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William Greenlee

I am 59 and have met a 30 year old school teacher who has a child with c/palsy. I too have a Son with c/palsy. I have had my Son by myself for 18 years. I decided I would open to possible marriage but I am only interested in a Filipino. So we met. We do Video Talk/Text/Phone everyday. I have met her Dad her Mom. She is a Simple Type Woman that is what I want. She is a Christian. No smoke. No Drink. Like me. She will leave her Son with her Mom and Dad there. That was there decision before we met. She said when she comes to America she will work. But will send half her earnings to her Mom and Dad for her Son. Which is Good. I understand. I agree. Her Son cannot travel presently. Us having this type situation is definitely a bonding agent. The Pain. The Father on her side. No where to be seen. I will work my whole life. But I do not chase the wind anymore. I rent a Simple House in the South. Plenty of all Basic Needs. She says that is what she is Simple. Her house there is in very bad shape. Her and Siblings building a small block house to be completed by end of year. Wants no money from me for this. Has asked for nothing. We have left no stone unturned in discussions about life. Nothing. And we continue. We are BF/GF. She has told me many times she loves me. I have told her the same. Her Heart is what I love the most but she is attractive as well. I will come there Marry her bring her back to US. Maybe in one year I will come. She is considered working poor I guess. But not in heart or spirit. I too am not a wealthy man. I have been very frank and honest about my life/future. I am in Good Health. She too. Who knows our time on Earth. I am Cancer. She is Pisces. So. What are Danger Signs I should be aware of. If any. Things I have missed. Am I a Stupid Man or is all this a possibility. Her material stuff is very little as well as I. Mine as well. We have known each other 2 months. No marriage for a year. Just water the seeds. Here in the US when I talk of this 60 percent frowns/40 percent sounds good. Someone out there help me find my way. I am looking for the real thing. It may be here. But. How many men have said that. Right. Help..

Sumomaster2004

Looks like you found one of the gems. Going well so far. Good Luck .

GuestPoster170

have you met her already in person or only through video ?

manwonder

Yup best of luck...If thats what your heart desires.
You did mention that both of you intend to work once back in the US & I am not sure of the negatives that may arise (just brainstorming).
again omo.

bigpearl

geolefrench wrote:

have you met her already in person or only through video ?


We assume given what William said in the OP, has met his future bride as well as the outlaws which means he has visited the Philippines at least once, possibly more visits. Only William can answer that and if not? Only streaming? Fools rush in.

I see a regular occurrence here where a Filipino family member foists an encumbrance or situation on other family members for their own gain,,,,,,, sometimes filtering down to those that do the hard yards.
I would ask William if he is prepared to offer his child up to a family member or foster care so he can move on with his desires and not necessarily his interests in the child,,,,,,,, Quid pro quo etc.

Saying all this if it's only 2 months? Travel restrictions? Not physically meeting?  I would offer up as only an/my opinion to wait until you can/will taste the flavours of the Philippines and the ups and downs of where you are heading.
I met my better half online 9 years ago, almost a year later we met, the foibles at times are very distinct and western culture honestly plays no role in the day to day mentality of a Filipino living here,,,,,,,,, 90% of the time. Love or hate that's how it is, 2 different cultures. My better half lived in Australia for over 5 years, worked, integrated and enjoyed,,,,,,,,, The Filipino mentality (god love most of it, never left)

Good luck with your new lady and all it will bring.

OMO

Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

William Greenlee wrote:

I am 59 and have met a 30 year old school teacher

We have known each other 2 months. No marriage for a year.


(1) How did you meet her?

(2) Why are you only interested in a Filipina?

(3) Advice: A Filipina who leaves home and children behind will eventually want to return to the  Philippines  (I speak from experience). Her children will always come before you (I speak from experience). Then if you both come/return to the Philippines who will care for your son?

(4) Advice: With Palsy in both of your back grounds, do consider birth control. Not very common among Filipina women.

(5) Advice: With the hope of her having a long working career, you probably will go through several stretches of time which she will be unemployed, maybe a year or longer. So when she sends half her check to the Philippines, bank the other half for a rainy day.

(6) Advice: It's best to understand that you should be the sole financial support of and your wife in the US.

jhondder

to not get marry !!!!no need to buy the cow for a glass of milk , you can make first fiancée visa
Filippina women in the philippines not the same when you bring her to USA her eyes will open,,,,,

manwonder

jhondder wrote:

to not get marry !!!!no need to buy the cow for a glass of milk , you can make first fiancée visa
Filippina women in the philippines not the same when you bring her to USA her eyes will open,,,,,


So will the eyes of many a deprived younger middle aged men whom may roam around looking for easy targets to charm...especially petite foreign looking / blurr young woman that are easy/cheap to please & then inturn look forward for some form of return.
Sorry...I'm not trying to look down or be rude about anyone but this is quite a rampant happening in certain developed countries/cities.
Again omho

mugtech

Realize that before Covid it was taking more than 12 months for a wife to get a spousal visa to come to the USA., now who knows.  Will mean you will be spending at least a year in the USA by yourself waiting for her to arrive.  Your planning to never retire while she sends half her earnings to support the in-laws who are your age means you best enjoy your home life for not much else will be happening.

Enzyte Bob

manwonder wrote:

Sorry...I'm not trying to look down or be rude about anyone but this is quite a rampant happening in certain developed countries/cities.
Again omho


I didn't want to go down this path, but I can't help myself.

Remember "No neck Ed? from 90 day fiance' show on TV. Probable still on You Tube.

pnwcyclist

Enzyte Bob wrote:
manwonder wrote:

Sorry...I'm not trying to look down or be rude about anyone but this is quite a rampant happening in certain developed countries/cities.
Again omho


I didn't want to go down this path, but I can't help myself.

Remember "No neck Ed? from 90 day fiance' show on TV. Probable still on You Tube.


Ha ha ha that gave me a big laugh.

Welcome William. Have you actually been to the Philippines? It sounds like it but not clear if you have, or the meetings were just online.

There's a lot in this story that concerns me, but it is your life and happiness. I'll just say that you absolutely have to come over to visit/meet in person before getting involved emotionally and financially because it's easy to hide things online. Many FIlipinas are actually married when they go "hunting".. and there is no divorce. Or they have a BF. Or a temper. It's like rolling the dice.

I also have concerns about a woman who would leave a child behind, especially a special needs child. I can tell you my GF would never leave her son behind.   I also second the opinion that with that age gap, when she gets to the US, she will be a hot commodity, hit on constantly, and you may lose her if there isn't a real strong bond. It happens a lot. Mainly you just really need to be careful.

Fil-Am Mom

The Good

It's good that you've found a woman with whom you bonded. (My sister has a child with mild CP. It can be hard at times. Her husband is a stay-at-home dad.)  And also attractive, a Filipino (which you mentioned that you wanted), didn't ask you for money,  doesn't have bad habits, simple and emotionally mature. I think if you treat her right, she will do the same to you. And hopefully the two of you will live happily ever after.

But . . .

The Bad

You might have to wait for a few years before you can bring her to the states. First, there's the pandemic issue. Second, the economy is down. She might have a hard time finding a job there. Perhaps wait until things are under control and the economy has improved before you bring her to the states. But because of the long wait, your connection with her could wane over time due to the long distance.

If your connection is still strong after the long wait and she has all the paperwork and visa ready, you will need to save up for her transition to the states. When she gets there, she might not find a job for a few months, but would still need to send money / support for her child back home. You might want to add her to your health insurance policy. You need to take these into account.

Since she will be separated from her child, she will get sad and depressed, which is normal. But it is possible she could fall into clinical depression. Either that or she will  go into hyper mode and work her fingers to the bone to support her child, whether her child is in the Philippines or already in the states (it costs a lot to raise a child with special needs here in the Philippines, and more so in the US). Whether it's due to depression or working too hard or both, she might not give you the attention you might expect from a wife.

Or she might just want to go back home to the Philippines. A mother's bond (whatever her nationality) with her child will always be stronger than her bond with her husband. Other reasons for going back home: She will experience racial discrimination in the states. She might resent being stereotyped as a gold digger.

Worse possible outcomes . . .

The Ugly

You have known her for only 2 months. Who knows if she's chatting with other men. She is an attractive and educated Filipino. Her biggest turn off though might be her having a child with special needs which would imply extra costs for her lover or would-be husband. But if she finds one in a better financial situation than you, and accept her situation, she might prefer him. Worse would be that she could also do that while she is already in the states.

In a few years, you will be a senior citizen. But she will still be at the prime of her life. If she finds someone her age, she will not be as perceived as a gold digger than if she were with you, even if he has more money.

If she files for divorce, she might demand alimony or a claim on what the two of you have worked so hard for.

Advice

Get to know her more before you get too emotionally attached to her. Get to know her family. Do her siblings have a job? Is she married to her child's father?
Visit the Philippines.  Be open minded.

Just my 2 cents.

manwonder

I see that it still remains more or less (60%) not in favour vs (40%) in favour....so you decide whats best for you.
Again omo : This 'game' many retirees play of a much older man being with a younger woman (30yr gap) is only made possible because of the obvious benefits in such a relationship (lets leave love aside for now...it can be cultivated over time)
For her the benefits of being with you in terms of her own security/financial benefit/respect for her family name/ and she becomes much more confident & doesn't need to worry about where the next sack of rice is coming from nor if the utilities bills are being paid on time.
For him (**in the philippines) NO worries of competition from younger well heeled men. In fact its quite the opposite here...she will get overly jealous if the old geezer is seen laughing/joking with another young local as she feels threatened. 
Both inturn are very happy/contented here normally (as long as HIS financial muscle remains intact) & I for one would never want to get married ...& leave open the option for seperation from the relationship if one party feels that they are being short changed.
Again omho

Fil-Am Mom

One more thing I'd like to add: Your Filipino girlfriend will need permission from her child's father for her to be allowed to bring her child to the states. If the father refuses, she will have to go to court or wait until the father dies.

William Greenlee

Hello.

Thanks for your statement. I am going to reply to all comments but will take time. So. Thanks for this one. Yes. Maybe I have.

William Greenlee

Hello.

Thanks for your comment. I am no dummy I assure you. I said I would never re marry due to such pain and heartache. Thus the 18 year. For me. Wait. To even look. Again. We met on Filipinocupid.com/I had talked to over 100 girls before her. She is poor. In riches of man. But she comes from a Family who works the fields/etc. I too. Am not rich. But I have made plenty in the past but all gone within one year of divorce. I decided 18 years ago. Actually a reflex. Former 82nd ABN INF Paratrooper. Combat. To just Love my Son and Protect him. If I have riches he will be  beside me. Besides I have had all that and I assure you it is not what you think. As I used to tell my Friends. How many Rib Eyes can you eat a day. Right. As Biden says, "Come on, Man". Also for her difficult growing up poor. Work to help family. Like they used to have to do in America back in time. We talk on Whatsapp probably a 2-3 hours a day total. Messages/Video/Etc. I am leaving NO STONE unturned in questions. I have always been self employed except for Paratrooper time. Three years of that. So I am a decent judge of people. And I understand here. Like my conversations are not what is your Favorite Color/Pop Band/Etc. They are direct/probing/honest/etc. I rent my house. I will never own a house again. I have NO treasure for any women here where I sleep. Just me and my son/living life. She is mature for her age. Due to life experience. Her Son cannot travel. He is much more Challenged than my Son. She has not asked for Money and besides I would not give if she did. She understands the Pain and I too also understand. She wants to teach or whatever she can do. She has a Bachelors. Employed. And close to Masters. When we met we did not know about each others Son. Only after a week or so. She has answered every question willingly. I as well. She says she will work and send money back to her Mom and Dad to help with her Son. Every time she is Paid. I do not have any money to send to anyone. I have my plate full. Of course I would if I had it. The Father of her child has nothing to do. No contact. She has relatives in USA and could come here anytime I guess. She has a Visa because she had planned on possibly going to Tawain to work. But did not. Before we met. She says she will see her Son through video every day. She says she will go back and visit her son every three to four years. If conditions change and he can travel one day why can't he live here. He can as far as I am concerned. She has a Heart like mine. We have discussed the age difference. I know I will leave Earth before she does. I am in Good Shape but age is there. She says She Loves Me and will always take care of me. I too of her. I am a Soldier of Love. Like in Sade video. Waiting for the Fool to come around on the other side. Maybe it is her. Maybe Real Love can still happen. I will let everyone know as I go along. We decided when we Marry. About one year from now. We are going to start a Youtube Channel called. "Jungle Girl & The Cave Man". All about us. Our lives. Our challenges. Our love. Stay tuned. Maybe one day. Maybe not. We will see. The Lord's Hand has been in my life for a Long Time. I have the proof. Raise the Hair on the back of your neck stuff. Real. Not Crazy Preacher stuff. Maybe the Lord is at work. Maybe not. We will see. I know what you are thinking. Poor guy. Crazy fool. And let me say also. I have Dated some of the Most Beautiful girls you can find. No problem doing that. Pre 18 years though. She is pretty. Mostly all Filipina chicks are cute. But this Time Brother I am looking at the HEART. And evidence of that Organ displayed in Life. I think I have found it. Later Brothers and Thanks..

moonunit0103

IF YOU HAVE NOT MET IN PERSON, YOU ARE GLORIFIED PENPALS!!! NEVER SEND MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NEVER MET IN PERSON.

When I was on FC 2 months before my first trip, I used filters,bachelor degree,  nurses or teachers, mainly for their English fluency. 

I have seen Expats who married women who turned out to have Narcissism, BPD, Bipolar, or Sociopathy, who video-chatted the guy twice a day for years.  Video-chatting, without day to day 24/7 face to face attention, skews things and messes with your head. For that reason, I only texted and swapped photos before meeting in person so I would not become emotionally involved.

Here is a YT link of a guy who lost everything he owned to a scammer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBhoc1nZJGE&t=5s

There are many more guys who got screwed over by savage Filipinas.

And, then there are some that are the real deal. Your mileage may vary.....

And, by the way, I am 62, wife is almost 33, and things are wonderful.  Couldn't ask for any better.  Age gap is not a problem for us.

Enzyte Bob

William Greenlee wrote:

Hello.

<Snip> Thanks for your comment. I am no dummy I assure you. 

<Snip>We met on Filipinocupid.com/

<Snip>I had talked to over 100 girls before her.


Good Grief, that's all I have to know.

William over the years I've heard your story on this group over and over, same story, but different posters.

Final results of those  who posted the same story, they are never heard from again before reaching the final chapter.

Why? They finally got some common sense or they were taken for a big fool and were too ashamed to admit it.

It had worked out for some, good luck.

mugtech

Because your future wife has family in the USA it does not mean she can come to the USA any time she wants.  The fact that she had a visa to travel to Taiwan for work means nothing in the USA.  You need to spend some weeks with her in the Philippines to get a good reading of her and the situation.  Sounds like you do not have the money to do this properly.

William Greenlee

Hello My Friends of the World,

For Me: No. I have not met her in person. We do Video on Skype. I talk sometimes through the talk icon.  Whenever I want she answers in writing. Etc. We do all we can. Now is the watering period for the seeds of Love. This is what I told her back a while ago. If the weeds kill it/the rain washes it away. Good. Thank you Lord. But if it grows and the roots go down into solid grown. Good. Pour the water. Pray. And watch/listen/observe. I will meet her in10 months or one year from now. I will go there. Stay a week with the intentions of bringing her back. If when I am there I will know for sure and she will too. I understand what you are saying. I have started the process of checking myself. Discussions with Friends/Family. Most of my Family I never see busy with Son. Mom And Dad crossed over. It's kinda funny. Most guys say if you love her go for it with reality. Most girls do not like. So. This I can tell all my New Friends on here. I send you Love from Alabama. Do not hold back. Bring it. As I go read all my responses. So you will begin to know me. My Facebook I turned off 8 or 9 years ago. I really am not into Social Media stuff. Not against it. I enjoy the availability of it. For sure. I am doing this while I feed my Son. I feed him every bite. To me. I tell people. Facebook is 33 percent reality/33 percent fantasy/33 percent bull shit/one percent who knows. My Birthdate on that says 1934. haha. I told people I am a Vampire. Date not real. Everything else. Facts. I still cannot get in. Everybody can but me. Go look. William Greenlee. I am the one in the Shiny Suit wearing Sunglasses with the Blonde. That was Aerial. I called her Aerial from under the Sea. haha. Picture 15 years old. So. That's me. Eventually when I am Married we will share one.  I will be involved but it is not my thing. Now my hair more of a military cut. Clean cut. I need to lose a few pounds. I am a runner. I started that long before I met my soon to be wife. If the seeds grow as stated. She will be my Wife.. Love to all.

William Greenlee

Hello.

For me: Yes I work. What is work?? I work from when I arise until I fall out. Right. I am self employed. There was a time when I was going to build a sub division of houses plus many other things. That time has passed. I am not interested in any of that. You go do it. Whomever "you" is. Not directed to you. This is all I am interested in. Eat/Sleep/Not sleep under a bridge or tent/Be in a house to keep all my junk as Johnny Cash says in video "Hurt"/Love my Son/Meet his needs/Collect Rare 45's Music to send to my Friends in the UK and elsewhere of course for greenback/Heat in Winter/AC in Summer-Hot in Alabama/Van + Truck keep in good condition. Anything else a bonus. So. For many years I think about Love. With reality. Recently in past year started looking. Love to All. (She has heard all this more than once).

William Greenlee

Hello:

For me. Wow!! Thanks for your message. It lends me encouragement with reality. I have nothing of value really a woman would want to steal. I just live a Simple Humble life. Thanks for link. I will listen in future. This girl is a School Teacher. All posted on her Facebook. Everything. She lives in a very very very humble house. She showed me on video. She said she really did not want to. But wanted to be honest. I have told her with honesty the water can grow the seeds. Honesty both ways. Brutal truth can be cleansing. Right. She has two Facebook. One personal. One business. When I marry her still will be a year away maybe a little less. Not sure. She has Never asked for money. I cannot send money to anyone. Someone can send me money though. haha. When we marry. We will start a Youtube Channel to share everything. A wonderful name of the Channel I cannot share. But so so good. I and her came up with. The house I live in belongs to my Lawyer. Married. Her Husband. District Attorney. I rent. Humble house built in 1958. But really built better than New Homes. I have been around awhile. I have dated them all. But her Heart I have never heard or seen. I am speaking Reality Based. I am not looking for The Realtor of the Year. Heart. That is all. Everything else good will follow. Naturally. Love to All..(I am a Big Music Guy my whole life. She does not know who the Group KISS is) I thought everybody knew that..

William Greenlee

Hello to my Friends of the World :

For me.

First let me say this. This is only the second day I have started responding to comments. Today I will tell her to look here for herself and read and watch. When and if she wants. Everything she sees her she has heard from me before. My Son. I will NEVER leave my Son. NEVER. One day someone will say, "Look at William Greenlee he cannot move. Then I will leave". He is in Me Forever More. I Breathe My Son. She already knows this. Old news to her. As a Matter of fact he will have bed in our room to sleep. Two Beds. Two full size. One for him. One for us. Non negotiable. My friends when you sleep with a Little Boy who cannot Speak/Cannot walk/Whom you feed every bite/Who has 28 Screws in his back. 12 years ago/A boy who will be Escorted by Angels from Earth one day/My friends it remolds and reforms your Heart. I am looking for a Similar Heart. I think it has been put before me. The Heart of a Girl thousands of miles away. Thousands. The Daughter of a Poultry Farmer. The Oldest Daughter. And much more which is private. Also I must say. My ex wife is the Mother of My Son and daughter. She has been remarried for eight years. Her and I talk and are friends. She is always welcome to get/see/take her Son anywhere. I do not Hate. I choose love. But she lives and does what she can. I cannot be responsible for anyone but me. We talk a few times a year or as needed. She has her own life. Good for her. Right. I wish them the best. Love to All..

moonunit0103

You, sir, are infactuated with your Video Pen Pal.  And the effects are similar to a drug high, according to research.

Listen to what these guys are saying.

bigpearl

Well moonunit, that happens, infatuation comes in many forms. Love, lust, money, drugs, gambling.
Though we all wish the OP very well in his future perhaps he should see what some of the members are offering, after all the topic is "Advice on marriage" and created (asked) by William.
Some thoughts. Well mine.
Mail order bride?
Love or perceived love and reality, or simply lust?
Though difficult in your situation I would, as soon as possible come and meet this wonderful woman, her son and family, taste the flavours, get your hands dirty and not for one week but for a month or more, a small investment in your possible future.
I say this so you can learn more about the Filipino mind set and culture especially if you both intend to live in the States, the culture will come with your bride. Beautiful and perfect in one breath and the next mind boggling and I feel other members here would agree whether they live here or in their home country. Only my observation of 8 + years with a Filipino living in both countries.
You will be marrying the woman you love and her 30 years living in the Philippines will bring many foibles. Make yourself aware. My better half moved to Australia for over 5 years before we came back here, I well knew that I would be the backstop and guiding hand in the transition to a new country. Be 100% prepared to support your partner both emotionally and financially for the rest of your life. Simple things for us are not so easy in a new country nor will they be if you make the effort to come here.

Enough for now and honestly William I wish you the best but understand the bigger picture, don't get hurt, don't get burnt etc.

Cheers, Steve.

Fil-Am Mom

William Greenlee wrote:

Hello:

We will start a Youtube Channel to share everything. A wonderful name of the Channel I cannot share. But so so good. I and her came up with.


Your mean this from your previous post?:

William Greenlee wrote:

About one year from now. We are going to start a Youtube Channel called. "Jungle Girl & The Cave Man". All about us.

bigpearl

Sorry William, I will ad that now I live here the better half is the backstop,,,,,,, well some times.

Cheers, Steve.

bigpearl

Fil-Am Mom wrote:
William Greenlee wrote:

Hello:

We will start a Youtube Channel to share everything. A wonderful name of the Channel I cannot share. But so so good. I and her came up with.


Your mean this from your previous post?:

William Greenlee wrote:

About one year from now. We are going to start a Youtube Channel called. "Jungle Girl & The Cave Man". All about us.



LOL.

Cheers, Steve.

Enzyte Bob

bigpearl wrote:
Fil-Am Mom wrote:
William Greenlee wrote:

Hello:

We will start a Youtube Channel to share everything. A wonderful name of the Channel I cannot share. But so so good. I and her came up with.


Your mean this from your previous post?:

William Greenlee wrote:

About one year from now. We are going to start a Youtube Channel called. "Jungle Girl & The Cave Man". All about us.



LOL.

Cheers, Steve.


LOL . . .Dito

William: Todays Daydream . . . .Tomorrows  Nightmare.

manwonder

I've lived wif my partner for over 7yrs now which includes our 3yr stay together in/out of Singapore/Malaysia.
....I still will NOT get married & will leave the option of getting out of the relationship with all due respect/minimum hurt/loss for either party (I'll do my part & leave a fair share for her/kids upkeep) ...but I do still respect & love her company everyday & have seen her blossom into a much more confident/organised/disciplined lady.

Fil-Am Mom

William Greenlee wrote:

Here in the US when I talk of this 60 percent frowns/40 percent sounds good. Someone out there help me find my way. I am looking for the real thing. It may be here. But. How many men have said that. Right. Help..


To William,

You said when you talked to people in the US about whether to marry a certain Filipina, it was 60% frowns / 40% good. Then you asked for advice on this issue in this forum, which was responded to by members who are men (most of whom are American, like you) who have or have had a relationship / relationships with a Filipino / Filipina, the relationships of which either failed, or were successful, or both. And it was also responded to by a female Filipino-American. (BTW, I'm in my 50's. I was born and raised in the Philippines, lived in America for more than 10 years, married to an American, and came back to the Philippines.) With our responses, we probably tipped the scales even further to 80% frowns / 20% good.

But what use is our opinion when you have actually already decided to marry your Filipino girlfriend? What you could have asked in this forum instead was what you need to be able to go to the Philippines to meet her and how you can bring her to the US,

William Greenlee wrote:

First let me say this. This is only the second day I have started responding to comments. Today I will tell her to look here for herself and read and watch. When and if she wants.


This is what I think about this: It's like a head coach asked his assistant coaches and advisors for opinions on the other team. And then turns the info over to the other team.

Do what ever you want. It's your life.

Good luck on your youtube channel (I think "Cave Man and Jungle Girl" sounds better) and your future marriage.

This is my last post on this thread. I can't be your advisor anymore.

Cherryann01

Sorry to be blunt here but I think you are absolutely crazy making these long term plans with a woman you have never even met. You need to get yourself over to the Philippines and spend some quality time to get to know this woman first and you need to visit more than once before making any serious commitment to her. After covid of course.

Cherryann01

Just watched the video on the link you provided. All i can say is what an idiot. I never realised people could be so dumb. 4 years of contact via social media and not one trip to the Philippines before he started sending large sums of money. I find it hard to think that anybody could be that dumb.

coach53

William Greenlee wrote:

I am 59... . I have had my Son by myself for 18 years. .... She said when she comes to America she will work. .


Can't your son be moved to the Philippines?    If he can, I think much better you move there with your son because marriage failing is much lower when NOT moving to the richer country, and your wife will be more happy by she don't need to leave her son. IF she will not be more happy by that, then she is NOT a good woman ..  I  mean if she can get improved life for her son anyway as it can be if you move there.
You get close to retire age., It will cost much less to live in Phils than in USA...

You wrote in later coment you have been entrepreneaur.  There are many more GOOD opportunities in Phils than in USA/Europe for GOOD entrepreneaurs, not for them who start bars because they have been frequent bar CUSTOMER    :lol:
I suggest you do as I plan to do   = Move to Phils, marry and start a business there.  Then teach her to handle it so I can retire step by step so they can live of it after I'm dead.

William Greenlee wrote:

So we met. We do Video Talk/Text/Phone everyday. I have met her Dad her Mom..


Well. Videochat is much better than just texting, but isn't as real  meeting.   Two months is much to short for decide such finaly anyway.
I told my gf I believe I will want to marry her but meeting at same place at least six months before decide finaly.  I suggest you do similar concerning that too.

William Greenlee wrote:

I am Cancer. She is Pisces..


Some say I'm crazy, some agree with me    :)    when I include such when check who are POSSIBLE good suiting to marry each other.  I claim all three these factors have to suit to be a possible good match for BOTH.  (It can be good marriage for ONE anyway if the other sacrifice a lot.)   
/Zodiac.  Cancer - Pisces    Good chance.     
/Chinese birth year:    59 - 30.   I don't know how precice you have told her age so I can't say if possible good match.
/Sibbling position:   It's NOT about biological sibblings, it's about who growing up with living SIMILAR to sibblings.   This is scientific proven, although made in  "western" lifestyle, not living with cousins or aunts/uncles in child age :)  when growing up as often in SE Asia.   If you are youngest or middle,then you can suit with anyone, some less good with same as yourself.  But if you are eldest or only child you have to avoid other eldest or only child.   

NOTE!   Don't make a part of common Cancer personality make you make wrong decision    :)   
A Cancer friend of mine has wanted to move to SE Asia 30 years, but haven't dared to becausre many Cancer people are affraid of moving.  He has moved many times, but only within a few kilometers   :lol:
He haven't moved still, but now he say "Never a winter here again"  - as he has said many years before...  :)

mugtech

coach53 wrote:
William Greenlee wrote:

I am 59... . I have had my Son by myself for 18 years. .... She said when she comes to America she will work. .


Can't your son be moved to the Philippines?    If he can, I think much better you move there with your son because marriage failing is much lower when NOT moving to the richer country, and your wife will be more happy by she don't need to leave her son. IF she will not be more happy by that, then she is NOT a good woman ..  I  mean if she can get improved life for her son anyway as it can be if you move there.
You get close to retire age., It will cost much less to live in Phils than in USA...


He rents his house, claims he will be working forever.  The idea he could move to the Philippines and support a family of 4 including two special needs children is quite the stretch.

coach53

mugtech wrote:

He rents his house, claims he will be working forever.  The idea he could move to the Philippines and support a family of 4 including two special needs children is quite the stretch.


He said in an other than the start post, he has been entrepreneaur so I suppouse he has skill to earn some at Phils too. 
Much less money needed in Phils than in USA, specialy for caretakers.

Soonretired

even those who meet in person, met originally in person and have visited here many times over years before getting married are screwed when reality sets in who the woman really is and what the man expected and what he ended up with.
to have never met in person multiplies this screwed potential a million fold.
never send money to anyone,ever,unless its your utility company or landlord.
dont believe anything anyone says,ever.especially on social media.
save yourself from a world of regret and stay home and enjoy your life and your son and get involved in your community and socialize and forget about 'meeting someone' THEN you will meet someone when you are least expecting it.

dont be a fool..

bigpearl

Our OP has been quiet for a week or so, perhaps busy, perhaps contemplating. Given all that has been said by the OP and advice/suggestions from experienced members should be a wake up call to all, especially newbies considering a new country or partner without boots on the ground experience and only listening to the prospective partner and youtube videos?

Having a handicapped child is a loving burden and one the OP is well aware of, I wonder If the OP could find the funds to visit the Philippines, (when the borders open) the love of his life and her child with Cerebral Palsy, her family, Filipino culture, appreciation for the woman you love involves her life and family here in the Philippines and all that is part of her life, What you are about to commit to involves the whole 9 yards and deserves the correct investments. Please don't do yourself or your son the disservice of not following through correctly.

Good luck William, I'm sure we all wish you well but are only offering up scenarios that perhaps you didn't consider.
I too, like others met their better half online, for me? I was working here, 12 months overall, got to know the people and culture,,,,, that's a lie,,,,,, I'm still learning.
But that's my story and almost 9 years on we live back here now.

Cheers, Steve.

William Greenlee

Hello To All:

I am still here. All is well. I am reading and enjoying all the comments. Thanks. I will respond to every comment. But it will take time. Thanks everyone. Much Love To You All..

William Greenlee

Hello To My Friends Of The World :

For Me,

I Love this Guy. Enzyte Bob. (1) Through a Mutual Friend. I am Ex 82nd Airborne Infantry Combat Paratrooper. He is Married to a Fillipino 28 Years Younger. 10 Years No issues. (2) Do I really need to answer that question. My Brother. It is Self Evident. (3) First. I will leave my Son when all Evidence of Physical Life is gone in Me. She knows. She understands. She agrees. Second. Of Course we should all understand that your Child should come first. Right. But that could be in different forms to different people based on action on the ground. I'm sure we would agree that anyone who did not care and want to provide for their Child would be, "Let's just say misguided. I will refrain from Accurate Description." Third. She has said up front she will send money every month from her check to help her Son. My Brothers. My Son cannot Speak or Walk. Let us say my Son has a ten rating. Her Son a four. Much more difficult. Cannot travel/etc. Very Painful and Hard to deal with on the Human Heart. Long before we met. Her Family came up with their plan for his care. That plan belongs to them. I respect them and their plan. Fourth. Of course her Son comes before me. If I came before her Son I would not desire to see her Shadow. Fifth. She plans to go back as she can. For a few weeks or more. Conditions on the ground will dictate the outcome. I will not be going with her. We have understanding. Sixth. Your Medical recommendations are interesting. I wonder what Credentials you old. My Brother. Do you know the Pain of your Heart being Ripped/Stripped from our Sons conditions. Of course not. If you did you would not make such a Silly Statement. However. I understand you are using Common Sense. Right. Seventh. Again your Advice on Financial Moves. Interesting. We will look to Dave Ramsey on such matters with Prayer and Common Sense. Not to Enzyte Bob but I feel you. Eighth. HaHa. You are funny. I love you. So. She should not work. My Dear Friend. Everybody works in my house. My Mother had 5 Kids and worked every day of her life. She will work. She will contribute. She will build a future for us and herself. I will teach her all I know. Everyone works in my House. She agrees and understands. Thank you. Enzyte Bob. I love you Man. Please Brothers bring it to me. Let me say also. I will make her my wife. When that happens we will have a Year and a half under our belt. Believe me I have been around a while and dated many many Females. A Heart like this I have not seen. The Oldest Daughter of a Poultry Farmer. With strong Principles of Life and a Believer in The Lord Almighty. You know. The One who parted the Red Sea. When I am gone she will be Stronger. Smarter. A Better Person. She is  and is going to Bring True Realistic Joy to my Being. We are Approaching this with Eyes Wide Open. Let's Face it. Sometimes in Life it can Really Happen. It is my Total Sense that We are about to experience what we all want. {True Love Based On The Condition Of The Two Hearts}. Plus more. So. I will continue to answer all comments as I have time. Love To You All.

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