Ex-PR Applying for EP

Last activity 08 October 2022 by Ka Jin Chia

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bryantlc93Member13 February 2022 07:56:19

Hi everyone, I'm currently facing issues with my Employment Pass application and I hope to receive some feedback or advise as to the possibility of being able to continue working in Singapore based on the fact laid below:

1. Father was a PR when I was born in Singapore, not considered a citizen.
2. 2 months after we've moved back to Malaysia for good.
3. Father came back to SG the next year attempting to renew his PR and succeeded, including my mum's and mine dependent PR.
4. The said PRs was considered lost as we do not hold valid re-entry permit when the PRs expired, I was six years old.
5. Throughout our lives my parents do not know that I held PR so neither did I as I was very young.
6. Came into Singapore as an EP holder 2 years ago.
7. After applying for First Gen PR, was told that I in fact was a PR holder, application was rejected after some time.

Now that I'm attempting to switch employment, my EP application is being put on hold pending information from other agencies since 16/11/2021. As my parents were unaware and ignorant of the fact that I held PR before, is there still a possibility that I'll be able to work in Singapore? Any action that I can take to expedite the process?

beppiGermany - Singapore Expert13 February 2022 08:18:48

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As a second generation PR, you have an obligation for military service (assuming you are male, which your user name indicates).
In such a case, as far as I know, the PR does not expire until you fulfil your obligations.
That will complicate things and, most likely, you will not be allowed to work in Singapore before you did your military service.
Not knowing about it does not help. You better contact the relevant government authorities immediately.

bryantlc93Member26 May 2022 06:16:56

@beppi Hi beppi, sorry that I bring this up again, but I just want to further clarify. I understand that even with the expiry of REP, the PR still remains so long as I do not leave Singapore, but once I'm outside of Singapore without a valid REP, according to ICA my PR should have been considered lost correct? If that's the case, was I liable for NS when I ceased to be PR since the age of 6?

beppiGermany - Singapore Expert26 May 2022 08:01:57

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Bryant: If you were outside of Singapore at any time (since you were 6), then your PR is lost.

If you were second generation PR, then you were liable for NS. That, too, vanished with the loss of your PR.

But, since the government has a long memory and is pretty vindictive in this respect, you might never get a residence visa (and definitely not a PR) for Singapore again.

bryantlc93Member26 May 2022 08:08:04

@beppi Thank you for your response, I understand that me getting an EP may be much more difficult than if it were a clean slate. It is too bad that I'm being punished for my parents' negligence on 2nd generation PR matters. May I just ask another question regarding PR since it seems you're well informed, if my father applied for my PR when I was a newborn in Singapore but never follow through with the collection of REP, am I still considered a PR then?

Ka Jin ChiaNew member07 October 2022 07:03:50

@bryantlc93

Hi Bryan, may I know how is your situation lately? Have you successful became a PR? How is your employment pass status? I'm facing very similar problem, also an ex-PR dependent when I was young and had it cancelled at the age of 12. My parents weren't aware of this and we only realize this recently when I try to apply for employment pass. Thank you.

bryantlc93Member07 October 2022 09:36:57

@Ka Jin Chia I no longer have any issue with CMPB and I'm currently waiting/hoping for the EP approval, it has been pending since a month ago. The processing time would take longer than most as MOM need to additional vet with ICA and possibly CMPB.

By canceling do you mean renounce? Or expiry of REP.

Ka Jin ChiaNew member07 October 2022 10:04:52

@bryantlc93

My father renounced his PR when I was 12 year old and returned his identity card (as he had no intention continue working in Singapore). And by doing that, my dependent PR was also terminated. Now I wanted to work in Singapore but been waiting for my employment pass for two weeks (still pending). I hope my application doesn't get rejected.

bryantlc93Member07 October 2022 14:13:16

@Ka Jin Chia Your situation may be a little more favourable than mine as your father did the proper procedure to renounce while mine did not.

Please update me if and when you've gotten your EP as we're on the same boat.

Ka Jin ChiaNew member08 October 2022 00:43:38

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@bryantlc93

Yes thank you very much for the info. All the best to your application.

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