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Fxxer (M.S)

Me and my wife are planning to settle in Belgium. But we have a running bussiness in our country.

Our newest plan is renting a monthly apartment via airnb for some months and test us living in Belgium. When we are OK, she'll go back to our county and shut down the office here.

What can't we do in this period if we don't get a permanent residence?

Ps: My wife is Spanish btw

MariaMagdalena1957

If your wife is a citizen of Spain, she has EU rights and if you are legally married so do you.

If your wife is from Spain but does not have a current passport, it would be worth your while to check with the local Spanish consulate wherever you are to see what she needs to do.

Reopen.europa.eu is the excellent, up-to-date website that gives the official information about rules for entering and traveling given the pandemic situation. Make sure you check that page.

There are many apartments available for rent in Brussels -- plenty of vacancies -- and you will want to look in the more highly-rated residential neighbourhoods: Uccle (Ukkel), Ixelles, Saint-Gilles, Salon... These are places you can readily get by without a car because shops are so abundant and conveniently situated. Apartments tend to be less expensive than in London, Paris, Amsterdam and any major US city; about as affordable as they are in Canada.

When I found an apartment I wanted to take, I did not have a Belgian bank account. You will need one to take a longer lease. The manager ("syndic") of the apartment took me over to her own banker and they set me up, using my US information, so I could take the apartment. Everyone was very courteous and spoke excellent English. Brussels is a very international city; plenty of people speak English. French, Dutch and Flemish are of course the more commonly spoken local languages, but even utilities and phone companies provide customer service in German, in many cases, as well.

I found the process of settling into Brussels easy. The city is charming; it is a wonderful place for people with a penchant for gourmandise -- a lot of fantastic food available, including Mexican, Argentinian, Brazilian, Moroccan, Russian, Greek, Turkish, Iranian, Indian -- really a huge range. One of our favourite haunts is "The Everest", a Tibetan/Nepalese/Himalayan restaurant with amazing authentic cuisine. If you are someone who doesn't mind walking, or cycling, Brussels is small enough to traverse on foot and get to know well. And of course the public transport is outstanding.

There are legal advisors available, and they are not expensive, to help you navigate the registration process if you decide to formally become a Belgian resident. Post-Brexit, people from the UK (as one example) have to pay special attention to the registration rules because of reciprocity (UK is still not helping all Europeans who wish to remain in Britain, so there is an equivalent expectation that Brits coming to live permanently in Belgium need to comply with the formalities. However, these are not difficult, nor are they expensive. Our oldest son got it all done quickly in good time, just by visiting the local municipal office. Brussels' municipalities are called "Communes" and it is there most of the official registration and documentation issuance takes place. (As with local Councils in UK, for example.) If you do not require public assistance because you have independent means or a source of income, you will find it is not difficult, and indeed it is highly rewarding, to make Belgium your home. Cities outside Brussels are for the most part even less expensive for renters as well as home-buyers. The culture is specific and lovely, but you will find people tend to be helpful without being nosy or prying. And the location cannot be beat: close to everywhere. Excellent air and train connections, plus buses for those who don't wish to drive themselves.

LaylaSabourian

Hello, I have an apartment in Brussels I would be happy to rent to you on a short-term basis. When will you be arriving exactly?

Fxxer (M.S)

We still have time and I am open to more answers.

Edigj

If you both are EU citizens you have the freedom of movement. So you are not really checked when did you enter/exit. This means you can practically stay as much as you please to enjoy the Belgian nice weather :P
What you cannot do:
1. Almost impossible to get a local bank account if you are not registered.
2.You cannot work legally in the Belgian system unless you are registered and have national number.
3. Access to health care will be only urgent health care using your Spanish EHIC card any other healthcare issue you will have to pay 100% out of your pocked and it is quite pricey if you are not covered.

Fxxer (M.S)

Thank you for the reply. I clearly got the can't part. But while my wife is Spanish, i am not EU citizen. Can I benefit from her freedom as well?

AlexFromBelgium

Hello,

so your wife is Spanish and it seems your Turkish, so non-EU.


As long as you're with her, you do benefits from the EU rights.
If you're """splitted""" and elsewhere from her, then you do not benefit from the EU rights, and so you'd require visa blablabla.
But of course, if you receive your resident permit because you've settled in Belgium (F card - family member of EU member), then you can obviously live in your home residence and live your life/travel without your wife.
(no work permit for you btw, when you register at the commune, as your wife is Spanish)

Fxxer (M.S)

Thanks for the reply. So as I have understood,  I can't be registering to a commune even I am married with her.

Or?

AlexFromBelgium

Bah... you're coming on tourist visa C, 90d, right?
That's stupid to do a visa D (long stay) in your case as you'll be separated from your wife for at least 6 months :unsure
Instead, you come as a tourist, then start the family reunion process from Belgium and not from your home country.
Everything is legal, as your wife is EU.



You both need to register at the commune at the same address.
Or she goes first, then once everything's ok for her (1 to 3 months later), you can join her whenever you want. Might be even better, the time for her to find a job.


After the police visit to verify your address, you'll receive a temporary resident card (Orange card), valid for 3 + 3 months.
Then after 3 months, you've to give the family reunion file to the commune. Immigration will have 3 months to deny your request.
if no news (good news), then you'll receive the resident permit as a family member of EU 3 months later.

Before leaving your residence country,
you'll need your marriage certificate, certificate of birth, in case of previous divorce or widowhood, you'll have to add your certificate of divorce / death of spouse too.
Pick your criminal record too... they might ask, it depend on the commune.
You must apostille + translate all your official documents from Turkey.

Make sure no document are older than 6 months old before arriving in Belgium (some commune may accept 7, but it's case by case...)

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