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Moving to Da Nang and open a Brew Coffee Bar

Last activity 20 September 2023 by Valerie Han

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JUAN PABLO PAZ

I live currently in Ubud, Bali and I went to Vientanam some months ago and I really liked the vibe and people, what do you say of my idea?

I travel with my family, we are 4.

secedit

The market is already saturated and tourism is nothing like it was pre 2021.  Need to make a living here for 4 people on coffee, forget it!

uyenchu0711

@JUAN PABLO PAZ I totally agree with a previous comment that the market here is saturated and overwhelmed with coffee shops, just forget it, Juan. (Replied by a Vietnamese woman of 40-yr-old) :)

Max Schenkle

Juan, don't allow people who are negative about their own lifestyle choices take away from following your passions.  Where there's a will, there's a way.

Tourism ebs and flows regardless of the country so if you have a desire to relocate here follow your path.

Yes, always do your own research and weigh "YOUR OWN" pros and cons.  But don't ever allow someone else to discourage you! 

Bhavna

@JUAN PABLO PAZ Hello and welcome !


I would suggest that you read the following article to gather as much information as possible : Start a business in Vietnam


Regards

Bhavna

uyenchu0711

@Max Schenkle Yes, we all want good for him. It's just a warning for him to look into reality. If his desire strong enough, well research, with unique selling point, he can do whatever he thinks right for himself and get success with it. The feeling of visiting some place new with fresh emotion is easily to understand, but opening a business there is something totally different.

edmundjew

@JUAN PABLO PAZ


Danang is great place. I just return from Danang and Hoi An. I have been there many times and personally think you moving to Danang is a great move. Good luck. Ed

goodolboy


    Juan, don't allow people who are negative about their own lifestyle choices take away from following your passions.  Where there's a will, there's a way.
Tourism ebs and flows regardless of the country so if you have a desire to relocate here follow your path.
Yes, always do your own research and weigh "YOUR OWN" pros and cons.  But don't ever allow someone else to discourage you! 
   

    -@Max Schenkle


OMG get real man, the last thing Vietnam needs is another coffee bar & nothing to do with "taking away any ones passions". its called reality. So dream on but welcome to the real world!

Aidan in HCMC

I live currently in Ubud, Bali and I went to Vientanam some months ago and I really liked the vibe and people, what do you say of my idea? I travel with my family, we are 4.     -@JUAN PABLO PAZ

Have you looked in to the requirements in VN to be issued a DT Visa (Investor visa)? (Link Google search)

The DT4 requires the least amount of capital input.


Aside from the 3 billion VND (~$120,000 USD) for a DT4, which will get you only a 12 month visa, there is also the overhead and the building of a customer base. Count on 3 years of losing money (this, according to restaurant,cafe owner friends of mine) before you realize any profit. From what I understand, that DT4 cannot be renewed, rather, you must reapply at the end of its validity and again show capital input (happy to be corrected on this if I'm wrong). Thank you OceanBeach92107 for the correction, below.


You didn't mention the ages of your children, but if school expenses are to be factored in, an international school will easily run you ~$1,500 month/each child (~$3,000 for two children, minimum). Enrollment in the public school system here is not an option.


Health insurance must also be considered. Though substantially less expensive here in VN, paying out-of-pocket is not something I would recommend in light of your having dependants.


If money is no problem or concern for at least the first 3 years, then why not?

OceanBeach92107

    I live currently in Ubud, Bali and I went to Vientanam some months ago and I really liked the vibe and people, what do you say of my idea? I travel with my family, we are 4.     -@JUAN PABLO PAZ

Have you looked in to the requirements in VN to be issued a DT Visa (Investor visa)? (Link Google search)
The DT4 requires the least amount of capital input.
Aside from the 3 billion VND (~$120,000 USD) for a DT4, which will get you only a 12 month visa, there is also the overhead and the building of a customer base.

    -@Aidan in HCMC


A 1-year ĐT4 business visa currently requires ₫600,000,000 VNĐ capital contribution; about $24,605.00 USD at today's exchange rate.


A ĐT3 investor visa which qualifies for up to a 3-year Temporary Resident Card is the one which currently requires a ₫3,000,000,000 VNĐ (about $123,027.00 USD) capital contribution.

OceanBeach92107

    I live currently in Ubud, Bali and I went to Vientanam some months ago and I really liked the vibe and people, what do you say of my idea?
I travel with my family, we are 4.
   -@JUAN PABLO PAZ


It's a fine idea without any plan, apparently.


It depends upon many things.


Is your brew coffee the best in the world?


You might be able to create a business that would attract enough foreign customers to make it profitable.


Maybe.


But you'd have to pull in all your profits during the high season in order to sustain you and your family during monsoon season.


Business rental rates are obscenely high right now in the An Tượng tourist area and most of the foreigner visitors are budget-minded backpackers & digital nomads who want the cheapest coffee possible with maximum WiFi while they tie up one of your tables for a few hours. 


Come back to us with a solid plan backed by sufficient capital and a history of success in this particular business field and you might receive more supportive responses.


Otherwise, you're just another dreamer imagining the improbable.


Good luck!

jayrozzetti23

Yes, you should at least consider a different product.


I suppose they're still there selling their doughnuts, but when I was there, there was a Russian family in Vung Tau with loads of people (mostly locals) lined up to buy them and causing traffic jams every afternoon.


Never tried their doughnuts (don't need the calories), so not sure if they were good or not, but the main point is that they had basically ZERO competition.

goodolboy




Business rental rates are obscenely high right now in the An Tượng tourist area and most of the foreigner visitors are budget-minded backpackers & digital nomads who want the cheapest coffee possible with maximum WiFi while they tie up one of your tables for a few hours. 



Otherwise, you're just another dreamer imagining the improbable.

Good luck!
   

    -@OceanBeach92107


Not only in tourist areas OB if you go outside & cater to the locals they will gladly come to your place as a regular, buy one coffee (if you are lucky, if not lucky 4 people will buy one coffee & share it & drink the free cold tea) stay there all day as you say, use the internet, use the toilets, sit there inside in the nice cold room with AC that you as the owner are paying for.

Valerie Han

Hi Juan! Da Nang will be a perfect, good place to set up restaurants and bars or anything that you may want to offer. Da Nang has beautiful beaches, safe, and has the best human resources. People there, are so careful and seriously nice workers. If you are interested in set up your own taproom or micro crafted beer brewery , or simply have your own beer manufacture, please do not hesitate to drop me an email at [link moderated] . I'm happy to be a partner or a supporter.

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