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What is needed to register a car in Hungary?

Last activity 01 October 2018 by Angolhapsi

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ibohus

Hello!
My name is Ibrahim Huseynli and I'm a student in Hungary. I'm a really big  car enthusiast and i have enough information about  most of the common cars. But I always thought if i can buy a car from germany with or without (30 days red transit number) registering the car for selling it in Hungary . I would like to know what kind of steps do i need to take.
Thanks in advance!!

*Note: on previous post I forgot to mention Hungary.

beppi

To get information about Hungarian car import/export rules and formalities, you better post on the Hungary forum.
There are already MANY car dealers exporting cars from Germany to Eastern European countries, so competition will be still. Are you sure you can do as good as or better than them?

IntiAlDiamond

When you buy a European car for export to Azerbaijan, you do not pay VAT in the EU as you are not going to be using the item in the EU - you pay it in Azerbaijan. If you bring to a car to (let us use Libya, as an example, which doesn't have any import duties), you register the car locally and no taxes are paid.

If you buy a car in Germany, for the German/EU/EEA customs union market, you pay VAT in Germany and upon delivering proof of VAT being paid in an EU member-state, you are able to register the car in another member-state without paying any more taxes on top.

Sweden charges huge taxes on classic American cars but cars over 25 years of age are taxed at 5% VAT in the UK. Many classical car enthusiasts first import their classical cars into the UK, register them there (a proof of ID is not required to register a car under your name, neither is a proof of address) and then transfer registration inside Sweden for a country from one EU/EEA member to be re-registered in another.

Between 2005 and 2008, JD Classics had imported from outside the EU some 35 cars, many of them Jaguar XK and E-Type models, and had relied on the collectors’ item tariff that allows zero import duty and a 5% reduced rate of VAT

The case considered the guidelines that HMRC officials use in determining whether an old vehicle being imported from outside EU qualifies as a “collectors’ piece of historical interest”.  On ordinary cars, customs duty is payable at 10% of the value at import, plus normal rate VAT on the whole amount.  However older vehicles may be imported under tariff heading 97.05 (collections and collectors’ pieces of historical interest), where customs duty is nil, and VAT is charged at an effective rate of 5%.

The difficulty comes in deciding what vehicles qualify under heading 97.05.  The rules stem from a 1985 decision of the European Court of Justice.   To qualify, the vehicle has to be relatively rare, no longer in normal use for the purpose for which it was originally made, sold outside the normal vehicle trade, and of high value.  In addition the vehicle should illustrate an important stage in the development of the motor car.

In November 2009, the European Commission updated its guidelines to national customs authorities.  These now confirm that there is a presumption of “historical interest” in favour of vehicles which are in their original state, without substantial changes to the chassis, steering or braking system and engine, at least 30 years old, and of a model or type which is no longer in production.

Martin Emmison explains: "The main change is that there is now more emphasis on originality and less on age - previously, any vehicle made before 1950 would qualify as a collectors’ item; now it might not, if it has been modified, is incomplete or is very ordinary.  It also opens the possibility of importing on this favourable basis a vehicle that is less than 30 years old, if you can demonstrate that the particular model ‘evidences a significant step in the evolution of human achievements or illustrates a period of that evolution’.


Malta and Greece, however, say that unless you are transferring residency into these countries from abroad (where you must have lived for over 6 months and driven the car for more than 5000km since new), you also owe them an "initial registration tax" - which is another form of VAT. So sure, you could bring in a German-taxed car but you'd pay a similar 15-21% VRT tax in Malta upon first registration. EU rules forbid this but for some reason some EU member-states are able to flout this regulation without any punishment

Another thing to note: if you live in the US in a state where there is no sales tax, you can buy a Camaro (or any other exclusively-American car) tax-free, keep it for 6 months, drive it for more than 5k km (or 5k mi, in the UK) and then take it with you (free of taxes) to the EU country you decide to settle in - In this case, the Maltese/Greek de-facto import duties mentioned above also do not apply.

If you genuinely owned the car and are abandoning your previous place of residency (AZ, LY, US) for another within the EU, there is nothing except the admin fee to get your car registered and license plates to pay for.

I see that you're from Azerbaijan. If you speak Russian, let's talk on WhatsApp *** - I'm familiar with EU laws and import/export procedures

Ciao,
Ivan

Moderated by Priscilla 6 years ago
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ibohus

Hello thank you for the information. All i want a do is buy drive it to Hungary Budapest and then sell it just a one car. I know very well that are so many competitors. But this is just for my experience.
Thank you very much!

ibohus

Thank you very much for the huge information and yes i do speak a little bit russian definitely gonna text you for further information.
Thank you!

Priscilla

Hi ibohus,

Your topic is now on the Hungary forum.

Thank you,

Priscilla
Expat.com team  :cheers:

ibohus

ThAnk you very much!

fluffy2560

ibohus wrote:

Hello thank you for the information. All i want a do is buy drive it to Hungary Budapest and then sell it just a one car. I know very well that are so many competitors. But this is just for my experience.
Thank you very much!


You can do it without too many problems but you still have to pay the registration fees, vehicle tests, number plates and security check and all the rest of it. 

There's no VAT on a vehicle imported from Germany so long as the VAT was paid there and the vehicle is secondhand.

If you bring a car to Hungary, make sure it has a Certificate of Conformity and European Type Approval.  This will show it's compatible with EU standards.

If you don't speak Hungarian, you'll need someone to help you.

This subject has been much discussed in these forums. Search for it!

ibohus

Thank you a lot for the information. Reason I posted this question I couldn't find any information except some were in hungarian.
Thanks!

fluffy2560

ibohus wrote:

Thank you a lot for the information. Reason I posted this question I couldn't find any information except some were in hungarian.
Thanks!


There aren't any postings here in Hungarian.

Use the search feature in these forums!

There's a lot of discussion about it.

SimCityAT

fluffy2560 wrote:
ibohus wrote:

Thank you a lot for the information. Reason I posted this question I couldn't find any information except some were in hungarian.
Thanks!


There aren't any postings here in Hungarian.

Use the search feature in these forums!

There's a lot of discussion about it.


I think he means when he has done searches like Google?, all that came up were in Hungarian which is what you would expect I guess??

fluffy2560

SimCityAT wrote:
fluffy2560 wrote:
ibohus wrote:

Thank you a lot for the information. Reason I posted this question I couldn't find any information except some were in hungarian.
Thanks!


There aren't any postings here in Hungarian.

Use the search feature in these forums!

There's a lot of discussion about it.


I think he means when he has done searches like Google?, all that came up were in Hungarian which is what you would expect I guess??


Sure but a lot of people don't even bother to search in these forums. 

There are probably a 100 posts on this topic in these forums.

IntiAlDiamond

If you're a student bringing back a car for your own personal use, you may not need to register the car in Hungary

If you want to resell cars, there may be dealer licenses/permits you need. Reselling cars is a cash-earning commercial activity, you may also need a work/residency permit.

I haven't heard from you since, check your inbox

Angolhapsi

hello,
first, and most important, you need an address card & tax card for hungary.
then, you present the German registered car for its 'pre registration Muszaki test [like the TUV test / MOT in UK], present it elsewhere for its 'eredeti vizsgalat' originality conformation check, then you head for you local VAM [customs & excise office] and pay the relevant dues, then finally its off to your local 'onkormanyzat' to get your documents, licence plates etc etc - there is, predictably, a fee at every step - and, by the time you need your documents, you need to have organised Insurance too, which they will do on your chassis number.
it takes me 2 days, and i charge 50,000ft for the ones i do - oh, and you need an Hungarian speaker, too ;-)
Enjoy!
Toby

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