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Bhavna

Hello everyone,

As an expat, your day-to-day life in Brazil is impacted by decision-making at the political level in your host country as well as in your country of origin. We would like to know how involved you think expats should be in the political day-to-day of either their host or home country?

Can expats vote during elections which take place in their country of origin? Can you do so online or through embassies/consulates in Brazil?

What is the administrative process which has been set up in Brazil to enable expats to vote in their country of origin?

To which extent should political life in Brazil include expats and their concerns? Should they be more active as a community to make their voices heard?

Are there any precautionary measures to observe during election period in your host country? Any local prohibitions?

Do you keep up with politics in Brazil?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Bhavna

GuestPoster204

I do keep up with politics in Brazil but only as a precaution of anything bad that may occur and affects my well-being as an expat. I don´t discuss or talk about it with other people because it creates troubles or other problems.

Texanbrazil

They Consulate and embassy's notify me at election time in home country and assist with registration.
Yes I monitor both home and in Brazil as to politics and taxes as said which may affect me.

GuestPoster204

robal wrote:

I do keep up with politics in Brazil but only as a precaution of anything bad that may occur and affects my well-being as an expat. I don´t discuss or talk about it with other people because it creates troubles or other problems.


Same Boat, I was warned about the Passion of Brasilian Politics....it's like Religion I stay far away...I just stay abreast of the Political Climate and it is allways "HOT"....Need to know  when to Skidaddle....

abthree

As a guest in Brazil, I don't feel it appropriate to comment too much on local politics.  It's sort of like commenting on people's relatives while a guest in their home:  THEY may be able to criticize the cousins, but may take it amiss from outsiders.   There's also a strain of xenophobia in Brazilian culture that's usually kept just below the surface, but it's best not to bring out.

With respect to home politics in the US, degree of participation depends on the expat's residence status.   There's no voting at diplomatic facilities, because in the US elections are the responsibility of the states, not the Federal Government.   Expats who retain residences in the US can vote a normal, complete absentee ballot, containing all offices and candidates, provided by their home election officials,  by mail. 

I understand that for expats like me, who don't maintain a US residence, the last state where we resided will provide a special mail-in ballot on request, that includes the candidates for President and Vice President only.

Mikeflanagan

I totally agree with robal, like people will ask me what i think about brazilian politics all the time, default canned response is - I love being here, but its not my place to decide for brazilians who should run their country.

I do enjoy keeping a low profile on everything, keeps things simpler. as for back home in canada. because im not there - i feel that i should not contribute to voting as its a bit of a rhetoric  issue as im not invested there.

Mike in São Paulo

Until fairly recently I haven't really paid much attention to Brazilian politics. Not really my place other than to know if I should watch my back when out and about. I've gotten the picture of "Welcome to Brazil. Thank you for your dollars. Keep out of our business."

I get something of the same reaction when commenting about American politics: "What business is it of yours? You  don't live here anymore!" Mostly from supporters of the purveyor of a certain Made in China red hat. Quite a few of them even think I lost my U.S. citizenship (automatically) when I moved here.

I arranged for my absentee fax- or mail-in ballot before I moved here in 2012. I vote because it does affect me. 99% of my income is from U.S. sources and I still have to pay taxes, which have gone up since 2016 for me as a small business owner.

GuestPoster204

Mike in São Paulo wrote:

Until fairly recently I haven't really paid much attention to Brazilian politics. Not really my place other than to know if I should watch my back when out and about. I've gotten the picture of "Welcome to Brazil. Thank you for your dollars. Keep out of our business."

I get something of the same reaction when commenting about American politics: "What business is it of yours? You  don't live here anymore!" Mostly from supporters of the purveyor of a certain Made in China red hat. Quite a few of them even think I lost my U.S. citizenship (automatically) when I moved here.

I arranged for my absentee fax- or mail-in ballot before I moved here in 2012. I vote because it does affect me. 99% of my income is from U.S. sources and I still have to pay taxes, which have gone up since 2016 for me as a small business owner.


Hi Mike. Long time no hear. Nice to see you back at the forum.

mugtech

Mikeflanagan wrote:

I totally agree with robal, like people will ask me what i think about brazilian politics all the time, default canned response is - I love being here, but its not my place to decide for brazilians who should run their country.


Perhaps if James Woodward would have used that approach he would still be alive today.

Texanbrazil

Really???
RIP James.

GuestPoster204

mugtech wrote:
Mikeflanagan wrote:

I totally agree with robal, like people will ask me what i think about brazilian politics all the time, default canned response is - I love being here, but its not my place to decide for brazilians who should run their country.


Perhaps if James Woodward would have used that approach he would still be alive today.


It´s possible that one of the aspects that contributed to his demise could have been that. He was very outspoken. Brazilians debate with passion politics, religion and futebol (soccer)!

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Really???
RIP James.


Brazilians are very "territorial." They piss on areas they think you should not thread on as a foreigner
and that´s that. "Ame o ou deixa o." "Feche o bico e nem quero resmungos." Common Brazilian expressions...

robal

GuestPoster204

robal wrote:
Texanbrazil wrote:

Really???
RIP James.


Brazilians are very "territorial." They piss on areas they think you should not thread on as a foreigner
and that´s that. "Ame o ou deixa o." "Feche o bico e nem quero resmungos." Common Brazilian expressions...

robal


Two Types of Politicians, 1.Those That are Crooks and 2.Those Who Will become Crooks....
It's Passion People. ...I stay clear unless invited....

GuestPoster204

Alascana wrote:
robal wrote:
Texanbrazil wrote:

Really???
RIP James.


Brazilians are very "territorial." They piss on areas they think you should not thread on as a foreigner
and that´s that. "Ame o ou deixa o." "Feche o bico e nem quero resmungos." Common Brazilian expressions...

robal


Two Types of Politicians, 1.Those That are Crooks and 2.Those Who Will become Crooks....
It's Passion People. ...I stay clear unless invited....


I like your new picture there! Is that a prelude to your new film "The Alaskan Gigolo?" :D

GuestPoster204

robal wrote:
Alascana wrote:
robal wrote:


Brazilians are very "territorial." They piss on areas they think you should not thread on as a foreigner
and that´s that. "Ame o ou deixa o." "Feche o bico e nem quero resmungos." Common Brazilian expressions...

robal


Two Types of Politicians, 1.Those That are Crooks and 2.Those Who Will become Crooks....
It's Passion People. ...I stay clear unless invited....


I like your new picture there! Is that a prelude to your new film "The Alaskan Gigolo?" :D


Let's just say, Change is Good.....reminds me a Dobbie Brothers song "What A Fool Believes"...lmbo

Texanbrazil

Doobie Brothers!!! Just dusted off some old CD's this weekend and played all day......while BBQ an drinking my grains.
The pic is a boat plane that took us fishing on the Amazon.
Gigolo in Alaska need thermal under ware...

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Doobie Brothers!!! Just dusted off some old CD's this weekend and played all day......while BBQ an drinking my grains.
The pic is a boat plane that took us fishing on the Amazon.
Gigolo in Alaska need thermal under ware...


Dust in Brasil sure you joke, I cooked up a bode leg this weekend, cleaned the silver skin off and cooked on the grill, rubbed down with sundried garlic, complete seasoning salt and stuffed the leg with garlic cloves to add insult to injury wrapped in foil with honey...lol....placed in oven for maybe a hour and donated to my freinds pool party...I was on my gigolo. ...I Wish...and She came through...Not. ..this is a Family Channel...lol

Invited Lula and Jair imagine that .....Politics....

Texanbrazil

Now I am hungry.  :offtopic:
Had Portuguese lesson yesterday, she brought up politics and I explained I am a guest here and rather not learn about politics. She was surprised.
Yep Marshall Tucker, Brooks & Dunn, Chicago, Kenny Chesney, George Straight and more, Paying for it with muito sol.
Still sell CD players in PY, now neighbors going to complain probably.

GuestPoster204

Alascana wrote:
robal wrote:
Alascana wrote:


Two Types of Politicians, 1.Those That are Crooks and 2.Those Who Will become Crooks....
It's Passion People. ...I stay clear unless invited....


I like your new picture there! Is that a prelude to your new film "The Alaskan Gigolo?" :D


Let's just say, Change is Good.....reminds me a Dobbie Brothers song "What A Fool Believes"...lmbo


I like that song too. I have 2 CDs (now of course digital on MP3) with 33 songs. The same beat would be Takin´It To The Streets, Minute by minute and Real Love. I like Listen To The Music and Long Train Runnin´. I used to sing a lot You Belong To Me with my guitar when I was in love. So the story goes.

GuestPoster204

Alascana wrote:
Texanbrazil wrote:

Doobie Brothers!!! Just dusted off some old CD's this weekend and played all day......while BBQ an drinking my grains.
The pic is a boat plane that took us fishing on the Amazon.
Gigolo in Alaska need thermal under ware...


Dust in Brasil sure you joke, I cooked up a bode leg this weekend, cleaned the silver skin off and cooked on the grill, rubbed down with sundried garlic, complete seasoning salt and stuffed the leg with garlic cloves to add insult to injury wrapped in foil with honey...lol....placed in oven for maybe a hour and donated to my freinds pool party...I was on my gigolo. ...I Wish...and She came through...Not. ..this is a Family Channel...lol

Invited Lula and Jair imagine that .....Politics....


Lula and Jair only eat skirted "filet mignon." :D No goat legs...ha ha

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Now I am hungry.  :offtopic:
Had Portuguese lesson yesterday, she brought up politics and I explained I am a guest here and rather not learn about politics. She was surprised.
Yep Marshall Tucker, Brooks & Dunn, Chicago, Kenny Chesney, George Straight and more, Paying for it with muito sol.
Still sell CD players in PY, now neighbors going to complain probably.


Your music are very good on Sundays especially when your neighbors are taking a nap... :D

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Doobie Brothers!!! Just dusted off some old CD's this weekend and played all day......while BBQ an drinking my grains.
The pic is a boat plane that took us fishing on the Amazon.
Gigolo in Alaska need thermal under ware...


Yeah he needs TupperWare badly. BBQ? Sure... I was doing it myself! :D

Texanbrazil

Oh don't get me started on neighbor sunday.....they party on quarta feira e sabado, so turn about is fair play on domingo

GuestPoster204

Play some Tex-Mex music accompanied with
some spicy chicken or beef fajitas for a change. Guacamole,  cilantro or, salsa with it
would remind you of your home state.

Texanbrazil

Know me too well "SIR" robal...
quarta feira was prep day. Have all the seasoning from last trip. So fajita seasonings of the meat. Have corn tacos, for grill with the Brats and bife while waiting on slow cooker.
Asas do frango in canola e sesame oil to grill then some spicy sriracha wing sauce waiting to toss the wings.
BH has become a fan of fajita seasoning on all meats. As I say to her and others "think outside the BR box".  No need to use all sodium.
And always the debate as to "hand me a lemon" and I get a lime!!! Come on folks
With Juan Gabriel and Santana. Ey chiwawa

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Know me too well "SIR" robal...
quarta feira was prep day. Have all the seasoning from last trip. So fajita seasonings of the meat. Have corn tacos, for grill with the Brats and bife while waiting on slow cooker.
Asas do frango in canola e sesame oil to grill then some spicy sriracha wing sauce waiting to toss the wings.
BH has become a fan of fajita seasoning on all meats. As I say to her and others "think outside the BR box".  No need to use all sodium.
And always the debate as to "hand me a lemon" and I get a lime!!! Come on folks
With Juan Gabriel and Santana. Ey chiwawa


Esta louco amigo! I´m having fun and I´m getting hungry now.Getting crazy myself on the fajitas. Maybe I should eat out... There´s a Mexican restaurant nearby but not too good.

Texanbrazil

Yeah there are a couple here and not the best. Doritos and hamburger meat.......
My key board needs cleaning.........

GuestPoster204

Texanbrazil wrote:

Yeah there re a couple here and not the best. Doritos and hamburger meat.......


I noticed they lack the necessary ingredients like the chile powder. They don´t know how to make the genuine salsa. Their fajita seasoning is strange.

I made one the last time I went home to CA. I just went to Walmart and picked the already chopped ingredients like Jalapeño peppers, cilantro, guacamole, and salsa. The tortilla flour was already ready in a bag. I picked up the sirloin and the fajita seasoning and I was ready in an hour. A real food fix.

CaninBrazil

I am Canadian and have also my Brazilian citizenship through naturalization. I voted in Canada last elections by mail. You have to make sure that you respect the time lines.

As a naturalised Brazilian I am very interested in Brazilian politics and I will certainly vote in the net elections. I have my electoral voting card already and have had my fingerprints done to make sure the vote is counted right and that he process goes smoothly.

GuestPoster204

CaninBrazil wrote:

I am Canadian and have also my Brazilian citizenship through naturalization. I voted in Canada last elections by mail. You have to make sure that you respect the time lines.

As a naturalised Brazilian I am very interested in Brazilian politics and I will certainly vote in the net elections. I have my electoral voting card already and have had my fingerprints done to make sure the vote is counted right and that he process goes smoothly.


Brazilian citizens if they happen to be traveling during election times should justify why they can´t participate in that particular election by filling up a form. If abroad, they should go to the nearest
Brazilian embassy.

robal

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