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Last activity 25 May 2023 by WillieWeb

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WillieWeb

My system from Eco Serve is serviced every 3 mo.....

bulb changed when necessary... filters too

No muss, no fuss...all part of the contract

Guest2022

Treating water is quite an involved subject as I have found out on a current (large) resort project where we have been building a back of house extension with new seawater RO plant. We have experts and designers advising us and it is indeed complex getting good water quality and then drinking water quality with minerals.

For pH, distribution and to comply with WHO regulations, after first pass reverse osmosis treatment, some chemicals are added to the water - chlorine and calcium carbonate.

Now town water here will have the added chlorine, or at least it should, to elimante the bacteria. And because it is often coming from wells it will have dissolved solids of calcium carbonate natuarally and perhaps also disolved sodium chloride - salt.

If the town water has too low a TDS - total disolved solids - it will be out of balance and will aggressively seek to add back disolved solids by corroding the distribution system to make metal salts.

In the house concept therefore, what you will need to do at the point of drinking water is to remover the chlorine and any sediments and this is done using carbon (gets rid of chlorine) and fabric filters and you may want the additional security of UV light treatment.

If you do the whole house treatment you could be removing too many TDS's - total dissolved solids and some appliance corrosion etc could occur. I believe one poster wrote about such a problem and salinity was considered but it could also be lack of TDS. It could deend on what system you are using.

The iSpring systems do not sem to be too aggressive and provides good water for the home and has the note:

Please Note: Unlike an RO system, this system will NOT reduce Total Dissolved Solids (TDS), and instead keeps healthy minerals in your water. If you are interested in a filter that removes TDS consider our iSpring Reverse Osmosis (RO) systems.

You need about 300 mg/litre of TDS for balanced water which won't corrode and it appears the iSprng filters do not remove all the TDS - RO based units do remove the salt content and will achive up to 98% TDS removal depending on the RO membrane used.

This leads us back to the thread title and I am wondering if anybody with a full house treatment other than iSpring providing drinking quality water has any early wear and tear on plumbing appliances - metal appliances such as faucets, water tanks etc? It might be a deciding factor being that most of the small packaged drinking water units are aimed at the under sink/one tap application. I believe the iSpring is aiming at getting rid of sediment and chlorine rather than making the water good drinking quality.

planner

So again the question  returns -  iS IT SAFE TO DRINK AND WAS IT TESTED?

Lennox I have no idea what all that was and I am still left with the same questions!

WillieWeb

I have 'whole house'.... filters & UV.... water from a well

Water is 'hard' but a softener seems to complicated for me

Yes - we drink it
No - haven't noticed any wear & tear

planner

Willie have you tested your water?

RockyM

We plan to get the Ecoserve system. Several posters here have used this system with no ill health affects. The filters and UV seem to be a reliable option. Although not sure if anyone has actually tested the water.
Now, drinking from the tap again will be rather "weird" for us, having bottled water for so long.

WillieWeb

Testing is part of the quarterly inspection..... I didn't ask the results

The equipment is 'Trojan' - NYC uses it

Let me add that my house of females had many problems before --NONE since

planner

Thanks this is helpful!

Guest2022

planner wrote:

So again the question  returns -  iS IT SAFE TO DRINK AND WAS IT TESTED?

Lennox I have no idea what all that was and I am still left with the same questions!


Sorry if that was technical but it is not easy to get a good quality drinking water using  filtration and UV light treatment.

The water that is produced from either the filtration system suggested by Robbie 123 in post #40 or the Ecosystem Trojan appliance does not guarantee that you will removed many of the potential contaminents that can be found in the water supply from 'town water' or wells and that requires specialist testing for all the possible contaminants listed by the EPA. You will need reverse osmosis to lower the levels of many chemicals and metals such as lead, boron, copper manganese, arsenic, mercury, nitrates, pesticides, etc that can be found in water, sea water and well water.

I belive the Ecosystem Trojan and the cheaper and more filtered and sperate UV system described in post #40 can provide you with good house wide domestic water for showering, bathing, brushing teeth and perhaps for cooking (where you boil) purposes. It probably does meet certain drinking water standards. But personally I will continue to use RO treated 5 gallon bottled water for drinking and making fruit juices. That would be my recommendation and the cost of 5 gallon RO water is for me about 250 pesos a month so it is very small price to pay to have the water treated in a way the chemicals, metals and pesticides would be removed which filters alone do not do.

To be absolutely certain of your water you need to test thoroughly for all possible contaminants in accordance with EPA standards:

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files … esting.pdf

And a full test takes time in laboratory and is a few pages long listing contaminant, test type, limits, actual test findings and if the test is in, near or outside limits. In my project case mentioned in the earlier post on another island,  the local water company could not do the full chemical analysis test and the samples had to be sent to the USA. I would hope/expect DR has full testing capabilities and if so my recommendation is that you test your source water and after your chosen treatment too.

planner

Thanks Lennox,  now I understand.  Sorry your other post was way over my head!  LOL

dgb1

Ouch! Seems a bit much.

2VPsoldier

Lennox - that's certainly concerning. I have drank water that my daughter-in-law had in their rental house where they used a simple one filter system - I did'nt know this until after a visit or two - but it had no adverse effects (that I know of). In their new house they have larger three filter system and again, the water tastes fine. I have spoken with a company here in Canada and can courier water samples to them for testing and they'll email the results. The whole process to get that return email might take 10 to 14 days.....it'll be interesting to find out...great info and worth looking into!!

LT American
I have a solar power unit that pulls humidity from the air, and filters it into pure drinking water. 6000 liters per day.
ddmcghee

@LT American I'd like to hear more about this! How big is the unit?

LT American

@ddmcghee  of course, can you PM me ...or email. ***

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polo1club
Hello, LT can you share more information with us please. This sounds ideal! Thank you
LT American

@polo1club I have PDF files but I am unable to share my email address on this forum because the rules. Any ideas on how to share information

planner
Yes they can Connect by private message and you can share email addresses that way honey.
polo1club
Thank you Planner! Will do!
2VPsoldier

@LT American  - I will pm you for whatever info you have - sounds interesting.....

DRCulture
I will also send a pm for more info. Thanks!
LT American
Of course! I'll send info later today
LT American

@polo1club Of course! I'll send info later today

Michael Shirley
I want to thank everyone for some very good information. I have been wanting to improve the quality of water in an apartment  my family owns in Santo Domingo. I have noticed within a couple of showers after arriving each visit I develop small itchy rash spots  that become so irritating I have to use drinking water to shower.  The location of the apartment is in a section where water comes whenever they want to deliver to the residents and it is stored on the roof in 2 storage tanks.

I am interested  and would appreciate any feed back on a filtration system to suit my family’s needs and would like to know about how much a system would cost installed by a reputable contractor. Thanks again and everyone have a blessed day🙏🏼
vanessalapierrevl

@WillieWeb how much cost you system ?

RockyM
@vanessalapierrevl


The web site if you do not have it. We had the system installed recently and it works well. This equipment is available via Amazon and you would have to determine how best to get the equipment to SD, either through Ecoserve or Amazon. Ecoserve does not service outside of Sosua/Cabarete.
WillieWeb
Ecoserve services me and others in Cabrera

The system was $2,000US... about $400-450/yr mtce therafter
planner
I have now installed the Ecoserve system here in SD.   Works fantastic!
WillieWeb
If I'm not mistaken.... it's Cdn technology  (Trojan Technologies) and is used in the NYC water system

trojantechnologies.com/en/
Guest2022
These  water treatment systems from Trojan Technologies are inexpensive and available from Amazon.

An undersink one for example.

amazon.com/Viqua-TROJAN-UV-MAX-IHS12-D4-IHS12-D4-120V-UVMax/dp/B00571MA6O

Changing filters is very easy. you get a key to the filters and they unscrew at ease and you take out the old filter and put in the new.

Filter replacements cost typically $40 from Amazon and are available in most 'ferreterias'.
Browneyegirl
I have been reading through all of these and I am not quite sure what my next step should be for the most economical fit.   I am having a house built in Punta Cana near Vista Cana in Primaveral.  Could I just do something under the sink?  Do I need to do a whole house system?  If so, will it be about 2k?

Will one of the diy options work as well?
WillieWeb
Yes
There are under the sink options
Browneyegirl
@lennoxnev

I don't see that this unit is available still.  Is there a similar one that you could recommend?
Guest2022
You state you are building in Primaveral. Have you investigated the quality of water that is provided at this development?

It may not be 'town' (inapa) water and could even be of a good quality generated by the developer and possibly reverse osmosis. If so you need ideally to add back minerals for drinking quality. That would be a different approach.

Most town water in DR, and especially for expats, will need secondary treatment. But in Punta Cana big developments could be producing good quality water in house using RO. Ask.
Browneyegirl
@lennoxnev

Will ask immediately!  Thanks!
WhereDoIGoNext

You might consider getting a countertop water filter. It wouldn't purify your water from bacteria, but if you got a good one you'd be protected from pesticides and aluminum. I'd worry about pesticides in just about all of Latin America. Good luck and I hope you find a good one!

ddmcghee

@WhereDoIGoNext Bacteria is a big concern here, so you have to have something that treats it, or buy bottled water.

snowinpalm

@WhereDoIGoNext


Countertops do eliminate bacteria if they use the 'light'.  We have one (Watts under counter) we purchased from EcoServe. It also has the conventional 3 filters for sediment, flavor, etc.

Karin1

@LT American


in regards to this post...

"I have a solar power unit that pulls humidity from the air, and filters it into pure drinking water. 6000 liters per day."


WOW!!!!


I think we would all want one of these!

Can you give us the product name and where you purchased, we can google to find more details.


Thank you,

Karin

Tippj

did anyone have the water analyzed , tested ,(  test kit ) to see what needs to be filtered out and then do the research to find out what filter is best for their water treatment ….. I wouldn’t be surprised if the water quality is different in different parts of the country and maybe water filters would also need to be different ,  I’m sure everyone has done a Pre and Post water quality test and was just wounding what have you guys found

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