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planner

This needs its own thread. We  whine and complain about electricity in this country all the time. Its expensive, its inefficient and bloody corrupt. Lets hope the gov't takes a look at it soon!

From Dominican Today:

Electricity Distributors post losses

Santo Domingo.-Domingo.- The Electricity distribution companies (EDE) managed to minimally improve their average losses last year, when compared to 2020, although seen separately in one of them the energy losses increased.

On average, the three EDEs managed to reduce their losses from 33.1% in 2020 to 32.6% in the following period, equivalent to a reduction of 0.5 percentage points.

This is established in the sector performance report, prepared by the Dominican Corporation of State Electric Companies (Cdeee), which indicates that Edeeste and Edenorte managed to reduce their losses, contrary to Edesur.

Edeeste, which is the worst of the distributors in terms of energy losses, was the one that managed to reduce this indicator the most in 2021.

Imagine private businesses losing this kind of money? Over and over and over again!

DominicanadaMike

CEPM:

16.79 per kwh in Punta Cana last month and it has been climbing by 1 peso per kwh every month for the last 3 months.

To top it off they aren't allowing any new solar installations.

planner

That's a private company too.

sberger50

Electric rates in the DR could be a lot more, considering it is an island.  My rates in Central Texas are about $.12/KWH, and the highest place in the States is San Diego at about $.34/KWH.  Mine may not be the cheapest, but the DR rates seem to be in the lower mid-range.  I can't complain!

ddmcghee

sberger50 wrote:

Electric rates in the DR could be a lot more, considering it is an island.  My rates in Central Texas are about $.12/KWH, and the highest place in the States is San Diego at about $.34/KWH.  Mine may not be the cheapest, but the DR rates seem to be in the lower mid-range.  I can't complain!


The 16.79 in Punta Cana, or the 14.50 in Las Terrenas is in DOP. So that's .26 to .31 in USD. If San Diego is the high point in the US at .34, I'd say DR is at the upper range.

planner

And remember the average income here is US 300 a month or somewhere close!  Now imagine paying these electrical rates.

This isn't about expats, this is about how can most Dominicans afford this!

Guest2022

Yes, but DR like all the Caribbean islands imports its fuel, mainly gas oil, for power generation so the electricity cost should be higher than mainland USA. Add old generation stations, innefficient providers, many not paying for electricity and government subsidies along with current high oil prices and thank onself lucky that the current tariffs are so low.

It is going to take several more years of dedicated governance to turn this listless ship around, rid the system of corruption and inefficiency and add investment in more efficient generation and distribution. By then hopefully the living wage has risen too because subsidy is not a remedy as years gone of a troubled supply of luz testify.

RockyM

The DR does have plenty of a certain powerful and highly efficient fuel source. The sun.   :top:

Guest2022

Superintendence orders a new increase in the electricity rate

The SIE justifies the increase in light due to "the current and widespread volatility in the international prices of mineral coal, natural gas, oil and fuels used for electricity generation"

This month until June of this year, users of the country's electricity service will receive in their billings a new increase in the price of the electricity rate that is sent to them each month by the Electricity Distribution Companies (Edes- Edesur, Edenorte and Edeeste), by order of the Superintendency of Electricity (SIE).

The measure, which is contained in the new resolution SIE-021-2022-TF, meets the provisions of the Electric Pact, will impact residential customer rates by 9% . ..........

Karin1

My March bill shows 21 cents and it was 20.6 per KWH for my Feb bill.  Yup, every month more.  Wish we could have solar panels on our roof here.  I am in Las Canas City which is Cap Cana and its just a few minutes from the Punta Cana airport.  The electricity provider is called Cap Cana Caribe. 

When I was in Bavaro with the provider CEPM, the cost was 14.32 cents per KWH. 

I am going to look into buying some reflective window films.  Anybody know if we can buy that here in Punta Cana area? 

Guest2022

That's double what the EDES will be charging. 

https://listindiario.com/economia/2022/04/01/715354/superintendencia-dispone-nueva-alza-en-la-tarifa-electrica

See link for article headline above. 

Tippj

@Karin1 

What if you go to where they do the window tinting for cars , I assume it’s the same materials…? I just had my truck done and they had  several different shades to choose from … maybe the guy will come and do it for you …. For a small fee $

DominicanadaMike

Karin1:  I bought a roll of window tint in the US and did my whole house.  Well worth it.  Try Home Depot.  The one I am using you can not see in so it doubles for privacy.  I have a lot of glass in my house so I wanted to have some privacy without having a whole pile of curtains.  Of course it also makes the house cooler and protects the glass.

planner

In .oat of the car places they will also do home windows.  And places that make the windows and patio doors will also offer window tinting.  Usually the car places are cheaper!  At least in Santo Domingo they are.

planner

So we are talking electricity.  Tinting house windows not vehicles.  Doing the house windows can reduce electric consumption if you use air conditioners.

Tinting of car windows locations was mentioned as a place to inquire about doing the house windows.

So yes I will have Lennox's comment moved to its own thread! It deserves a discussion as well.

Electricity in some parts of the country is provided by private companies and  charge what they want or the market tolerates. If you live in those areas that is the risk - pricing. And the trade off is you don't deal with capacity outages! You don't deal with the inefficiency   of the EDE system.

ddmcghee

Hearing this makes me so glad we're installing solar panels and batteries! Our initial decision was based on wanting to be a little "greener" and to address the frequent outages, but it's becoming more of an economic win! We will certainly have a shorter payback period than we expected.

We have double-paned windows with a layer of UV tint/protection between them. We also have acid etching on the bathroom windows below shoulder height. This way we get the light but maintain privacy! 


planner

Awesome!  Did you know there is a limit to the amount of solar installations allowed by area?  Yup, it needs approval! I am sure your engineers have that. 

It appears to be counter productive in a country with so many electrical issues!

DRCulture

Awesome!  Did you know there is a limit to the amount of solar installations allowed by area?  Yup, it needs approval! I am sure your engineers have that. 

It appears to be counter productive in a country with so many ... - @planner

Oh my gosh, well I better check with my construction manager about the solar panels. I did not know there was a limit. Perhaps he knows and it’s a non issue but I glad I am following discussion topics. 

Do you know why there are limits? Not that I was planning on a lot of them. I actually don’t know how many are even needed. 

Guest2022

I was reading that there is a proposed modification to the regulations on how much solar energy each house can produce. The idea being that every household needs to buy some electricity from the EDES. 

For sure changes are under discussion see below:

https://ensegundos.do/2022/02/21/el-gobierno-dominicano-pretende-cambiar-el-reglamento-a-quienes-se-benefician-de-la-energia-solar/

 Ignacio García, from the Association for the Promotion of Renewable Energy (Asofer), warned about the modifications that the Superintendence of Electricity plans to make to establish the rules and requirements to be able to install solar panels in homes and companies in to the detriment of those who benefit from this system.

When interviewed for Las Exclusivas de José Peguero, García considered that these modifications are intended to limit the size of customers' solar plants so that they have to contract the rest through the Electricity Distribution Companies (EDE), thus preventing customers from save less than 20 percent on the payment of the electric bill.


DominicanadaMike

Interesting.

They are called the "Association for the Promotion of Renewable Energy" yet they want to "limit" the amount any one household can produce...what a joke.  As if they have any way to control or enforce that but anyways, why would they want to do that?  If you produce an abundance of electricity, the local company doesn't buy it off of you for the same price you are paying.  I pay 16.79 pesos per kwh from the local co. and they credit me 3.3 pesos per kwh if I produce more than I consume.  I am trying to find ways to consume more energy because the credit they produce is a waste of my time...  I'm thinking of just occasionally shutting my system down just to avoid the overage...I know makes no sense...you don't have to tell me...

Also, its not as if the entire island is going to run out and spend 1000's of dollars on solar systems tomorrow...really, nothing better to think about?  limiting...leave those laws and ideas for the commercial and Industrial customers and leave residential customers alone!


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Guest2022

Asofer is expressing concern at what EDE is proposing. 

DominicanadaMike

DRCulture.  

If you have the right contractor, they should take care of everything.  Permits, size, ratings...everything.  In my area the local electrical company inspects the installation and must approve it before they connect the electricity to your home.  Any modifications afterwards are open for "discussion".

Guest2022

Your supplier is private and not an EDE so would be outside these potential changes.

It does not surprise me that national distribution companies want to control solar installations and often demand that the home be connected to their grid and supply solar back at a reduced rate. This is the case throughout the islands. Their dilemma is that they have a responsibility to provide electricity and maintain supplies to all customers who can't afford the likes of solar. The EDES have been subsidized heavily and have become very inefficient and that is going to end in the coming years as subsidies are removed and so they will be looking to maximize earnings from each and every customer and perhaps even those who have invested in their own solar perhaps.

Guest2022

@planner Really - this is news. Send source.

planner
@grawuku  no.  It has been months since I looked at this. I had a client wanting to get into the solar business, all  residential and no commercial work.  We worked with electrical engineers and  they all said the exact same thing. With the limitations on the approval of new connections by area and by  provider it was clearly not going to be worth it for them. 


Sorry I have zero time to look up the rules and regulations, then translate them.
Guest2022
I was out of the country this week and missed some serious power cuts from what I have been told and read.

There were very forceful protests and plenty of tyre burning from what I have seen.

It appears back to normal today as some of the generating plants  that went out of the system due to faults or planned maintenance.

Presidential spokesman says the electrical system is returning to normal throughout the country


Politicians have been blaming each other and the President placed the blame on the previous administrations for not investing in enough new generating plants to meet the growing economy. That has caused blowback and denials. The current government has taken a hit and is trying to get the message across that it is has been tendering and investing in new supplies since it came to power.

Electricity has been a problem in DR since I came here 16 years ago. We were told that Punta Catalina would solve it all and it did for a short period but the plant has broken down several times and half is out of the grid still with flaws.

A good result from the recent cuts is the government has decided to buy in surplus supply from a few private generators at the same cost as that from Punta Catalina as a reserve. They are using the floating generator again and new green energy will come online this year. More supply is expected next year and by 2024, an additional supply more than double Punta Catalina will be built and operational at less cost.

They also recognize a need to plan maintenance shut downs better to avoid the hottest periods. Surely they can plan to control the saragossa seaweed from entering the cooling water at the Itabo plants in Haina which were out of the supply this past week?

The suppliers are being made more efficient and the debt owed to those companies historically  and which have been a factor in past cuts have been reduced.

Past governments have failed and the people are fed up.

Can this government fix this essential infrastructure problem? I hope so.
planner
These issues have seriously effected the north coast.  In SD not so much.  It is once again a mess and I too hope this govt can resolve it
Guest2022
There is a lack of electricity generation in the north of the country and gets transmitted from the generators in the south sp suffer from transmission faults too.

The current governments proposed 2000MW gas plant at Manzanillo will solve that and should be complete by end 2024.

Unlike other tourist areas the North Coast does not have a private generation company. Las Teerenas did but the locals complained about the price and now they get from Edenorte and the nearest power plant is Pimental in Duarte.
planner
There was one in Puerto Plata but it closed a number of years ago
Guest2022
After blackouts
Legislators ask the government to dismiss the Cabinet of the Electricity Sector


Faced with the alleged investigation that the National Department of Investigation (DNI) has opened to determine the causes that caused the shutdown of several electricity plants that caused blackouts in the country, opposition legislators ask the government to dismiss the Cabinet of the Sector Electrical , since they say that these have shown that they do not have "capacity or management" to direct the national energy system.

Opponents denied that the blackouts in recent days were due to sabotage that should be investigated by the DNI, but rather that they were due to a lack of planning.

In defense of the Government, the ruling party emphasizes that the important thing is that in the last few hours there have been no blackouts in the country.

Interesting to find out what really happened.

Bottom line, DR needs much more power generation as reserve and for a growing economy and hot weather peaks and the planned 2000MW gas generation plant in the North East can't come quick enough because the 750MW Punta Catalina coal plant despite costing over $3bn is always breaking down and many of the other plants are old.

The current governments aim is to have 25% renewable by 2025 too from a starting low base of about half that and the objective is 44% by 2030.
planner
Political posturing and nothing more. Everyone blames everyone else and nothing really changes all that much.

Yes there is progress but way too slow and way too high a cost
rfmaurone
We can help be the change that is needed. I hope
jeanchris101
@DominicanadaMike

I was not aware of that.


Now it makes sense why I almost never see any villa in Bavaro/PC with solar panels
Guest2022
Politrickians - promise everything and deliver nothing. Story of our lives.
Guest2022
As an economy grows and people come out of poverty the need for electricity grows. For a very long time now governments in DR have been investing in electricity generation and distribution to catch up. The last government lauded the 760 MW Punta Catalina project as the solution and it was just and during the covid closedown.

But with an open and growing economy that is in the past and more generation is constantly needed with a 10/15% reserve.

The extra 2000MW planned and ordered by this government will be enough for a few years albeit over 2 years away but more and hopefully green generation should also follow so finally DR is ahead of the game. It will probably still be a struggle for those next 2 years.

Now lets get water for all too. Just like electricity governments past havent invested enough.

Politicians past here ignored the people, now the people are vocal and angry and want what should be their right. And if in government blame first falls on you.
Guest2022
Announced winners of plant tender in Manzanillo, "cheaper and with more energy than Punta Catalina"


The Haina Investmet Corporation and Manzanillo Energy consortia  were the winners of the tender for the construction of a terminal and two natural gas plants located in Manzanillo, province of Montecristi, which will contribute 800 megawatts.

Both plants will create 700 jobs during construction and will have an investment of 1.7 billion dollars, a figure that, according to President Luis Abinader , is lower and cheaper energy than that of Punta Catalina .

Haina Investmet Corporation won the auction for the construction of Block 1, made up of a 400-megawatt plant and a gas terminal. The price given was 8.84 cents per kilowatt hour.

Abinader announces that 2,000 megawatts of electricity will be installed between 2022 and 2026
While the Manzanillo Energy Consortium won the tender for Block 2, composed for a single plant, whose price is 5.82 cents per kilowatt hour.

A third consortium submitted its offer, but did not qualify. In total, 16 consortiums submitted technical offers, but of those, three offered economic offers.

The results of the tender, which began in May 2021 and was monitored by technical advisors, international firms, committees and university rectors, were presented during a press conference headed by President Abinader, Antonio Almonte, Minister of Energy and Mines; EDE executives and others involved.

Government prioritizes increasing installed capacity of the electricity sector, but will not invest a peso
The plants must be started in six months after the signing of the contracts, they will be completed in 42 months. They will be made up of modern turbines, which, in addition to working with natural gas, could do so with liquid hydrogen, according to the Government.

Abinader: DR, at the level of developed countries

In general, the Government plans to generate two thousand megawatts from 2022 to 2026, enough to cover the deficit and have a reserve of 15%, similar to developed countries, said President Abinader.

"Manzanillo will be a gas terminal and with a much lower investment than the more than three billion consumed in Punta Catalina by a smaller plant and on account of the nation's budget and debts"
Louis Abinader
Republic President

The head of state stated that three electric highways are being built: one of 345 kilowatts, from Manzanillo to Guayubín and from Guayubín to El Naranjo, Santiago.

Similarly, the tender for the construction of the 345 KV line from San Pedro Macorís to Guerra is in process and the tender for the construction of the 345 KV line from Punta Catalina to kilometer 15 of Azua will be launched soon.

Investing in more generation and distribution is and has been essential but has not happened effectively in DR to date. Hoping this government delivers finally.
Guest2022
Executive Power activates the stopwatch to end the blackouts in the country


The Dominican Government has given the starting signal to direct the national electricity system to the level of developed countries with the contribution of two thousand megawatts from now until 2026.

After more than a year of bidding, yesterday, President Luis Abinader and the Minister of Energy and Mines, Antonio Almonte , announced the winners of the bidding for two natural gas plants, plus a discharge terminal, to be built in the Bay of Manzanillo, Montecristi, with the capacity to generate 800 megawatts.

These are the Haina Investmet Corporation and Manzanillo Energy, which won a tender over 16 companies and will build the two plants divided into blocks.

Haina Investmet Corporation will build Block I, consisting of a natural gas plant with a capacity of 400 megawatts plus a gas terminal, whose price was offered at 8.84 cents per kilowatt/hour.

While the Manzanillo Energy consortium won the tender for the second plant with the same capacity of 400 megawatts, at a price of 5.82 cents per kilowatt hour.

Both plants will create 700 jobs during construction and will have an investment of 1,700 million dollars, of which money "the Government will not contribute a single peso", but will be financed by the investors of the two winning companies of the auction.

A third consortium submitted its offer, but did not qualify. In total, 16 consortiums submitted technical offers, but of those, three offered economic offers.

The gas plants in Manzanillos, which must begin construction within a maximum of six months after the contract has been signed, will be inaugurated in three and a half years, according to government projections.

“Cheaper than Punta Catalina”

Abinader presumes that the 800 megawatts that the Manzanillo plants will produce will be 120 more than those generated by the Punta Catalina Thermoelectric Power Plant and their cost will be cheaper.

"Manzanillo will be a gas terminal and with a much lower investment than the more than three billion consumed in Punta Catalina by a smaller plant and on account of the nation's budget and debts," said the head of state.

In general, the Government plans to generate two thousand megawatts in the next four years, enough to cover the current deficit and have a reserve of 15%, similar to developed countries, said President Abinader................
planner
I  sooooo hope that this works  well!
rfmaurone
Typically there are two cost to power, the first being generation and the second being distribution. That’s the way the bills are presented in my part of the United States.
Riva31
Typically there are two cost to power, the first being generation and the second being distribution. That’s the way the bills are presented in my part of the United States.
- @rfmaurone

Also there is a rate table that depends on how much electricity you use the rate per kwh change, big use then you will pay more if overpass the lowest rate limit.

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