
the deck gets positive. Once a shoe is started any player who sits down at
the table has to wait for a reshuffle to join the game. If you pretend to count
cards, like playing $5 a hand, then increasing your hand at more than a 4 to 1
ratio, or jump from $5 to $100 you could be asked to leave the table without
really counting anything. The casino would like for everyone to try gambling
by counting cards, I think they are the ones who push the card counting myth.


POKER is somethin else .  There it's SKILL a biger part  - but much biger luck part at Texas Holdem  than at old type 5 Card by e g no pot max limits so very much are often luck in Texas Holdem but not knowing which car will get before beting the biger money. And in the common tournements in Texas Holdem only the top players get money, while in 5 card I kept the money I had wonn when stop playing  :)   So I don't like Texas Holdem for earning. And definitly not through internet when can't see the"tells" of the opponents.
A friend of mine, who I played with many years ago, wondered why everyone folded every time he got good catds, but he had tells so obvious so hard to avoid to see  :lol:

Poker:

First there is poker on slots/pokies. You have to check out the varies poker
games available, then you have to check the payout schedule. A good machine
is called a 9/6 machine, full pay. What that means is 9/1 for a full house and 6/1
for a flush. If you look hard you might be able to find a 9/6 machine and next
to it could be a 7/5 machine for the same game.

Some slot/pokie machines can pay over 100% if you play perfectly. I knew a
player who could do that, but his real winnings came from the comp kickbacks,
1/4 of 1%. He would run thousands  a day through the machines. I and some
of his friends enjoyed meals at high end restaurants from his comps. Then he
became a day trader and went broke.

Second on Texas Holdem, the one version I played was tournament holdem.
For a fixed entry fee, you and everyone else would get a set amount of chips,
the game is played through elimination. This type of poker the most you can
lose is your entry fee. I've played in games with as low as a $21 entry fee.

One year the World Series of Poker had over 8,000 people entered ($10,000)
entry fee. Top 800 players collected the minimum of $10,000.

Then there is no limit type of poker, your losses can be as great as everything
in your wallet, even more if the casino will give you a marker (loan).

I know Coach53 knows most of this stuff, but it's a guide for some of you who
feel lucky and visit a casino.

Enzyte Bob

Enzyte Bob wrote:

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Enzyte Bob

Enzyte Bob wrote:

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manwonder

In Singapore the ultimate game would be baccarat. Its a very fast paced card game which is not too heavily weighed in the casino's favour. With a house edge on a player bet being a paltry 1.24%.
I made quite a bit once (also being a 500buck player) but lost almost everything after a few visits.
The effort/time spent trying to win more & hold on to it was not worth the sleepless/stressful nights spent at the table.
:sleep

coach53

Enzyte Bob wrote:
coach53 wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

From my Las Vegas experience. Self control is the secret of winning..


Well. In casinos only the casinos have control over winning  :)
Not so fast, many, many times I've walked out of the casino with winning
because of self control, the casino has no control of a winner cashing out.

Not so fast   :)  And how many times have you walked out with loss...?  :)
The odds are in favour o casinos - except if have good memory to counting cards and that the casinos work hard to stop baning such players although it's LEGAL  done  by the players...


There are no sure systems to winn for players ((of what I know))

Not so fast, a coupon run of free play coupons, match play coupons
and free coupon books by joining players club in many casinos are available.

If you count geting 10 dollars for free if yyou play or 30 worth counting.  I don't bother to play such amounts. And I suppouse the costs to travel are more than 10 dollars   :)  for most players....

You can check out below coupon books that can be purchased.

https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com … ginal.htmlhttps://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/member-rewards-list/
"Play $30/Get $10 FREE"  was the BEST offer I found. Perhaps interesting for "Bingo people" players  :)  

EXCEPT counting card in Black Jack if having good enough memory,

Card counting is a myth, let me break it down for you. There is a thing called
basic strategy, it's approximately 20 basic moves on how to play your hand. If
played perfectly the player can win 49.5% of the time, if played without error, without counting.
[color=#59f80a]Don't you know 49.5 % is LESS than 50 % ?   :)  So without card counting the odds are at the casino side, but with a COMBINATION of what you talk about and card counting the odds can be chamged to be in favour of the player. That's why casinos have acted to stop such players... :) ..
.

If you are perfect in basic strategy, I've never know anyone who could in my
13 years living in Vegas.  Make one mistake in a hundred hands and the
percentage drops down. Now card counting is very difficult, I only knew
two card counters. We use to meet  on Saturdays and play  $3 blackjack
with a $20 buy in, afterwards  we would go to a buffet.  It is almost impossible
to count cards, one: the action is  too fast, two: the casinos use up to  eight decks,
three: the  casino reshuffles often, never going deep into the deck.

All the movies show a player signaling to his friends to join the table when
the deck gets positive. Once a shoe is started any player who sits down at
the table has to wait for a reshuffle to join the game. If you pretend to count
cards, like playing $5 a hand, then increasing your hand at more than a 4 to 1
ratio, or jump from $5 to $100 you could be asked to leave the table without
really counting anything. The casino would like for everyone to try gambling
by counting cards, I think they are the ones who push the card counting myth.

There you see yourself card counting can(could function  :)  that's why casinos make action to stop such. So if a casino has made enough action to make card countin worthless, then better stop playing there :)

POKER is somethin else .  There it's SKILL a biger part  - but much biger luck part at Texas Holdem  than at old type 5 Card by e g no pot max limits so very much are often luck in Texas Holdem but not knowing which car will get before beting the biger money. And in the common tournements in Texas Holdem only the top players get money, while in 5 card I kept the money I had wonn when stop playing  :)   So I don't like Texas Holdem for earning. And definitly not through internet when can't see the"tells" of the opponents.
A friend of mine, who I played with many years ago, wondered why everyone folded every time he got good catds, but he had tells so obvious so hard to avoid to see  :lol:

Poker:
First there is poker on slots/pokies. You have to check out the varies poker
games available, then you have to check the payout schedule. A good machine
is called a 9/6 machine, full pay. What that means is 9/1 for a full house and 6/1
for a flush. If you look hard you might be able to find a 9/6 machine and next
to it could be a 7/5 machine for the same game.

Some slot/pokie machines can pay over 100% if you play perfectly. I knew a
player who could do that, but his real winnings came from the comp kickbacks,
1/4 of 1%. He would run thousands  a day through the machines. I and some
of his friends enjoyed meals at high end restaurants from his comps. Then he
became a day trader and went broke.
   That's NOT Poker, that's slot machines with card images  :)

Poker:
Second on Texas Holdem, the one version I played was tournament holdem.
For a fixed entry fee, you and everyone else would get a set amount of chips,
the game is played through elimination. This type of poker the most you can
lose is your entry fee. I've played in games with as low as a $21 entry fee.

One year the World Series of Poker had over 8,000 people entered ($10,000)
entry fee. Top 800 players collected the minimum of $10,000.
As I said  only a small part of the players winn in such, while in 5 card iit's rather common around half of the players winn


Then there is no limit type of poker, your losses can be as great as everything
in your wallet, even more if the casino will give you a marker (loan).

I know Coach53 knows most of this stuff, but it's a guide for some of you who
feel lucky and visit a casino.



Well. Back when I started playing 5 card poker max pot limit with any biger money, I played careful and wonn ALLWAYS but not any much, so it became booring.  So I started playing some wild, then I lost sometimes but the winn times were more frequent than the losses and the winns became biger than before too, so the net became interesting.  But I stoped playing when a friend in same poker gang lost more than he could afford. Then didn't found it fun anymore even with it was me he lost to   :)   (Second most. The one, who wonn more than I, became profesional poker player short after.)

Now I have some to do with - other than poker :)  - an earlier profesional poker player when Texas Holdem had started to be big.  He was around 50 million SEK net PLUS  (6 million USD)  ,  but then he lost all. Now he has the lowest paid type of caretaker work to live of,  but he is Happy-Go-Lucky personality so he is happy almost allways anyway   :top:

If play such then better play where no casino/organizer take a share. Or better "gamble" and the stock market as I DID, but now are the prices mych to high at "western" stockmarkets - and Bitcoinis CRAZY to high - so now I "gamble" by starting business in Phils   :)

coach53

manwonder wrote:

The effort/time spent trying to win more & hold on to it was not worth the sleepless/stressful nights spent at the table.


Yes. He in the poker gang, who became profesional poker player, wonn some net, but per hour he earned as half the salary they get at fast food places   :)    so he skiped it.   
He is terrible at playing psychological, but very good at have chances for "all" different situations memoriced, NOT counting.
Once when we played an uncommon situation happened. I made an estimate calculation in head and said:
-The chance for that is around 30 % in such situation.
-No, it's 31, 547,   he said serious direct.
:lol:

Enzyte Bob

manwonder wrote:

In Singapore the ultimate game would be baccarat. Its a very fast paced card game which is not too heavily weighed in the casino's favour. With a house edge on a player bet being a paltry 1.24%.
I made quite a bit once (also being a 500buck player) but lost almost everything after a few visits.
The effort/time spent trying to win more & hold on to it was not worth the sleepless/stressful nights spent at the table.
:sleep


Baccarat is popular among Asians in Vegas. The California Hotel & Casino and The Gold Coast cater to Asians. The Gold Coast has as many baccarat tables as blackjack.

I never played baccarat, some players had cards where they were writing the results of previous games trying to predict if to play their hand or the dealers.

When you say 500 buck player are you meaning $500 USD? Too rich for my blood.

manwonder

Enzyte Bob wrote:
manwonder wrote:

In Singapore the ultimate game would be baccarat. Its a very fast paced card game which is not too heavily weighed in the casino's favour. With a house edge on a player bet being a paltry 1.24%.
I made quite a bit once (also being a 500buck player) but lost almost everything after a few visits.
The effort/time spent trying to win more & hold on to it was not worth the sleepless/stressful nights spent at the table.
:sleep


Baccarat is popular among Asians in Vegas. The California Hotel & Casino and The Gold Coast cater to Asians. The Gold Coast has as many baccarat tables as blackjack.

I never played baccarat, some players had cards where they were writing the results of previous games trying to predict if to play their hand or the dealers.

When you say 500 buck player are you meaning $500 USD? Too rich for my blood.


Yup/maybe even more...but that was during my hey days (abt 15yrs ago)...now I'm just a farmer taking care of my flock & contemplating.
:/

Enzyte Bob

coach53 wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:
coach53 wrote:

Well. In casinos only the casinos have control over winning 
Not so fast, many, many times I've walked out of the casino with winning
because of self control, the casino has no control of a winner cashing out.


There are no sure systems to winn for players ((of what I know))
Make up your mind, you say there is no system to win then you say card counting

Not so fast, a coupon run of free play coupons, match play coupons
and free coupon books by joining players club in many casinos are available.

If you count geting 10 dollars for free if yyou play or 30 worth counting.  I don't bother to play such amounts. And I suppouse the costs to travel are more than 10 dollars     for most players....

Maybe you don't play for small amounts but millions and
millions of people do. Casinos welcome a whale like you.

You can check out below coupon books that can be purchased.


https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com … ginal.htmlhttps://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/member-rewards-list/
"Play $30/Get $10 FREE"  was the BEST offer I found. Perhaps interesting for "Bingo people" players

I don't know what you were looking at but American casino
Guide has 23 match play/free play gambling coupons and Las Vegas Advisor
has 25 match play/free play coupons.


EXCEPT counting card in Black Jack if having good enough memory,

If you want to count cards you don't need a good memory.
2 through 6 minus one, 10 through Ace plus one. You can't remember
one number that is the count?

Card counting is a myth, let me break it down for you. There is a thing called
basic strategy, it's approximately 20 basic moves on how to play your hand. If
played perfectly the player can win 49.5% of the time, if played without error,
without counting.


Don't you know 49.5 % is LESS than 50 % ?    So without card counting the odds are at the casino side, but with a COMBINATION of what you talk about and card counting the odds can be chamged to be in favour of the player. That's why casinos have acted to stop such players.

If you are perfect in basic strategy, I've never know anyone
who could in my  13 years living in Vegas.  Make one mistake in a hundred
hands and the percentage drops down. Now card counting is very difficult,
I only knew two card counters. We use to meet  on Saturdays and play 
$3 blackjack  with a $20 buy in, afterwards  we would go to a buffet.  It is
almost impossible to count cards, one: the action is  too fast, two: the
casinos use up to  eight decks,  three: the  casino reshuffles often, never
going deep into the deck.

All the movies show a player signaling to his friends to join the table when
the deck gets positive. Once a shoe is started any player who sits down at
the table has to wait for a reshuffle to join the game. If you pretend to count
cards, like playing $5 a hand, then increasing your hand at more than a 4 to 1
ratio, or jump from $5 to $100 you could be asked to leave the table without
really counting anything. The casino would like for everyone to try gambling
by counting cards, I think they are the ones who push the card counting myth.

There you see yourself card counting can(could function   that's why casinos make action to stop such. So if a casino has made enough action to make card countin worthless, then better stop playing there

POKER is somethin else .  There it's SKILL a biger part  - but much biger luck part at Texas Holdem  than at old type 5 Card by e g no pot max limits so very much are often luck in Texas Holdem but not knowing which car will get before beting the biger money. And in the common tournements in Texas Holdem only the top players get money, while in 5 card I kept the money I had wonn when stop playing    So I don't like Texas Holdem for earning. And definitly not through internet when can't see the"tells" of the opponents.
A friend of mine, who I played with many years ago, wondered why everyone folded every time he got good catds, but he had tells so obvious so hard to avoid to see 

Poker:
First there is poker on slots/pokies. You have to check out the varies poker
games available, then you have to check the payout schedule. A good machine
is called a 9/6 machine, full pay. What that means is 9/1 for a full house and 6/1
for a flush. If you look hard you might be able to find a 9/6 machine and next
to it could be a 7/5 machine for the same game.

Some slot/pokie machines can pay over 100% if you play perfectly. I knew a
player who could do that, but his real winnings came from the comp kickbacks,
1/4 of 1%. He would run thousands  a day through the machines. I and some
of his friends enjoyed meals at high end restaurants from his comps. Then he
became a day trader and went broke.
   

That's NOT Poker, that's slot machines with card images 

Well you probably never been in an American Casino, the
most popular slot/pokie game is video poker. The player has input,
decisions have to be made. I went to two casinos in PH, not one video
poker machine, no one playing blackjack except me. If you never played
a video poker machine in the states I can except your answer, but if you
have, you are incorrect.

Poker:
Second on Texas Holdem, the one version I played was tournament holdem.
For a fixed entry fee, you and everyone else would get a set amount of chips,
the game is played through elimination. This type of poker the most you can
lose is your entry fee. I've played in games with as low as a $21 entry fee.

One year the World Series of Poker had over 8,000 people entered ($10,000)
entry fee. Top 800 players collected the minimum of $10,000.


As I said  only a small part of the players winn in such, while in 5 card iit's rather common around half of the players winn

True but the players who win, win big, sometimes millions
in tournament poker. In my $21 dollar game attracts a big crowd, sometimes
filling 20 tables, so the payout is respectable.

Then there is no limit type of poker, your losses can be as great as everything
in your wallet, even more if the casino will give you a marker (loan).

I know Coach53 knows most of this stuff, but it's a guide for some of you who
feel lucky and visit a casino.



Well. Back when I started playing 5 card poker max pot limit with any biger money, I played careful and wonn ALLWAYS but not any much, so it became booring.  So I started playing some wild, then I lost sometimes but the winn times were more frequent than the losses and the winns became biger than before too, so the net became interesting.  But I stoped playing when a friend in same poker gang lost more than he could afford. Then didn't found it fun anymore even with it was me he lost to     (Second most. The one, who wonn more than I, became profesional poker player short after.)

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

Now I have some to do with - other than poker  - an earlier profesional poker player when Texas Holdem had started to be big.  He was around 50 million SEK net PLUS  (6 million USD)  ,  but then he lost all. Now he has the lowest paid type of caretaker work to live of,  but he is Happy-Go-Lucky personality so he is happy almost allways anyway 

If play such then better play where no casino/organizer take a share. Or better "gamble" and the stock market as I DID, but now are the prices mych to high at "western" stockmarkets - and Bitcoinis CRAZY to high - so now I "gamble" by starting business in Phils

coach53

Enzyte Bob wrote:

Not so fast, a coupon run of free play coupons, match play coupons
and free coupon books by joining players club in many casinos are available.

If you count geting 10 dollars for free if yyou play or 30 worth counting.  I don't bother to play such amounts. And I suppouse the costs to travel are more than 10 dollars     for most players....

Maybe you don't play for small amounts but millions and
millions of people do. Casinos welcome a whale like you.

You can check out below coupon books that can be purchased.


https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com … ginal.htmlhttps://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/member-rewards-list/
"Play $30/Get $10 FREE"  was the BEST offer I found. Perhaps interesting for "Bingo people" players

I don't know what you were looking at but American casino
Guide has 23 match play/free play gambling coupons and Las Vegas Advisor
has 25 match play/free play coupons.


Yes coupons of 10 dollars match play   :)   
(Except one "$25 table game matchplay (one per calendar year) "  before I lost interest of checking. Many was some eating, no gambling money.

. .
Cooncerning "video poker"
Seeing REAL "tells" in REAL ttime of THAT hand?
Othewice it isn' t real  poker, because SEE the opponent is a to big part of poker.
My bigest pot LOSS were when I met new players and I thought a player with reputation enouh to have a poker related nick name, can't be that bad player, so I thought he PRETENDED acting very excited at having very good cards to bluff- but he was that bad player so he fooled me without meaning to  :lol:
So that was an exception when I did read the opponent wrong.
There is a reason some players play with sun glasses, because the eyes can tell much if not havin good "poker face"   :)

((I don't play chess neither without seeing the opponent before my first move, because I play "psychological" changing my playing style very much to what the opponent don't like  :)
Once in Swedish Championhips (not the highest class)  the first three opponents I had shocked by playing very wild attacks. Just before start playing tthe 4th, he said:
-Finaly geting some action.
That game I wonn by booring him   :lol:   playing strategic extreemly calm.  ))

Enzyte Bob

coach53 wrote:
Enzyte Bob wrote:

Not so fast, a coupon run of free play coupons, match play coupons and free coupon books by joining players club in many casinos are available.

[color=#ff0000]Maybe you don't play for small amounts but millions and millions of people do. Casinos welcome a whale like you.

You can check out below coupon books that can be purchased.


https://www.americancasinoguidebook.com … ginal.htmlhttps://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/member-rewards-list/

I don't know what you were looking at but American casino Guide has 23 match play/free play gambling coupons and Las Vegas Advisor has 25 match play/free play coupons.

Cooncerning "video poker"
Seeing REAL "tells" in REAL ttime of THAT hand?
Othewice it isn' t real  poker, because SEE the opponent is a to big part of poker.
My bigest pot LOSS were when I met new players and I thought a player with reputation enouh to have a poker related nick name, can't be that bad player, so I thought he PRETENDED acting very excited at having very good cards to bluff- but he was that bad player so he fooled me without meaning to 
So that was an exception when I did read the opponent wrong.
There is a reason some players play with sun glasses, because the eyes can tell much if not havin good "poker face"   

Tells are over exaggerated, you read too many poker books.  I have won bracelets in Poker Tournaments, if you never met me and don't have any idea what my normal mannerisms are, I doubt that you or anyone can get a read on of me. Mistaken reads will cost you money, you play your hand. I smile to myself when I see somebody imitating something they saw on TV. Example hoody's, dark or reflective sun glasses and ear buds. Try a read on me, what you see is what you get. I play my hand determined by my pocket cards and the flop if I get to play it. My betting is based on the strength of my hand and experience, not the look or mannerisms of somebody I never met.

                                         Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner


manwonder

Quote fm Coach53 So I started playing some wild, then I lost sometimes but the winn times were more frequent than the losses and the winns became biger than before too, so the net became interesting.  But I stoped playing when a friend in same poker gang lost more than he could afford. Then didn't found it fun anymore even with it was me he lost to   :)[unquote]
Was in a very similar situation back in 1987 whilst playing cards with fellow colleagues which included an ex.schoolmate....He infact finally lost everything & had to put down his car keys (brand new light green fiat regata sports model)....I did NOT/could NOT take it & let him off...I was much younger/naive then....Infact I should have taught him a lesson then.
He is a bankrupt now & not a friend anymore....Its a good reminder to
never gamble with things you cannot afford to loose.
Btw I too have a good poker face.
:|

coach53

Enzyte Bob wrote:

I don't know what you were looking at but American casino Guide has 23 match play/free play gambling coupons and Las Vegas Advisor has 25 match play/free play coupons.


I got bored after checking over half of the first one  :)      Found only 10 USD coupons  (except one 25 USD allowed to use ONCE per year...

Enzyte Bob wrote:

  Tells are over exaggerated, you read too many poker books   I have won bracelets in Poker Tournaments, if you never met me and don't have any idea what my normal mannerisms are, I doubt that you or anyone can get a read on of me. Mistaken reads will cost you money, you play your hand. I smile to myself when I see somebody imitating something they saw on TV. Example hoody's, dark or reflective sun glasses and ear buds. Try a read on me, what you see is what you get. I play my hand determined by my pocket cards and the flop if I get to play it. My betting is based on the strength of my hand and experience, not the look or mannerisms of somebody I never met.


I haven't read any poker book  :) (except I looked a bit in one when Texas Holdem came.) But I have written one.
No I haven't. Just joking  :)   (But I have got rather much other stuff published mainly within sports and economics.  E g a common subject now is Bitcoin is obviously a bubble , I claim the real worth is 2 - 3 USD including I explain why and how the overvalueing have happened very much within in Bitcoin and less - but  stupid to much - within "western" stock markets too.  I prefer to buy things, which are UNDERvalued :) so no bubble burst risk.

Well. Different players are different hard to read from very hard/perhaps impossible if there are any such to obvious"tells" when they get good cards. (An exception can perhaps be them who have so much money so they don't bother if they winn or lose money, but  such can not bother to play good too if they don't bother very much about prestige as player.)

Do you claim you don't show any differences at all in face or body language between you have good and bad cards?      If you NEVER bluff that will be a kind of "read" too after a while though  :)

I don't claim I can, but I have rather good "poker face" plus with people, who don't know of me, in startups I play some stupid on purpouse to make them believe I'm a bad player  :)   In the only Texas Holdem tournement I  have participated in and actualy the onlly time I have played Texas Holdem,  still in the semi-final  I fumbled with the cards as I were a beginner, which made I  kicked out two experienced Texas Holdem players in same pot and got to the final table!  But I had no chance against the clear winner, I couldn't read him at all  :)

coach53

manwonder wrote:

Was in a very similar situation back in 1987 whilst playing cards with fellow colleagues which included an ex.schoolmate....He infact finally lost everything & had to put down his car keys (brand new light green fiat regata sports model)....I did NOT/could NOT take it & let him off...I was much younger/naive then....Infact I should have taught him a lesson then.
He is a bankrupt now & not a friend anymore....Its a good reminder to
never gamble with things you cannot afford to loose. |


Funny it was almost same year I stoped playing witht them  :) (1989).

My friend got out of gambling addiction.
Some years later I made him start an education business which I boosted his net income in rather much.  (He is very good at teaching  but rather bad at leading a business so I assisted him. I have worked some as business consultant for diferent businesses.)
So now my friend can afford to lose   :)     I believe he is out of gambling addiction. He play some still and lose some more than he winn, but has rather much money I know by I see his assets when I asist with his business, so I suppouse no gambling problem.
But he start geting exhausted by the work.  I told him two days ago why not retire to a porch in the Philippines :) and put some money in a business similar to what I do. He didn't find siting at a porch in Phils doing my business idea tempting   :)   Perhaps by the business wouldn't have use of his good creativity, but I think it would be bettter for his health to sit at a porch in Phils and make music.   (He is good at that but haven't had time in several  years to use his studio equipment...)

Enzyte Bob

coach53 wrote:

I haven't read any poker book   (except I looked a bit in one when Texas Holdem came.) But I have written one.
No I haven't. Just joking    (But I have got rather much other stuff published mainly within sports and economics.  E g a common subject now is Bitcoin is obviously a bubble , I claim the real worth is 2 - 3 USD including I explain why and how the overvalueing have happened very much within in Bitcoin and less - but  stupid to much - within "western" stock markets too.  I prefer to buy things, which are UNDERvalued so no bubble burst risk.

I have similar views about Bitcoin, many buyers will get Bit without coins. Sure speculation based on the bigger fool theory.

Do you claim you don't show any differences at all in face or body language between you have good and bad cards?      If you NEVER bluff that will be a kind of "read" too after a while though 

The following remarks are for tournament poker. I very seldom will try a bluff, I find if the other guy has the nuts he is going to see your bluff and take you to the cleaners. My demeanor is the same as it always is, he can read anything he wants, I don't care. My attention is my pocket cards, I look at them once and never take a second look. If I have a good to nut hand that I'll play, I know what my hole cards are and I only concentrate on the flop. I don't care about other players tells real or false. On a table of nine and you're player 1 or 9 you can't see everyone at the table in trying to read tells. Also as the game progresses the tables are consolidated, so you have a whole bunch of new faces so much for your last tells.

In the early rounds I seldom call, unless I have the nuts in the blind. I don't want to get caught up with in the low dollar blinds to loose. I will fold small blinds unless I have the nuts. If everyone folds and it's just me in the small blind and the other player is in the big blind, If I have a decent hand I will raise him significantly to give him the choice of losing the big blind or possibly using the hand if he calls.

The object is to get to the final table, not necessarily to be the chip leader. Early in the game I play tight, late in the game I play loose. If I'm ever going to bluff, it's on the "TURN", I want to win the hand at this point, I don't want the other player to get lucky on the "RIVER". Again the object is to get to the final table, what happens 99% after the bubble players are gone, somebody will suggest we divide the purse equally and that usually happens. So being chip leader or somebody near elimination, you all get the same cash payout.


I don't claim I can, but I have rather good "poker face" plus with people, who don't know of me, in startups I play some stupid on purpouse to make them believe I'm a bad player    In the only Texas Holdem tournement I  have participated in and actualy the onlly time I have played Texas Holdem,  still in the semi-final  I fumbled with the cards as I were a beginner, which made I  kicked out two experienced Texas Holdem players in same pot and got to the final table!  But I had no chance against the clear winner, I couldn't read him at all

Not to be insulting (not really) playing stupid is stupid, why give away your chips? The other player is going to play his hand on the strength of his hand regardless what you do, stupidity real or faked, just adds to his chip account. It's not going to influence in his future play against stupid real or faked. He is not going to put himself in jeopardy because there is a stupid player.

Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner

bigpearl

All the frivolities and off topic posts aside, how's the 13a going Bob.

Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

bigpearl wrote:

All the frivolities and off topic posts aside, how's the 13a going Bob.

Cheers, Steve.


I think you somebody else asks this question recently. Now that BI is open, I'm waiting for my stepson to have a day off during the week so both of us can go. He is the go between the persons behind the windows at BI and me. I could never navigate it alone.

If I had to do it all over I would have hired/paid some outside firm to handle all the red tape, forms and footwork and eliminate the aggravation.

Your correct about of the off topics I'm responsible for.

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