Glucose Level Elevation since Covid Vaccinations and Booster

So sorry to hear about that. I hope you can get in under control soon.

Found some info on the web:

The nonprofit Beta Cell Foundation began collecting data with an online database in early 2021. It gathered hundreds of responses from people who’ve gotten one or both vaccine doses:

    After receiving their first vaccine dose (Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech), approximately 10 to 15 percent reported elevated blood sugars for a day or two. After their second dose, 23 to 29 percent reported elevated sugars.

    After vaccination with the J&J vaccine, 42 percent had elevated sugars.

    Two percent reported lower blood sugars, and one person reported both higher and lower blood sugars (perhaps a combo of both, due to shifting glucose levels).

    After receiving the second vaccine, approximately 30 percent reported elevated blood sugars, and less than 1 percent reported lower blood sugars.

    No significant differences were reported based on the type of vaccine received, Moderna versus Pfizer-BioNTech.

If someone does have a severe reaction to a vaccine or booster shot, it’s best to consult with a doctor or healthcare professional who knows your health situation.

Takeaway

COVID-19 vaccines and boosters are considered safe. Experts encourage people with diabetes to get vaccinated against COVID-19 because of the higher risk of severe illness from the disease.

While the vaccines and boosters are not guaranteed to affect glucose levels, some people living with diabetes do report minimal changes in their blood sugars.

Each person’s need and timing for a COVID-19 booster may vary. Talk with a doctor if you have any concerns about your diabetes management and COVID-19 vaccination.

https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/covid-vaccine-booster

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04923386

@Wingfat I previously researched Google and got this and similar Information. However, I just don't believe it is temporary elevated levels. I have not changed Activity (basically None) or Food type Intake. The same websites who say there are no issues are the same ones who didn't tell us about the many Illnesses or Deaths that occurred with some recipients. Now, some studies are showing that more people who received the Vaccinations contracted Covid than did those who did Not receive the Vaccinations. I took the Vaccinations in 2021 and the Booster in 2022 to allow me entry into local Malls/Supermarkets and Return to Philippines after 3-Year Visa Run this coming November from USA without being Quarantined.

Interesting Study on Sept 1st and earlier on this website.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/e … d-19-facts

I do accept the claim that by receiving the vaccines; I MAY have less chance of being severely ill with Covid and MAY have less need for Hospitalization. I don't believe that the Chinese cloth masks and Lockdowns did any good.

@talamban

There's always the consideration that type-2 diabetes is a progressive illness, and that with time/age the body's ability to metabolise glucose becomes less efficient. The good news is that generally it's a "treatable" condition - one can always visit their GP and tweek the oral medication, or consider other methods like insulin therapy. Lifestyle/diet choices play a big part, and is something you seem on top of - like doing regular BSL readings, minimizing the Dairy Queen etc.

I'm not saying it's not the vaccines causing raised BSL, mind you, and you know your body. Globally, there's a lot of strange medical trends happening, either as a result of the residual effects of having contracted covid (lung and heart disorders), or the covid vaccines themselves.

Not everyone responds to a foreign agent the same way. Take alcohol or peanuts for example, most people can tolerate them, while some have extreme allergies or addictions. In the case of peanuts, some have anaphylactic shock and die. I suggest the same would apply to vaccines, that a minor percentage of people will be hypersensitive, with the majority tolerant.

For me, the jury is still out on the residual effects of vaccines with mRNA modifying properties. After all, when the "pandemic" struck, there was a rush to develop and roll them out, not being pre-tested in clinical trials. Not all covid-19 vaccines have the same mechanism or efficacy. For example, the Sinovac version (from China) is considered ineffective against the Omicron variant, which is why they're still doing lockdowns.

Time will tell. I'm watching my body and also global demographic health trends. If I see anything on the increased incidence of type-2 diabetic (post -vaccine), will post on this stream.

Good health.

talamban . . . . Now, some studies are showing that more people who received the Vaccinations contracted Covid than did those who did Not receive the Vaccinations.

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Some time ago I also read the same thing said Spock.

I found that interesting but illogical Spock said to Captain Kirk.

(1) About 69% of the world population have received a covid vaccination, leaving 39% not vaccinated.

(2) The top 46 countries are 80% fully vaccinated, leaving 20% not vaccinated.

(3) So Spock concluded the pool for fully vaccinated was almost 400% larger with some exceptions than the unvaccinated.

(4) Scotty my work is done here, so beam me up.

@Enzyte Bob

Spock needs to go back to school on planet Vulcan if he thinks 69% of the population are vaccinated and 39% are not, he clearly cannot count.

Let's see what the Klingons say, they may make more sense.

@talamban Although there are some reports of temporary increases of blood glucose, long term increase related to the mRNA vaccine seems unlikely. Temporary elevation may be explained by the fact after inoculation your body is undergoing stress related to your immune system. You are reacting to foreign protein being manufactured by your cells via mRNA.

Stress can raise your blood glucose levels. This effect is relatively short lived and your chemistry should return to normal within a few weeks. There is no mechanism I know of that would cause this effect to become long term. If you feel you are experiencing an adverse effect to Pfizer's mRNA vaccine, you may report it at:

https://www.pfizersafetyreporting.com/

I'm a retired Pharmacist who, for a short time provided drug information for Moderna's mRNA Vaccine.

Nothing I post here is official in any way and I advise you to contact your Physician for further evaluation.

Type 2 diabetic here, nothing has changed since getting vaccine and boosters.

@Enzyte Bob
Spock needs to go back to school on planet Vulcan if he thinks 69% of the population are vaccinated and 39% are not, he clearly cannot count.
Let's see what the Klingons say, they may make more sense.
-@Cherryann01

From the New York Times: As of August 15, 2022, 5.33 Billion people have received a covid vaccination, that equaled 69.5 % of the world population, leaving 30.5 % unvaccinated, that is their math.

Bloomberg News: There has been 160 shots for every 100 people world wide.

Spock suggest you to do a Google search as he done and based his opinion from several sources. . . .

Do it before the Borgs assimilate you.

(All past Covid info was based on Plan 9 from outer space.)

@Wingfat I previously researched Google and got this and similar Information. However, I just don't believe it is temporary elevated levels. I have not changed Activity (basically None) or Food type Intake. The same websites who say there are no issues are the same ones who didn't tell us about the many Illnesses or Deaths that occurred with some recipients. Now, some studies are showing that more people who received the Vaccinations contracted Covid than did those who did Not receive the Vaccinations. I took the Vaccinations in 2021 and the Booster in 2022 to allow me entry into local Malls/Supermarkets and Return to Philippines after 3-Year Visa Run this coming November from USA without being Quarantined.
Interesting Study on Sept 1st and earlier on this website.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/e … d-19-facts
I do accept the claim that by receiving the vaccines; I MAY have less chance of being severely ill with Covid and MAY have less need for Hospitalization. I don't believe that the Chinese cloth masks and Lockdowns did any good.
-@talamban

RE:  Now, some studies are showing that more people who received the Vaccinations contracted Covid than did those who did Not receive the Vaccinations.

Your information sources are defective. Whatever "Studies" they refer to are either flawed, misleading or just plain lies. You are more then welcome to believe this.

@Enzyte Bob

I have never heard of the Borgs, maybe I should  get Scotty to beam me up sharpish.

@Wingfat

I'm not sure the contraction rate of covid is as relevant as symptom severity, which seems to be one of the assumptions in this conversation.

After all, the WHO is aiming at pandemic neutralisation through "herd immunity", which by default means everyone (in a given population) will be exposed to covid at some time or another. Their thinking is, with milder symptoms, covid spikes will become a normal part of life (much like flu season), and everyone will recurrently contract covid, at some time or another.

The companies producing vaccines never promised total immunity, but rather symptom reduction. They say there's increasing evidence that covid vaccines slow transmission rates. Bob argues unvaccinated populations have less covid-positivity, and has some good stats, fair enough. It could be however that those unwilling to be vaccinated are also unwilling to be tested, hence skewing the numbers, because likely those who've contracted a milder form of the illness have not been confirmed.

My former college was an ICU registrar working in a critical care ward in Qatar. In other words, Dr Riffat worked in a specialist team treating covid patients on a daily basis, keeping them on ventilators and ECMO machines, and was present through the roll-out of the national vaccination program. Now he works in New York as a medic, but I called him asking about the effectiveness and side effects of the Pfizer vaccine, which was issued in Qatar. I wanted to know if it worked, or had risks, because I was considering vaccination at the time. He had considerable first hand experience.

Dr Riffat was emphatic, saying after the Qatari vaccination roll-out, ONLY those on the ventilators in the ICU ward were unvaccinated. He added Qatar is not a standard population, most are expatriate workers under retirement age, being health-screened for blood-borne diseases (Hep B, HIV) and TB prior to arrival. Meaning, they're a healthier than average population. Also, everyone is required to be vaccinated under their ETHERZ program, which is a compliance and tracing system.

I still think the long-term effects of the covid vaccines are not established. How can they be? Again, clinical trials were accelerated or abandoned, so no-one knows what the future effects of mRNA vaccines will be, because we haven't been there yet.

@Cherryann01 I heard the Starship Intercourse is flying around Uranus and wiping out Klingon's..

@Cherryann01 I heard the Starship Intercourse is flying around Uranus and wiping out Klingon's..
-@mrlugubrious

Sounds a bit like Flesh Gordon, where Emperor Wang, the leader of planet Porno sent his Sex Ray towards earth.

Also since Enzyte Bob mentioned Spock, I can't get the song, (Where's Captain Kirk by Spizzenergi) out of my mind.

@gsturdee Correct... the mRNA vaccines have not been "tested" long term but so far so good. No one ever promised that the vaccine (mRNA type) would prevent  disease. They did however have evidence that if you did get sick.. you would have milder symptoms and would be less likely to need critical hospital care. The anti-vaxxers have benefited indirectly from the high degree of vaccinated people. The fear of vaccines goes back to the very first vaccine.. and increased when a batch of live polio vaccine was accidentally given out https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/    . Many children contracted Polio sadly.

While there are legitimate fears which I knowledge, most anti-vaxx sediment today was driven by click-bate profit motives and Russian anti-vax disinformation campaign. ( I actually did the research as part as my Moderna training) for example: https://www.voanews.com/a/russian-anti-vaccine-disinformation-campaign-backfires/6318536.html    and many other sources of information... do your own research.

@wingfat

I think you're saying what I've been saying?

"The companies producing vaccines never promised total immunity, but rather symptom reduction." @gsturdee

"No one ever promised that the vaccine (mRNA type) would prevent disease. They did however have evidence that if you did get sick.. you would have milder symptoms and would be less likely to need critical hospital care. " @wingfat

"I still think the long-term effects of the covid vaccines are not established." @gsturdee

"the mRNA vaccines have not been "tested" long term but so far so good" @wingfat

I agree completely "anti-vax" sentiment can cause health damage to populations. I worked with a Canadian Nurse Educator, who volunteered with an NGO after the devastating Nepal earthquake in 2015. There was a polio outbreak, and she witnessed first-hand the harmful effects of under-vaccination, and became a convincing advocate of infant polio immunization.

Echoing you, everyone should be vigilant and do their own research, as not every new health initiative proves beneficial. As a pharmacist you will know well some drugs have been released onto the market (and prescribed by doctors) that did more harm than good, and needed to be recalled. Ethical clinical trialling is an essential component of drug development and approval. In the case of the mRNA vaccines, the urgency was so great that they were released onto the market before intermediate and long-term trials weren't conducted. This is well documented.

https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories/ho … de-effects

There are multiple mRNA research projects currently underway, for real populations (and not just clinical cohorts). Soon... we'll know how we're doing.

YES we are on the page......

Glycogen Storage Disease Type 1a (GSD1a)

Cytomegalovirus (CMV)

Infectious mononucleosis, Mononucleosis, Mono

Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infection (RSV)

Human metapneumovirus (hMPV)

Methylmalonic Acidemia (MMA)   

These are current trials for different mRNA vaccines by Moderna. It will be a new world in medicine in the not too distant future.

https://trials.modernatx.com/search-results/?PageIndex=0

Hello everyone,

Please note that we are drifting off-topic here.

The purpose of this thread is : Glucose Level Elevation since Covid Vaccinations

@ Talamban, in any case, check with your doctor for medical advice.

Take care,

Bhavna

@Bhavna Yes a bit of divergence.. Since I think the question of Blood Glucose was somewhat answered, the forum took on some drift. And yes, no advice found on any forum should be followed until verified by your own health care professional.

@Wingfat

"Nothing I post here is official in any way and I advise you to contact your Physician for further evaluation".@wingfat

"The good news is that generally it's a "treatable" condition - one can always visit their GP and tweek the oral medication."@gsturdee

Indirectly some of the discussions were related, but got a little complex, because ultimately the outcome of the research suggested will answer @talambans initial question.

Opinions about vaccinations are a sensitive matter however, and moderators have to guard against misinformation. Thank you.

@Wingfat
"Nothing I post here is official in any way and I advise you to contact your Physician for further evaluation".@wingfat

"The good news is that generally it's a "treatable" condition - one can always visit their GP and tweek the oral medication."@gsturdee

Indirectly some of the discussions were related, but got a little complex, because ultimately the outcome of the research suggested will answer @talambans initial question.

Opinions about vaccinations are a sensitive matter however, and moderators have to guard against misinformation. Thank you.



-@gsturdee

re: Opinions about vaccinations are a sensitive matter however, and moderators have to guard against misinformation. Thank you.

Yes...it up to the individual using their god given brain to navigate all information or fall victim to the laws of natural selection. Click here for next topic ---->

@talamban Cured my full-blown diabetes/high blood pressure in 6 months through OMAD/IF/KETO/ZERO SUGAR diet ... also dropped down from 110kg to 65kg today ... not easy the first two weeks, but after your system gets of the sugar/processed food withdrawls ... it's smooth sailing! I am down to my high school days weight and fitness levels ... and I enter my 57th year of life on Sept 9!!! #AUTOPHAGY ... Also got off all medications and now focus on "food is medicine" and "eat to beat disease" ... a guy named Dr William Li is who teaches about this kind of lifestyle/diet. But it is not e]for everybody, because it take HUGE amount of discipline ... no problem for me since I did 18 years on active duty in the USMC. Good luck with it whatever you do!

@Friday with Mateo Why not start a new topic?

From Wingfat . . .The fear of vaccines goes back to the very first vaccine.. and increased when a batch of live polio vaccine was accidentally given out https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl … 764/ . Many children contracted Polio sadly.

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Side note of my Polio experience:

As I child I had Polio before any vaccine was available. Our house was quarantined for over a month, with a large sign attached to the front of the house warning others. My sister of school age was not allowed in school for over a month, all of her school books were burned.

My rehabilitation was at the Sister Kenny Institute (Buffalo NY) every Saturday for years. Half a day of hot packs on my  muscles and then held down and stretched. It was painful and I cried a lot. It was a success and I live a normal life.

I met Sister Kenny, she visited our house and she admired one of my Mom's end table and my mother gave it to her. Please take the time to read about her on Wikipedia.

Years later when the Salk vaccine was available I was vaccinated.

<p>Gsturdee writes,</p><p><br></p><p><em>"I still think the long-term effects of the covid vaccines are not established ... In the case of the mRNA vaccines, the urgency was so great that they were released onto the market before intermediate and long-term trials weren't conducted. This is well documented."  -@gsturdee</em></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Speculation regarding mRNA vaccines and glucose levels will be avoided .. if we can find non-mRNA cures ...</p><p><br></p><p>For example, a quote yesterday:  https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science … strong>"Tiny discovery in Chinese lab could be a big deal in stopping Covid-19"</strong></h3><p><strong><br></strong></p><ul><li><strong>Scientists say their nanomaterial ‘serves as a trap for the virus’</strong></li></ul><p><br></p><ul><li><strong>Findings show the material can stop infections from all major variants</strong></li></ul><p><strong><br></strong></p><p><strong>By Zhang Tong in Beijing  Published: 12:24pm, 2 Sep, 2022 ...</strong></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

@PalGsturdee writes,"I still think the long-term effects of the covid vaccines are not established ... In the case of the mRNA vaccines, the urgency was so great that they were released onto the market before intermediate and long-term trials weren't conducted. This is well documented." -@gsturdee

Speculation regarding mRNA vaccines and glucose levels will be avoided .. if we can find non-mRNA cures ...

For example, a quote yesterday: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science … g-covid-19

"Tiny discovery in Chinese lab could be a big deal in stopping Covid-19"

• Scientists say their nanomaterial serves as a trap for the virus

• Findings show the material can stop infections from all major variants

By Zhang Tong in Beijing, Published: 12:24pm, 2 Sep, 2022 ...

@PalawOne

Isn't that interesting! Viruses are naturally-occurring nanoparticles, so it does make sense that proposed covid treatments might feature nanotechnology solutions.

siRNA and mRNA mechanisms, according to the article below, use nanotechnology as a carrier, so RNA strands can evade biological gatekeepers, and pass through to the cell. However, this solution you're citing PalawOne, is looking to keep the virus out of the cell in the first place.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/01/how … ines-work/

That we now have the capability to organise particles for medicine at a molecular level, boggles my mind. I guess it'll be an increasing fluence in our daily life.

Linking this to the original question of @tamalban. If a covid-related treatment becomes available, using molecular filters and barriers, then the residual effects of mRNA vaccines (such as exacerbation of existing illness such as type-2 diabetes) would be avoided.

Having a background in rotating equipment reliability I look at things as time based. When you buy a new car you know it will not last forever but with regulary maintenence and barring accidents it should be around for a relatively long time.

My dad worked in the West Virginia coal mines for 35 years and suffered from black lung disease later in life. Dad died just shy of his 93rd birthday. The careful maintenence of my mom and modern medicince added considerable time to his life, but the medicines that extended his life eventully killed him by destroying his kidneys.

By now covid has killed 1.04 million people in the US. Judging by the bar graph many or most of the unvaccinated deaths would not have been from covid if they had been fully vaccinated. They would have had to wait on the next fatal thing in their time among the living.

I don't know much about diabetes but this is what I found on diabetes.org.UK:

"When you get the vaccine, your body will start to produce what’s called an immune response. This is nothing to worry about. Your body is just reacting to the vaccine because the vaccine is new to you.

Your body needs energy to produce this immune response, so it may release some extra glucose (sugar). This is what leads to your blood sugar increasing."

@Enzyte Bob

Just noting your experience with polio. Tough start in life, and seems you've come far. Testament to your strength and the care of those around you.

In today's BBC World News, polio it seems is back in the USA. "New York declares state of emergency over polio", By Sam Cabral, BBC News, Washington.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62857112

In 1979, US was declared "polio free", and then there became complacency with vaccinations, and now this.

@Enzyte Bob
Just noting your experience with polio. Tough start in life, and seems you've come far. Testament to your strength and the care of those around you.

In today's BBC World News, polio it seems is back in the USA. "New York declares state of emergency over polio", By Sam Cabral, BBC News, Washington.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62857112

In 1979, US was declared "polio free", and then there became complacency with vaccinations, and now this.
-@gsturdee

As per your link to the news article but it doesn't mention legal or illegal migration into the US. Other infectious diseases are also being imported.

@Enzyte Bob

Yes, I'm sure that's a factor too.

There was a study that found that consuming garlic could help reduce levels of blood sugar in people suffering from type 2 diabetes, as well as offering other benefits in the treatment of the metabolic condition.

I'm still on my regular raw dosage.

And of course it keeps the Vampires away. Can't be too careful

@talamban

yes, I’ve been struggling to keep my blood glucose under control since I’ve had my three Pfizer vaccine shots. Now I have to use Ozempic 1g four times a month injections. It’s my last resort before I get put on insulin. I stopped drinking alcohol and try to eliminate sugar at every turn, and lift weights at the gym and walk to close the rings on my Apple Watch which around 4.5 miles a day minimum.

@jpeelersr Thx for confirming my thoughts. Although Anecdotal since there are no specific studies to confirm that Glucose Levels do Increase long term FOR SOME after the Vaccines, there are enough people who have gone from About 150 Levels to over 250 without any other changes. Mine was at 320 last week, now down to 280 this morning. Notice on Synthetic Insulin Injections. Four year ago my Doc in US changed me from Oral to Injections. Levels spiked to over 400 with recommended dosage. I changed back to Oral and returned to 150 average. Doc said I shd have just significantly increased the injection dosage, which would have cost me over $1,000 a month, even with Medicare. I am just hoping that Levels will eventually come down. Time will tell. Let me know how you are doing after some time with the injections; and estimated costs here in Philippines.

@talamban My wife's whole left side of her body was nearly completely paralyzed for three days, her mother had bad headaches and fever, and her brother broke out with huge red circular red welts like giant

ringworm. I knew not to take it.

@talamban My wife's whole left side of her body was nearly completely paralyzed for three days, her mother had bad headaches and fever, and her brother broke out with huge red circular red welts like giant
ringworm. I knew not to take it.
-@iloveyho2018

(1) Well some people reported a heavy arm, my wife also, but that's not a good enough reason to lambast the vaccine.

(2) Fever seems another side effect, when I got my first vaccine they gave out a strip of paracetamol.

(3) Welts like giant ringworm is an oddity, that's a new side effect.

(4) Has everyone recovered from being paralyzed, fever and welts?